Mini Normal 2309 - Neighborhood PT

[bob3141]

dann flower being a cop makes it very likely kim is scum. they have a gun

i cant see town having more gun roles with 2 vigs and cop. even if civil is faking thats still 2 false positives and one false inno in the game

[Hu Tao]

So Kim is gunned? Then yeah we vote them today. I'll try to do it in a way that's not to obvious you have a guilty though.

[Hu Tao]

Let's talk about who is 3rd scum in the meantime since I'll have a shot tonight.

[Hu Tao]

Thoughts on naerys? They seemed town to me but I'm confused why they didn't die. But would 4 town pr make sense? Even though I guess she was mostly negative utility.

[Hu Tao]

BB is HARD defending Kim. Could be partner

[bob3141]

yep they also sat in the second bussing position e-3

saw this in my last completed game. i repped in day 3 and greeting had been executed and there partners dragon and furt were at e-3 and e-2. With it happening a day before deadline


sp molla has good partner equity with kim and greeting/looker

[Hu Tao]

Worst case scenario I shoot Kim tonight. What are your thoughts on claiming and having naerys JK you tonight?

[Hu Tao]

Actually we should wait for Kim to speak regardless. Besides vig and scum what other roles can have a gun?

[bob3141]

allot of roles can have guns but disloyal doc rules out a fair few as does dann flipping cop

[bob3141]

In Normal games on mafiascum.net, a Gunsmith gets guilties on all Mafia (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, PT Cops, Vengefuls, Detectives, Neapolitans, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers.

thats teh rar info

doct rules out rolecop,

vig rules out vig, vengful

cop rules out another cop or gunsmith. also the neap as it sits on same ground

[bob3141]

thats leaves vannilla cop, pt cop, dect and back up

as rough rule town has 3.5 medium pr to scum 0.5

a cop is worth 2-3 ungated and one shot novice cop with miller is prob 1

[bob3141]

all the gated role make it unlikely that town would have a vannilla cop

[bob3141]

scum have a false inno vs me
and we know town has atleast 2 false guiltys.

adding more then even civil would make the role near worthless

[bob3141]

since the cop is one shot teh miller is more neutral than negatve utility. As miller usualy claim and dann only had one shot anyway.

roles-

odd nigth gunsmith 1/2
even vig 0.75-1
one shot cop 1

claims

bp miller. 0-0.5?
2 shot jk 0.5-1?

2.75-3.75


if town has any power left beyond civil. then its prob a follower/tracker types roll

[bob3141]

in prior game i played

full gunsmith
even cop
one-shot tracker
odd nights vig
informed miller

vs

scum even night rb
odd nights doc

so 2 flase guiltys and one false inno

[bob3141]

i think im going to have to claim.

ive got pc tunneling me last day. naerys is too rookie to read the thread right and nurse is in a gamblers logical falsy. plys scum kim. thats 4 there plus one more scum equal 5

[bob3141]

well we got kim but i had to claim the counter my wagon forming before i could get kim to claim. Also to avoid claiming my role first i had to let on that your were my neighbour.

they claimed rolestopper and they dont have guns.

[Hu Tao]

This game and last game is why its so frustrating being town

[Hu Tao]

Can't believe they all started voting you and thought I was scum after yesterday

[bob3141]

yep very frustrating.

[Hu Tao]

I wish you didn't claim neighbor with me. Cause now I could be night killed. Also I think naerys might jail me tonight. I have no faith in her anymore.

[Hu Tao]

Hopefully naerys is on you? I wish we had more time to plan for tomorrow in thread. I'm thinking of just shooting BB tonight. You?

[bob3141]

for some reason they were demanding a roleclaim from me first. which is just silly as im not a cop. So letting scum know your role allows them to fake claim better. They would of prob run me up to e-1 if i hadnt partial claimed lol

Even then happy if he was town was after my gating.

[bob3141]

Hopefully naerys is on you? I wish we had more time to plan for tomorrow in thread. I'm thinking of just shooting BB tonight. You?

i think its a decent shot. bbmola went after me and completly ignored the case against kim. Much in the same way kim was doing.

If they are town then they are prob going to be hindrance in elo.

[bob3141]

So at worst you get rid of misexecution