Alisae wrote: ↑ This is my setup and the notes about my setup. I will be co-modding with the worst.
Notable Game Rules:
It is in the rules that the mafia have a cop.
Daytalk is disabled for mafia. I am unsure on if I want to advertise this or not.
mafia backup mailman
mafia disloyal neighborizer
mafia Informed (backup)* cop traitor
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town 2 masons
town mailman
town traffic analyst
town Informed Neighbor A JOAT w/ Tracker, PT Cop, Traitor-Finder
town Informed Neighbor A Miller
4 VTs.
Traitor Information: They know that there is an informed neighbor miller in the game and their neighborhood is aware of your existence. Also, there are 2 masons.**
Neighbor A (JOAT + Miller) Information: There is a traitor in the game.
*the cop technically doesn't have to be backup. Backup cop is funny when you announce the mafia has a cop but making it not backup means it can look for the miller. Idunno if I like regular cop or backup cop better. Right now I lean towards backup because like, yes, regular cop lets the traitor find miller, but miller is likely claiming and they don't really want to actually do that or act at all. They know who their mafia partners are so...
** idunno how having both neighbors informed of the traitor and telling the traitor that works while making both neighbors not know that they both know there is a traitor without them telling each other.
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setup bad didnt read /failretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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Town sided vibes will think on itretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Absolutely agree.
I know NRG likes to townside games so I brought this initial setup into review with that in mind. Wolves don’t have a lot going for them immediately and even have a traitor while village has a lot of ways to confirm other villagers and if the wrong wolf flips at the wrong time it could be disaster for wolves. It’s pretty swingy.
I think the first step would probably be applying gates onto the TA. Novice and Lazy are good modifiers that can go onto it.-
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The TA is probably the only role that is reasonably not being hanged so axing it is also something I’m considering. Either way I think that role is the first role to adjust here.-
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It’s probably also townsided based on the skill floor for wolves being quite high I think? These are not easy wolf roles to play.-
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My first reaction is to just sign2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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This is probably too town sided for me to want to pass it though
Every single false guilty from the traffic analyst is quickly resolved and possibly without even outing the PR, the traffic analyst itself will almost certainly be unlimmable, town might easily solve that the neighborizer is scum, etc
I can propose something if you don't have a change in mind but I think this is too strong for town2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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The first post is meant to be sigh btw2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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shootIn post 8, RadiantCowbells wrote: I can propose something if you don't have a change in mind but I think this is too strong for town-
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the ideas I had in my head was adjusting the TA but I am open to any suggestions-
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mafia backup mailman
mafia disloyal neighborizer
mafia Informed (backup)* cop traitor
vs
town 2 masons
town mailman
town traffic analyst
town Informed Neighbor A JOAT w/ Tracker, PT Cop, Traitor-Finder
town Informed Neighbor A Miller
4 VTs.
Traitor Information: They know that there is an informed neighbor miller in the game and their neighborhood is aware of your existence. Also, there are 2 masons.**
Neighbor A (JOAT + Miller) Information: There is a traitor in the game.
Here's a likely way this goes down:
2 masons, clear eachother blam. 2 clears.
Mailman - a little ambiguous could be mislim bait. sure.
town TA: this role gets massive value + never dies duirng the day. can clear the mislim pool of VTs easily. needs a gate if anything
informed neighbor joat(tracker pt cop traitor finder) - almost guaranteed to self clear essentially and get value for town, still could be a PR that gets lolkilled
informed neighbor miller: being able to hide your miller is p nice
immediate thoughts: no protectives is reasonable here, informing town of the traitor esp with no maf daytalk lopsides information in a way, masons + TA + joat push PoE too fast esp with a scumteam with 2 groupscum onlyretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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What happens if we remove the TA-
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I think fully cutting the ta is fine
Might lean a bit scum but it's reasonable2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Traitor is inherent swing2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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okay great ya that makes me feel better about the setup!-
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I'm curious what your proposition was though-
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it might work better-
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That but maybe give the joat one shot of something good2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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a 4th ability?In post 19, RadiantCowbells wrote: That but maybe give the joat one shot of something good
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unless I wanted to put like a cop or a roleblock shot on it I think the most stand out thing to me would be a follower?
Idunno, I think this setup being scumsided is ok?-
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o wait game rules say mafia has a cop.
giving that joat a cop shot is funny then-
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tho that probably doesn't work out in practice I think-
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wait no maybe.
miller perspective is interesting because if they're not sure they can try to solve the joat in hood
joat perspective is they're town, would they know if their miller hood partner is town or not? they both know that there is a traitor in the setup idunno I can't predict this right now
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