Datisi's University [Enchant notes PT]

[Datisi]

welcome, Enchant, to your notes pt.

please note:

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[Enchant]

burned out psycologists' child -

self-aligned

"man, i know my parents want me to also be a psychologist, and i don't want to disappoint them, but i'm just so tired! if only something were to happen that wasn't my fault..."

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welcome,

Enchant

! you are a

burned out psychologists' child

, aligned with

yourself

!

[night abilities]:

• all abilities that ever target you, other than expulsions, will fail.
  
• you know that one member of the professors' pets has an ability that will inform them of your win condition (but not of your abilities or identity), and that that ability costs 10 SPR points to use.
  
• you know that no player in the game has the following flavor name: social media manager
  
• during the weekend, target a player. assuming no interference with your action, that player will receive a message of your choosing. they will be aware the message came from another player in the game. you may only use this ability twice during the game.
  
• during the weekend, using this ability. assuming no interference with your action, the moderator will post an anonymous message of your choosing once the weekend ends. you may only use this ability twice during the game.
  
• you may not use both of those abilities during the same weekend.

you win once you are expelled. you lose if you are voted out, or if the game ends while you are alive.

if you are expelled, two players will be voted out the next week. if you are voted out, professors' pets will be able to expel one extra person that weekend.

the main thread is here. please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment,

and by answering the following question: during which game phase do players submit their time spent studying?

[Enchant]

Alright so.

1. I am Ascetic. Naturally i can't be investigated protected. Only killed. That's good.
2. "you know that one member of the professors' pets has an ability that will inform them of your win condition (but not of your abilities or identity), and that that ability costs 10 SPR points to use"

It really depends on wording. If i am expelled two players will be voted out. If i am voted out, they can expel additional player.

Are this is part of Win Condition or abilities?

@Mod

3. "you know that no player in the game has the following flavor name: social media manager"

It's my fake claim. But i am not sure if i should use it if i am need to townside hard.

4. My abilities are purely social as it should be for third party.

I can use it to "confirm" self (but i would suspect pure Mailmans even in normal), but actually i should search for support and allies. I am not evil neutral so town "will" help me... Right?
... Ha-ha we know they won't but worth a shot.

In theory, if i will be annoying enough, mafia can NK me simple to remove me out of play or keep me alive and i lose. Fairly... They really can't spare me just living around can't they? When mafia dies i need to look at wincondition.

[Datisi]

you win once you are expelled. you lose if you are voted out, or if the game ends while you are alive.

if you are expelled, two players will be voted out the next week. if you are voted out, professors' pets will be able to expel one extra person that weekend.

all of this is your win condition.

[Enchant]

I am not sure if i ever can side with mafia.
For example if game is 4 mafia 4 town and me. Can i just force no-lim and ask to be killed and then win? Or game will be ended? What if it's 3 mafia 4 town and me?

I don't expect to know answers until mafia dies but i think it would be too easy.

Siding as neutral is common mistake. I can't announce that i am Third Party which wins when die and then just start voting out scum... Because i naturally won't die from mafia out of spite. If town has vig though... But how i know this beforehand?


So my plans...

1. Post public message with explaination. Mafia already knows who i am most likely, so it would be better so town are also vigilant on mafia proactively trying to vote me out and having knowledge (and i actually can claim if wagoned and MAYBE just MAYBE not get voted but that's literally last resort).
My english suck so it will be obvious if i make big message. So i need to make some code (not crypto just like "Win: Death at Night.")
Need to clarify mafia ability, say that can't claim due lowering chance of win and that if vig exist, deal can be made.

It's long and "Safe" play which allows me to live longer from town ire potentially if i am inevitable will runned. If i live until almost mafia majority though, they gonna laugh at me.
... And let's be honest. Mafia can kill me and let town kill two players. Which could be either mafia or town. It's not really big drawback to them potentially.

Issue: someone may figure i am replacement because otherwise i sent this message at first night.

2. Claim investigative and call someone scum. So LAME it's good. If i actually hit scum, chances they are executed and mafia will hurt me in retribution. If i fail, town will not believe i am Third Party and get me executed.

Issue: I am replacement. Who ever replaces out of Power Slot?... Well if serious issues maybe.

3. Thinking

[Enchant]

Alright so.

So far my best bet is... Not being obvious town to get shot ASAP. That's what would Unjester do, and mafia knows there's one most likely, because if i was mafia, i totally would try to learn what unjester does.
I need to play like i am uninformed town idiot and drag game to moment where mafia will consider me annoyance. Well, i am partially is, so it should be easy.

[Enchant]

DAMN IF IT WAS JESTER WINCON I WIN ON THE SPOT.

[Enchant]

Being killed is literally last thing which will happen to me.

[Enchant]

Aristeia
Dannflor
WhemeStar
Titus

Sail

(VT)
Ranger
furtiveglance
camelCasedSnivy
osuka

jjh927

(Exploder)
Andresvmb
KatyKimFanClub
NorwegianboyEE
RCEnigma
Doctor Drew
Dusa

Enchant

Alisae
GuiltyLion

Balance:
12 town, 4 mafia, 1 Third Party

@Mod
If jjh927 targeted me with ability, would i win? Because it's "Leave" with them.

[Datisi]

@Mod
If jjh927 targeted me with ability, would i win? Because it's "Leave" with them.

no, you need to be expelled (nightkilled) to win.

[Enchant]

But i am not dismissed either.

[Datisi]

you win once you are expelled.

[Enchant]

I presume town can't expel.

[Enchant]

These townies..............................

[Enchant]

This action will either lose me game (or at best forces me to claim and hope town just don't bumrush me) or potentially getting atleast one ally.

My chances to win before being simple eliminated by vote is pretty small as i can count like 2-3 cases of being nightkilled and that's because i wield PR or mafia THINK i wield one.


So i gonna bet all and send PM to... Who. Who i should ally self with?

[Enchant]

I send message to... Aristeia. But i won't claim. Just inform her so third party not worth searching. She probably gonna claim it.


"932530
third party win if expelled (town get two dismissals votes next day)
third party lose if voted out (mafia get additional kill next night) lived until end or died other way
one mafia PR can spend 10SPR to learn this wincondition
2-shot ability to send private or public message
~ unjester"

[Enchant]

I need to carefully look who react how.

I have second mail, so i can team up with someone who don't say something a kind "it's lie" or "unjester is also evil"

This way i can aim ally recruitment message better.


... It would far easier to play from D1...

[Enchant]

Well fuck lol

Should had send public message

[Enchant]

ATLEAST I CAN'T BE TRACKED.

LOL.

... i can be catched by watcher though. But how likely that so?

[Enchant]

I did this not due fear.

I just gived a tip that i am PR.
... I am not sure if it works or not. I hope it does.


Also if it's possible, say "Hi" to Aris in dead chat.

[Enchant]

My chances to win just decreased.

... Probably. As long as i am townread i should get smooth.

[Enchant]

Srlsly what's wrong with these PRs.

They steal my opportonity to die!

[Enchant]

Okay now that i know wincon i also learn that in case of evil parity or majority game will not end. So therefore i can just wait until evil majority and strike deal with mafia to aid in voting in responce to killing me.

... Would i want to do that though? While it's my best shot at win, that's kinda lame.


Correct choice is to not make one. My standart third party police is friend with anyone, until someone antagonise me. So i make decision if i somehow survive until Elo depending on who will try to vote me out.

It's likely that i WILL be voted out though like that.


I need to make decision what to do with mail.

[Enchant]

Ah fuck it.

Who don't risk die boring and i am fucking just can't.

I am mailing Ranger.

[Enchant]

"Well, i have ability to mail. Can as well do something with it.

Hello Ranger, it's Enchant. Read this carefully.

I am

Third Party

. My wincon is simple: Be Expelled. If i live until end of game or if i am left game for any reason or dismissed, then i lose.
If i am Expelled, next day will be two Dismissals (votes).
If i am voted out and Dismissed, mafia get additional kill next night. Yeah it's kinda game where you are punished for voting not-town, too bad. Anyway.
There's nothing if i die for other reason but not Dismissed by vote (i guess).

It's all part of wincon. Why - read further.

Flavor wise, my parents want me to be psychologist yet i am not, so i need to leave university "not because my fault". I am not sure how flavor wise explained that mafia get NK or vice versa, but that's given.


My ability is 2-Shot Mailman and 2-Shot Crier or sort. Basically i can send private message 2 times and also i can post public message for everyone to see at start of day 2 times as well. I used private message N2 with explainations how my role works (so she spills it in public) on Aris but she kinda died. N1 i did nothing (cuz i was not me that time).
I am also Ascetic. Heh.
I have name of fakeclaim: Social Media Engineer. I probably will claim it if pressured.
And last thing, i am informed that mafia has PR which with waste of 10SPR can learn what wincondition third party have. Not my skills, but they learn what happens if they NK me or trick town in voting me out (that's why it's part of wincon). I think they already did it and will look for potential unjesters.


So anyway, while we are not allies in strong sense as factions are different, our goals are simular and not contradicting, regardless if you are town or mafia (i think you are town though).

So i propose teamwork. To make it simple i:
1. Will be on board with all ideas you propose. If you claim that you used something on me i claim you did. If you say we are masons, we are. You claim you are real Unjester (no really simple state that mafia has 10SPR ability to learn 3p wincon and they WILL believe it and leave you alone. Just don't claim it out of bat though and town can not believe it). It's fun as it sounds.
2. I vote whatever you want eliminated. We have mostly same look on gamestate, it's just that i knew who 3p is from start so i can't really help with scumhunting.
3. If you are town i won't side against town in ELO or pass it (aka in 3 town 3 mafia 1 me i vote with town anyway) even if mafia reveal and ask for deal. Obviously promises like these are mostly useless, but i am not survivor: I want to be killed at night. So i will continue to work against mafia in hopes they will kill me.
I call off this one only in one case: 1vs1vs1. Then sorry but i can't really break site rules and play against wincon. It's UNLIKELY that i will live that long though and town must be really incompetent so hey?

I expect:
1. You not rat me out publically. Fighting off 3p haters is really not something like i want to do whole day, but most importantly it nulifies my chances to be NK. I also can be eliminated which will give mafia additional NK so you don't get natural advantage from betraying me. Well unless you are mafia, but then why we just don't get at parity and hold vote?
2. You try to trick mafia in killing me. Townread me, say i confirmed self to you somehow by PR/whatever you please really. If you are mafia just kill me after ELO.
3. That's probably it. Easy huh?

If you don't believe that i am Unjester. Consider this:
Why there's

Loyal

Vigilante? Why there's Exploder which forces players to

leave

game (yes i lose from this one, unfair as fuck). Why there's babysitter which can only kill town members? Town have no way to expel. So you can free to assume that anyone claiming expels are mafia.

Consider this offer universal, regardless of your alignment we will win this together.

And please Ranger. Don't die. Really. I mean it.
And if i died somehow this night, say hi to Norwe from me.

That's it."