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[Dannflor]

VC 1.1

This is Halloween

TheHoldSteady [5] :

SmileyDude1, OutWorldER, Wartortle, DragonEater70, Naerys

Wartortle [2] :

Blackstar, AnimatedWizard

usesPython [1] :

heipizhu4

heipizhu4 [1] :

usesPython

DragonEater70 [1] :

Afrayed Knott

OutWorldER [1] :

TheHoldSteady

Not Voting: [2]

Hu Tao, blackbear

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-11-05 20:11:20).

Mod Notes:

TheHoldSteady is V/LA

[DragonEater70]

Tortle, walk me through these votes

i saw 59 and it failed the vibe check so i voted OWER

i then went back to THS' case and realized that it sucked

Yeah I had the same thought process lol.

[DragonEater70]

This is Halloween

Oh this is such a good movie btw

[DragonEater70]

Reads or something:

Above null
Wiz
Tortle
DarkStar
Python
NULL LINE - Everyone else
OWER
THS
Below null

I also have a huge desire to pocket Naerys so I'm going to say she's town for now as well.

[DragonEater70]

Anyone here?

[Wartortle]

Anyone here?

sup

[Wartortle]

Afrayed, how are you feeling about TheHoldSteady right now? I feel like y’all have similar playstyles, so you might have a better insight into this push than I do.

absolutely transparent scum buddying

[Wartortle]

either wizzler is super new to mafia and genuinely has thought processes like this as town, or wizzy is new but not

super

new to mafia and tries to badly pocket affrayed like this as scum

[Wartortle]

the question itself that's made in 71 will never lead to anything productive, it depends if wiz has the ability as town to recognize this

[DragonEater70]

Well Wiz is new, I haven't played with him though to know if he actually has thought processes like that or not as town.

I will however say that my early TR of him falls flat on reread, so he's actually at a lower spot than Python on my readlist now.

[BlackStar]

either wizzler is super new to mafia and genuinely has thought processes like this as town, or wizzy is new but not

super

new to mafia and tries to badly pocket affrayed like this as scum

In the game that I played with Wiz recently, he was scum and made a lot of posts like that. I wanted to wait and see if he made more posts that reminded me of that game instead of immediately pointing it out though

[BlackStar]

UNVOTE: Wartortle

[Wartortle]

either wizzler is super new to mafia and genuinely has thought processes like this as town, or wizzy is new but not

super

new to mafia and tries to badly pocket affrayed like this as scum

In the game that I played with Wiz recently, he was scum and made a lot of posts like that. I wanted to wait and see if he made more posts that reminded me of that game instead of immediately pointing it out though

would he have illogical posts like that as town too?

[SmileyDude1]

Anyone here?

Yo.

VOTE: heip 5 feels awkward as hell

From what I remember, Zhu just speaks like that—don’t think the awkwardness is alignment-indicative, personally.

Was wondering where you got this perspective from. The only game you two played together (to my knowledge) was 2311, where Heip was scum. How do you know it's not a scum-indicative trait for him?

[BlackStar]

either wizzler is super new to mafia and genuinely has thought processes like this as town, or wizzy is new but not

super

new to mafia and tries to badly pocket affrayed like this as scum

In the game that I played with Wiz recently, he was scum and made a lot of posts like that. I wanted to wait and see if he made more posts that reminded me of that game instead of immediately pointing it out though

would he have illogical posts like that as town too?

That's the only game that I've played with him, so I don't know

[SmileyDude1]

@Dragoneater70
How does this.

Tortle, walk me through these votes

i saw 59 and it failed the vibe check so i voted OWER

i then went back to THS' case and realized that it sucked

Yeah I had the same thought process lol.

Track with this.

Arrrgh fine

VOTE: THS

He's probably town but I'm supposed to be openwolfing so voting for people who are probably town is good for keeping a wolfy image.

[AnimatedWiz]

I get the suspicion, but I really am just asking someone for their read on someone else. Your call on whether it’s bad play or scummy, though.

[TheHoldSteady]

either wizzler is super new to mafia and genuinely has thought processes like this as town, or wizzy is new but not

super

new to mafia and tries to badly pocket affrayed like this as scum

Wiz is actually pretty good (at least as town). The one game I played with him he correctly nailed a scum that I had incorrectly read as town.

[DragonEater70]

@Dragoneater70
How does this.

Tortle, walk me through these votes

i saw 59 and it failed the vibe check so i voted OWER

i then went back to THS' case and realized that it sucked

Yeah I had the same thought process lol.

Track with this.

Arrrgh fine

VOTE: THS

He's probably town but I'm supposed to be openwolfing so voting for people who are probably town is good for keeping a wolfy image.

How does me voting THS track with having the same thought process as Tortle about THS making a bad case?

Really?

[DragonEater70]

Wiz is actually pretty good (at least as town). The one game I played with him he correctly nailed a scum that I had incorrectly read as town.

Didn't he nail two scum? Or was he TRing worst? (I haven't read that game fully but I have skimmed it)

[DragonEater70]

Smiley can you link a town game of yours?

[SmileyDude1]

@Dragoneater70
How does this.

Tortle, walk me through these votes

i saw 59 and it failed the vibe check so i voted OWER

i then went back to THS' case and realized that it sucked

Yeah I had the same thought process lol.

Track with this.

Arrrgh fine

VOTE: THS

He's probably town but I'm supposed to be openwolfing so voting for people who are probably town is good for keeping a wolfy image.

How does me voting THS track with having the same thought process as Tortle about THS making a bad case?

Really?

It came off to me like you were originally voting Hold as a joke (Openwolf comment), but then decided to retroactively justify said vote by which felt kind of weird to me.

Mainly wondering how you went from Hold being lean town to lowest read that quickly.

[SmileyDude1]

Smiley can you link a town game of yours?

Let's see if I did this right. Ok I did let's go
viewtopic.php?sid=&f=11&t=91394&user_select%5B%5D=37137

Newbie 2129

[DragonEater70]

It came off to me like you were originally voting Hold as a joke (Openwolf comment), but then decided to retroactively justify said vote by which felt kind of weird to me.

IDK if you are intentionally reaching here as scum or not, so I'm gonna go read your town game and decide based on that. However, the openwolf comment was just a joke appended to a real vote.

Mainly wondering how you went from Hold being lean town to lowest read that quickly.

Well, I only townread THS for that post. And I had the exact same process as Tortle, so that should be a sufficient explanation for you.

[DragonEater70]

Having skimmed your ISO that game, I feel you are a lot slimier here than in that game

It's probably partially confbias, but I think it warrants a vote and we'll see how this develops.

VOTE: Smiley