Normal Game Changes (New Year 2024 Update)
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ORAM She/HerTownieShe/Her
- Townie
- Townie
- Posts: 82
- Joined: October 25, 2020
- Pronoun: She/Her
- Location: The Northwest
I believe it's a push for inclusive language and against 'men are the default' stuff, I'll let someone more eloquent (and more knowledgeable) confirm-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 42893
- Joined: July 17, 2017
- Location: San Francisco
Mafia Don could be a decent replacement for Godfather.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Skygazer anyFor My Next Guestany
- For My Next Guest
- For My Next Guest
- Posts: 11814
- Joined: June 17, 2018
- Pronoun: any
- Location: Baltimore
mafia goon with an alibi-
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DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7785
- Joined: February 4, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UTC+2
I like that name but Idk if it fits in the Normal naming scheme-
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usesPython They/ThemMafia ScumThey/Them
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 4582
- Joined: January 28, 2023
- Pronoun: They/Them
Double Agent for GodfatherPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Cook SheMafia ScumShe
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2992
- Joined: December 5, 2020
- Pronoun: She
- Location: Stapling Internet Together [89.9%]
has the same issue as traitor for me — it implies the leader is plotting against the mafia. that falls more under Usurper but regardlessIn post 79, usesPython wrote: Double Agent for GodfatherYour friendly neighborhood chef and baker. LONG LIVE THE CHEFHAT REBELLION!
Cults With Guns //"ya true if you don't play mafia you are probably winning" – Alisae
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Cook SheMafia ScumShe
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2992
- Joined: December 5, 2020
- Pronoun: She
- Location: Stapling Internet Together [89.9%]
the ideas are appreciatedYour friendly neighborhood chef and baker. LONG LIVE THE CHEFHAT REBELLION!
Cults With Guns //"ya true if you don't play mafia you are probably winning" – Alisae
Inventor of 3d20 //Successful Rebellion Leader//-
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Cook SheMafia ScumShe
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2992
- Joined: December 5, 2020
- Pronoun: She
- Location: Stapling Internet Together [89.9%]
what about...In post 76, Flavor Leaf wrote: Mafia Don could be a decent replacement for Godfather.?Mafia MastermindYour friendly neighborhood chef and baker. LONG LIVE THE CHEFHAT REBELLION!
Cults With Guns //"ya true if you don't play mafia you are probably winning" – Alisae
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 69107
- Joined: August 9, 2016
- Pronoun: Any
- Location: Hell on Earth (aka Texas)
Mastermind is a EM role that steals the win for itself the scumteam wins<Embrace The Void>
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DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7785
- Joined: February 4, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UTC+2
It was a pretty bad role TBH. It made mafia anonymous but there were ways to find who the mafia was anyway. I think it was unfun both for Mafia (anonymity and potential for killing each other / having win stolen) and for Village (wtf why do we have 4 maf in a 12 player game?)In post 83, Gamma Emerald wrote: Mastermind is a EM role that steals the win for itself the scumteam wins-
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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
- Death by 1000 Pagetops
- Death by 1000 Pagetops
- Posts: 4467
- Joined: February 23, 2022
- Pronoun: She/Her
- Location: Land of the Freeze
I think Boss and Undercover are the best suggestions if people feel that Godfather needs to be changed.I townread Alianna.
Post #1000s Collected: 24
On hiatus from playing mafia.-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 69107
- Joined: August 9, 2016
- Pronoun: Any
- Location: Hell on Earth (aka Texas)
I’ve seen Mastermind in a forum setting where it was just an anonymous account that posted to the scum PT<Embrace The Void>
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DkKoba They/ThemSurvivorThey/Them
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 20638
- Joined: January 28, 2020
- Pronoun: They/Them
i'm against changing it on the basis that its a universally known role with a specific function and yes it is gendered - but its a role disconnected from the identity of the player. creating confusion for newer people to the site for the sake of inclusivity on something that is just a role in a game is meh. its a very ingrained role in mafia history and renaming it doesn't feel right.
if it was some lesser used role like motion detector id probably be on board but idt this role should get touchedretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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DragonEater70 He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 7785
- Joined: February 4, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: UTC+2
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Cook SheMafia ScumShe
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2992
- Joined: December 5, 2020
- Pronoun: She
- Location: Stapling Internet Together [89.9%]
fair enough! thirdedYour friendly neighborhood chef and baker. LONG LIVE THE CHEFHAT REBELLION!
Cults With Guns //"ya true if you don't play mafia you are probably winning" – Alisae
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TemporalLich Grand Scheme
- Grand Scheme
- Grand Scheme
- Posts: 5804
- Joined: January 30, 2019
- Location: A Lost Timeline
I think having an official alias forGodfatherseems to be a good compromise.
The role name is iconic, thoughDonis also a good role name.
As forMacho, I'd sayRecklessshould be an official alias but that's only because there seems to be no consensus on a good alternate name for Macho.time will end-
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Black she/herTwilight Princessshe/her
- Twilight Princess
- Twilight Princess
- Posts: 13203
- Joined: January 27, 2023
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I kinda likeStubbornfor Macho. You can try to protect them but they will refuse
I was thinkingBravebut I feel like it needs a negative connotation since it's a drawback-
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TemporalLich Grand Scheme
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- Grand Scheme
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- Location: A Lost Timeline
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 69107
- Joined: August 9, 2016
- Pronoun: Any
- Location: Hell on Earth (aka Texas)
I like Reckless or Arrogant for Macho<Embrace The Void>
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2907
- Joined: November 15, 2019
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: Epping, New South Wales, Australia
I'd agree on having an alias forIn post 90, TemporalLich wrote: I think having an official alias forGodfatherseems to be a good compromise.
The role name is iconic, thoughDonis also a good role name.
As forMacho, I'd sayRecklessshould be an official alias but that's only because there seems to be no consensus on a good alternate name for Macho.Godfatherbe a good compromise though I'm still undecided onDon, given it seems to be more of an American thing. (Maybe we could go forBoss?)
Reckless, I think, would be a good idea, be it a renaming ofMachoor just as an alias.-
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N Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8539
- Joined: August 2, 2012
I think if you're creating a new name for Godfather it should be about the fact that it gives false negatives. Names like Don and Boss don't really make sense; it's not in charge.-
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2907
- Joined: November 15, 2019
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: Epping, New South Wales, Australia
This is a good point.In post 95, N wrote: I think if you're creating a new name for Godfather it should be about the fact that it gives false negatives. Names like Don and Boss don't really make sense; it's not in charge.-
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TemporalLich Grand Scheme
- Grand Scheme
- Grand Scheme
- Posts: 5804
- Joined: January 30, 2019
- Location: A Lost Timeline
Would something likeIn post 95, N wrote: I think if you're creating a new name for Godfather it should be about the fact that it gives false negatives. Names like Don and Boss don't really make sense; it's not in charge.CovertorDiscreetwork for that purpose?time will end-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 69107
- Joined: August 9, 2016
- Pronoun: Any
- Location: Hell on Earth (aka Texas)
I like Covert<Embrace The Void>
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2829
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
Just go with "Boss" instead of tip-toeing around the minefield.
Tony Soprano was "The Boss," and that fits just as well.
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