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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:00 am

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Scumz Die Now Pact


Preamble

This is a treaty of mutual assistance between the signatory players, who agree to consult each other and make collective decisions regarding placement of votes, with the intention of intimidating the heck out of the scum, and using their collective influence to run the evil do’ers outta town.

Consultation

When 1 signatory feels they have caught the scent of a scumbag, they may request the assistance of other signatories, in running them upto a claim, and possibly a lynch. Other signatories must answer this request affirmatively, or have a very good reason not to. For the purposes of organisation, all willing members will then Proxy their vote to said signatory, for the duration of the wagon.

Entry/Departure

A player may only be granted admittance to this treaty by a unanimous vote of existing signatories.
A signatory may voluntarily leave this treaty at any time, and must say so in thread.
A signatory may be forcibly removed from this treaty by a majority vote of the remaining signatories.

Signed:

^Thats my first draft. Thoughts, comments?

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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:03 am

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I'm suspicious of any "pact". It smells too much like an informed minority. SCUMZ DIE NOW PACT IS SCUMZ! We shall not have a self-appointed bunch of leaders manipulating wagons! Let us rebel! Join me in the ANTI-TREATY COALITION!
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:16 am

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I hereby understand and confirm my role.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:17 am

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Korts wrote:I'm suspicious of any "pact". It smells too much like an informed minority. SCUMZ DIE NOW PACT IS SCUMZ! We shall not have a self-appointed bunch of leaders manipulating wagons! Let us rebel! Join me in the ANTI-TREATY COALITION!
Ok i admit it. I ROFL'd :D :lol:

I think we should get this signed as soon as possible. Preferably before Armlx gets here. By the way, this is only PARTLY a joke. I do actually think it could prove quite insightful.

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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:19 am

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Korts wrote:I'm suspicious of any "pact". It smells too much like an informed minority. SCUMZ DIE NOW PACT IS SCUMZ! We shall not have a self-appointed bunch of leaders manipulating wagons! Let us rebel! Join me in the ANTI-TREATY COALITION!
LoL so lets see... pact is scummy smelling... so we should join forces (form a pact?) to kill off people in a pact? LoL :P
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:20 am

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wolframnhart wrote:
Korts wrote:I'm suspicious of any "pact". It smells too much like an informed minority. SCUMZ DIE NOW PACT IS SCUMZ! We shall not have a self-appointed bunch of leaders manipulating wagons! Let us rebel! Join me in the ANTI-TREATY COALITION!
LoL so lets see... pact is scummy smelling... so we should join forces (form a pact?) to kill off people in a pact? LoL :P
yeh, erm...it's less funny when you break it into pieces like that. ;)

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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:20 am

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BM my concern is scum can be in this and that would lead to a lot of troubles for the town.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:23 am

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MafiaMann wrote:BM my concern is scum can be in this and that would lead to a lot of troubles for the town.
Lol, i think we're all aware of that. That's why:

1. the group will be kept small.
2. there is no security agreement for people who have signed, therefore, nobody is safe. :P
3. New members will be handpicked carefully based on play. (obviously later on anyway :P)

Remember, the group itself isnt what i'm going for. It's what the group could give us insight-wise into people's play. I'd rather not have this over-analysed for all and sundry atm, so just give me the benefit of the doubt, mmk?

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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:24 am

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Seriously though BM, I think we should just let everyone make up their own minds. I don't want people following you ;)
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:26 am

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Korts wrote:Seriously though BM, I think we should just let everyone make up their own minds. I don't want people following you ;)
It's the RANDOM stage. What exactly are you afraid of? ;)

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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:26 am

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But we should follow you in the anti-treaty coalition? :P
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:31 am

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wolframnhart wrote:But we should follow you in the anti-treaty coalition? :P
Duh. Everyone who endorses individual thought should join under my flag and vote wherever I do!

BM, I'm just kidding, I'm actually interested how you'd handle this pact thing. (I'm just saying this so we don't get into this pre-game)
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:38 am

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Korts wrote:
wolframnhart wrote:But we should follow you in the anti-treaty coalition? :P
Duh. Everyone who endorses individual thought should join under my flag and vote wherever I do!

BM, I'm just kidding, I'm actually interested how you'd handle this pact thing. (I'm just saying this so we don't get into this pre-game)
How about a merger? That way you dont have to worry about me being an evil swiss dictator, like so many before me. :P

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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:41 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Korts wrote:
wolframnhart wrote:But we should follow you in the anti-treaty coalition? :P
Duh. Everyone who endorses individual thought should join under my flag and vote wherever I do!

BM, I'm just kidding, I'm actually interested how you'd handle this pact thing. (I'm just saying this so we don't get into this pre-game)
How about a merger? That way you dont have to worry about me being an evil swiss dictator, like so many before me. :P

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An uneasy truce maybe.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:45 am

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/confirm

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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:53 am

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That pact reminds me of certain games I've read involving Pooky.

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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:55 am

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MafiaMann wrote:BM my concern is scum can be in this and that would lead to a lot of troubles for the town.
^ this
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:56 am

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Cephrir wrote:That pact reminds me of certain games I've read involving Pooky.

/confirm. The delegation from Camelot has arrived. Not really, sadly.
you mean...Swiss Camelot? >.>

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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:56 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
MafiaMann wrote:BM my concern is scum can be in this and that would lead to a lot of troubles for the town.
Lol, i think we're all aware of that. That's why:

1. the group will be kept small.
2. there is no security agreement for people who have signed, therefore, nobody is safe. :P
3. New members will be handpicked carefully based on play. (obviously later on anyway :P)

Remember, the group itself isnt what i'm going for. It's what the group could give us insight-wise into people's play. I'd rather not have this over-analysed for all and sundry atm, so just give me the benefit of the doubt, mmk?

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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:58 am

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Scumz Die Now Pact


Preamble

This is a treaty of mutual assistance between the signatory players, who agree to consult each other and make collective decisions regarding placement of votes, with the intention of intimidating the heck out of the scum, and using their collective influence to run the evil do’ers outta town.

Consultation

When 1 signatory feels they have caught the scent of a scumbag, they may request the assistance of other signatories, in running them upto a claim, and possibly a lynch. Other signatories must answer this request affirmatively, or have a very good reason not to. For the purposes of organisation, all willing members will then Proxy their vote to said signatory, for the duration of the wagon.

Entry/Departure

A player may only be granted admittance to this treaty by a unanimous vote of existing signatories.
A signatory may voluntarily leave this treaty at any time, and must say so in thread.
A signatory may be forcibly removed from this treaty by a majority vote of the remaining signatories.

Signed:
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:59 am

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You do realize that there's no way of knowing scum at all and even though your pact states not to trust anyone you'll be discussing with people who could be scum and have a chance to manipulate discussion.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:00 am

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EBWOP: I meant manipulate the discussion between your pact
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:01 am

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OpposedForce wrote:You do realize that there's no way of knowing scum at all and even though your pact states not to trust anyone you'll be discussing with people who could be scum and have a chance to manipulate discussion.
Duh. That's an equally important part of the concept. :roll:

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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:05 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
OpposedForce wrote:You do realize that there's no way of knowing scum at all and even though your pact states not to trust anyone you'll be discussing with people who could be scum and have a chance to manipulate discussion.
Duh. That's an equally important part of the concept. :roll:

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I'm guessing you have no idea how bad of a concept that is :roll:
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:08 am

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I'm not really sure whether or not this is a good idea. But even if it's not, it'll be fun.

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