Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Bingle]

If you aren’t voting outside of Celeb, then I have to solve this game today.

I mean... I don't think either of us makes it to 3p ELO.

We're clearly the next two nk's if we make it that far, and Dunn, Naerys, Hu Tao is a trio where I'm really only confident on feeling Dunn town. I'm slightly concerned that Hu Tao/Dunn will mislim you after I get shot here, but I've done what I can to emphasize the townread there.

I'll compromise lim here if I absolutely have to, but celeb is mechanically confscum to me and I don't see a reason to let that go.

[Flavor Leaf]

Naerys
Dunnstral

Bingle/Celebloki

Hu Tao
Maestro

Tiers ARE ordered. That’s why Bingle/Celebloki are on same line. Right now I ‘might’ be leaning Celebloki, but from my pov, that is game ending if wrong, and I can also case Bingle.

But for now, I’m finding the scum outside of Bingle/Celeb, Maestro.

[Flavor Leaf]

If you aren’t voting outside of Celeb, then I have to solve this game today.

I mean... I don't think either of us makes it to 3p ELO.

We're clearly the next two nk's if we make it that far, and Dunn, Naerys, Hu Tao is a trio where I'm really only confident on feeling Dunn town. I'm slightly concerned that Hu Tao/Dunn will mislim you after I get shot here, but I've done what I can to emphasize the townread there.

I'll compromise lim here if I absolutely have to, but celeb is mechanically confscum to me and I don't see a reason to let that go.

Maestro is confscum to me, I don’t see any reason to let that go myself.

[Hu Tao]

Huge leap by you FL

[Hu Tao]

Naerys, whats your thoughts on FL?

[Flavor Leaf]

If you aren’t voting outside of Celeb, then I have to solve this game today.

I mean... I don't think either of us makes it to 3p ELO.

We're clearly the next two nk's if we make it that far, and Dunn, Naerys, Hu Tao is a trio where I'm really only confident on feeling Dunn town. I'm slightly concerned that Hu Tao/Dunn will mislim you after I get shot here, but I've done what I can to emphasize the townread there.

I'll compromise lim here if I absolutely have to, but celeb is mechanically confscum to me and I don't see a reason to let that go.

This is a big reason why going Celebloki, even if they are scum, is just not as good for me.

I think hitting a ScumCeleb here today still ends in a town loss.

From my pov, I have to get one of the other ones.

Celeb scum flip leads Bingle death, which leads to my flip, and I’m town.

That is scum’s plan and if someone votes Bingle, they could quick hammer anyways.

Win-win situation for them.

I have to take these leaps.

[Flavor Leaf]

I compromised on Day 2 with Cakez, and I knew that was a mistake.

I got paranoid with Roden, my strongest town read on Day 3.

I have been so close all game, but I keep getting slightly pushed out of the way, and frankly that means scum are people who actively know how to manage me.

[Flavor Leaf]

But yeah, Dunn/Naerys, please do not vote if you are town.

Let this sit out, and we can at least prove that Flavor and Hu Tao are not T/T.

If you’re scum, well, gg, you deserve the win.

[Celebloki]

Unfortunately I think town has a very slim chance to win this game. Solely because I don't think the remaining town players will be able to not vote me the rest of the game. Scum will never NK me, my death confirms FL is town and Bingle is scum. If I'm not voted the remaining days I'll have more guilties and clears. They have to bank on getting me voted out and sowing distrust in me. The side effect is that for the rest of the game I'll clear/guilty someone each night.

The scum team is for sure at least Bingle and Maestro. I am stuck between Dunn and Hu Tao for the final slot. I guess we'll see if FL's gamble pays off. I'm not voting outside of Bingle or Maestro. At this point I think the better lim is Maestro on the off chance scum does NK me, it'll damn Bingle. If the game doesn't end today, I'll probably target Dunn or Hu Tao tonight.

[Hu Tao]

Is there a possibility there is a traitor or no?

[Bingle]

Unfortunately I think town has a very slim chance to win this game. Solely because I don't think the remaining town players will be able to not vote me the rest of the game. Scum will never NK me, my death confirms FL is town and Bingle is scum. If I'm not voted the remaining days I'll have more guilties and clears. They have to bank on getting me voted out and sowing distrust in me. The side effect is that for the rest of the game I'll clear/guilty someone each night.

The scum team is for sure at least Bingle and Maestro. I am stuck between Dunn and Hu Tao for the final slot. I guess we'll see if FL's gamble pays off. I'm not voting outside of Bingle or Maestro. At this point I think the better lim is Maestro on the off chance scum does NK me, it'll damn Bingle. If the game doesn't end today, I'll probably target Dunn or Hu Tao tonight.

If you were town you’d realize that it literally has to be Hu Tao/Bingle/Maestro fypov.

[Bingle]

Is there a possibility there is a traitor or no?

No. No traitors in a simple game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Unfortunately I think town has a very slim chance to win this game. Solely because I don't think the remaining town players will be able to not vote me the rest of the game. Scum will never NK me, my death confirms FL is town and Bingle is scum. If I'm not voted the remaining days I'll have more guilties and clears. They have to bank on getting me voted out and sowing distrust in me. The side effect is that for the rest of the game I'll clear/guilty someone each night.

The scum team is for sure at least Bingle and Maestro. I am stuck between Dunn and Hu Tao for the final slot. I guess we'll see if FL's gamble pays off. I'm not voting outside of Bingle or Maestro. At this point I think the better lim is Maestro on the off chance scum does NK me, it'll damn Bingle. If the game doesn't end today, I'll probably target Dunn or Hu Tao tonight.

If you were town you’d realize that it literally has to be Hu Tao/Bingle/Maestro fypov.

I don't think this is true yet.

It's possible in a world where one of Naerys or Dunn is scum that they havent checked in yet.

I don't think either of them are scum, though, so Maestro/Hu Tao likely lock scum here.

If not, town lose here.

[Naerys]

Maestro hopping on Cele is either really bad play or scummy. It kinda reeks with trying to put some psychological pressure on us. Sheepier townies would give in to that and allow speedy mislim.
I dont like Celebloki´s hammer and his reasoning for it, but that Maestro´s vote... the more i think about the less i like it. Its timing, they way he voted.
I dont think i can see a universe where Cele+Maestro are alligned? For scum to fake guilty and his buddy trying to buss him at this point does not make sense. Bingle and Maestro probably buddies
Therefore Bingle+Maestro+Dunn feels rather likely to me

You don't think flavors jump on maestro was equally as bad btw?

Equally? No. Scum Flavor isnt erratic like this - or thats my impression i have from scum!Flavor. Here Flavor feels paranoid and overthinking stuff and well, throwing one conclusion after another.But i feel his attempt to solve is genuine.
Maestro hopped on Celebi with doubtful reasoning and it really reeks with attempt to manipulate.

[Naerys]

@Dunn - If I were conf town, who would be the scum team for you?

Celeb/maestro/naerys looks likely to me, tbh. Celeb has you in a pocket because of the inno, and naerys is just kind of following the path of least resistance there.

Like, look at my voting history again. I protected Dunn from elimination because I thought he was an unouted JK who had willingly crumbed to prevent celeb going down. I was the biggest push for celeb to live another day. I was pushed gob until I thought he was town and the wagon only went through eventually because it was high info. I stood behind cakez even at significant risk of my own lim.

Like, undoubtedly I’ve had some bad reads this game, regardless of who is the third, but consistently I’ve been doing things that don’t really benefit a scumme scumteam and you should see that.

No, i was pushing Maestro slot since it was RCE and inactive. Besides, if Celebi was my partner i would hardly say that his hammer smells.

[Naerys]

Naerys, whats your thoughts on FL?

I dont feel a predatory vibe from him like in that game where he was traitor. Since i am town i dont really see a team scum!FL could be in.
Well, maybe FL/Celeb/Dunn but that doesnt work with my own suspictions-Maestro,Bingle,Dunn.

[Dunnstral]

It is hard for me to figure out Celebloki or Naerys alignment.

Naerys how do you feel about being the only person suspecting me?

[Hu Tao]

Naerys, whats your thoughts on FL?

I dont feel a predatory vibe from him like in that game where he was traitor. Since i am town i dont really see a team scum!FL could be in.
Well, maybe FL/Celeb/Dunn but that doesnt work with my own suspictions-Maestro,Bingle,Dunn.

But he's voting pretty recklessly which is what your complain about maestro was. You also seem to think I'm town based on your solves from earlier. Has anything changed after he voted me?

[Hu Tao]

It is hard for me to figure out Celebloki or Naerys alignment.

Relatable

[Dunnstral]

but that doesnt work with my own suspictions-Maestro,Bingle,Dunn.

Flavor leaf is voting for Hu Tao, there should be mafia between them.

[Hu Tao]

but that doesnt work with my own suspictions-Maestro,Bingle,Dunn.

Flavor leaf is voting for Hu Tao, there should be mafia between them.

Why say this when I'm trying to see her answer she comes up with

[Dunnstral]

I did not see the connection, if that was a mistake it was on accident

[Naerys]

It is hard for me to figure out Celebloki or Naerys alignment.

Naerys how do you feel about being the only person suspecting me?

That its perfectly fine having opinion slightly different than others. I never really cared about stuff like that. If i see reasonable argument then i may rethink my suspictions, if i dont see any then nope. Amount of people suspecting the person i suspect isnt important for me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I do not believe I am voting recklessly.

I spent hours making sure I was confident in my read, and I took the chance.

Now, Hu Tao is conf scum to me since they still aren’t hammered.

[Naerys]

as i finished watching the ballad of songbirds and snakes

Its the things we love the most that destroy us

Sorry, but i had to