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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I don’t think it was as scum sided as it came across.
I get why it feels that way, though.
We stopped your Cop from getting actions on Night 2.
I came up with the Unstoppable which made it seem like there wasn’t a broken back and forth defensive Strat in the FG.
We had no real clue who our partners were (although Maestro laid it on way too think on Day 3. Still don’t understand their play there, but it worked out).
I feel like Theta and I were nearly POE’d, but we spent the game controlling day narrative.
It swinged towards us early because of the first 2 misfades (I quick hammered the 2nd one for a reason), and town lost the 3rd party early through the actions, which lowered numbers.
This game was a lot closer than it looked, especially because Converts and OG Addict didn’t know the others, and even we didn’t because of how the Real Name thing worked, which was true.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
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"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Abnegation she/herGoonshe/her
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i spectated this game. congrats cult!
and condolences about the altslip, drew.Showlowercase alt of alianna.
i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.
- abnegation manifesto-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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For instance, if Hu Tao targeted Theta or myself (if I didn’t fake claim Miller)
That was basically a direct guilty and 50% of our team gone.
Only 2 specific members of scum needed to die for town to win, but we pulled ahead early.
Like if Hu Tao and Aureal targeted Theta and I Night 1, and if Aureal got the conveter, that was game over.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I had no clue what to do this game, didn’t fully catch up cuz that was intimidating and I didn’t want to step on the plans the main faction cult was doing so did the bare minimum I could think of-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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i think thats what bianco did too. i think thats the nature of this setup because converts do have to protect the group scum.In post 3378, JacksonVirgo wrote: I had no clue what to do this game, didn’t fully catch up cuz that was intimidating and I didn’t want to step on the plans the main faction cult was doing so did the bare minimum I could think of
i imagine it doesn't feel good to be converted, though. I guess you came into the game like that, though.
Bianco did target both group scum members with their target, and i even hard defended what I thought was a Dan case about the 3 of us scum, but he was town casing us.
Theta, JV, and I were all Novice/Non-Consecutive, so was hoping that didn't get out too much.
Theta and I had roles that were kinda helpful, but not really, so it really was a matter of controlling day play.
Me testing out Gamma Ascetic claim helped tremendously, and I likely wouldn't have done that without getting the coffee/recruit on Bianco Day 1, so that is a swing that went in our favor.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Doctor Drew He/HimSurvivorHe/Him
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Just had a thought, now I know when we don't fight in a game......you are scum lol.In post 3379, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i think thats what bianco did too. i think thats the nature of this setup because converts do have to protect the group scum.In post 3378, JacksonVirgo wrote: I had no clue what to do this game, didn’t fully catch up cuz that was intimidating and I didn’t want to step on the plans the main faction cult was doing so did the bare minimum I could think of
i imagine it doesn't feel good to be converted, though. I guess you came into the game like that, though.
Bianco did target both group scum members with their target, and i even hard defended what I thought was a Dan case about the 3 of us scum, but he was town casing us.
Theta, JV, and I were all Novice/Non-Consecutive, so was hoping that didn't get out too much.
Theta and I had roles that were kinda helpful, but not really, so it really was a matter of controlling day play.
Me testing out Gamma Ascetic claim helped tremendously, and I likely wouldn't have done that without getting the coffee/recruit on Bianco Day 1, so that is a swing that went in our favor.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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well, i would have faked it, but you were too trusting of meIn post 3380, Doctor Drew wrote:
Just had a thought, now I know when we don't fight in a game......you are scum lol.In post 3379, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i think thats what bianco did too. i think thats the nature of this setup because converts do have to protect the group scum.In post 3378, JacksonVirgo wrote: I had no clue what to do this game, didn’t fully catch up cuz that was intimidating and I didn’t want to step on the plans the main faction cult was doing so did the bare minimum I could think of
i imagine it doesn't feel good to be converted, though. I guess you came into the game like that, though.
Bianco did target both group scum members with their target, and i even hard defended what I thought was a Dan case about the 3 of us scum, but he was town casing us.
Theta, JV, and I were all Novice/Non-Consecutive, so was hoping that didn't get out too much.
Theta and I had roles that were kinda helpful, but not really, so it really was a matter of controlling day play.
Me testing out Gamma Ascetic claim helped tremendously, and I likely wouldn't have done that without getting the coffee/recruit on Bianco Day 1, so that is a swing that went in our favor.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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i tried to fake it, the Dan case was too strong, though lolCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Doctor Drew He/HimSurvivorHe/Him
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There was a nagging paranoia that you were pulling a fast one on us, but I kept doubting it as just that. Plus I was so tunneled on Dan I didn't have time to actually think about you lol.In post 3381, Flavor Leaf wrote:
well, i would have faked it, but you were too trusting of meIn post 3380, Doctor Drew wrote:
Just had a thought, now I know when we don't fight in a game......you are scum lol.In post 3379, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i think thats what bianco did too. i think thats the nature of this setup because converts do have to protect the group scum.In post 3378, JacksonVirgo wrote: I had no clue what to do this game, didn’t fully catch up cuz that was intimidating and I didn’t want to step on the plans the main faction cult was doing so did the bare minimum I could think of
i imagine it doesn't feel good to be converted, though. I guess you came into the game like that, though.
Bianco did target both group scum members with their target, and i even hard defended what I thought was a Dan case about the 3 of us scum, but he was town casing us.
Theta, JV, and I were all Novice/Non-Consecutive, so was hoping that didn't get out too much.
Theta and I had roles that were kinda helpful, but not really, so it really was a matter of controlling day play.
Me testing out Gamma Ascetic claim helped tremendously, and I likely wouldn't have done that without getting the coffee/recruit on Bianco Day 1, so that is a swing that went in our favor.
Apologies to Dan for that as well.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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Informed NK immune miller. i had to retract that the next couple phases, though, ofc, lolIn post 3367, Radical Rat wrote: Flavor is a damn good bullshitter, and though I was already onto Theta, I probably wouldn't have ever caught Flavor had I survived. My guy basically claimed NK immune miller and we all just believed him.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Doctor Drew He/HimSurvivorHe/Him
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Just curious why you two chose who to convert, and why in that order?In post 3384, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Informed NK immune miller. i had to retract that the next couple phases, though, ofc, lolIn post 3367, Radical Rat wrote: Flavor is a damn good bullshitter, and though I was already onto Theta, I probably wouldn't have ever caught Flavor had I survived. My guy basically claimed NK immune miller and we all just believed him.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I gave the name Nova. we got Nova.In post 3385, Doctor Drew wrote:
Just curious why you two chose who to convert, and why in that order?In post 3384, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Informed NK immune miller. i had to retract that the next couple phases, though, ofc, lolIn post 3367, Radical Rat wrote: Flavor is a damn good bullshitter, and though I was already onto Theta, I probably wouldn't have ever caught Flavor had I survived. My guy basically claimed NK immune miller and we all just believed him.
Gave the name Arden, got Arden.
Didnt get a N3 one.
Roden had claimed Lennox, so we went Lennox because I could warrant teaming up with Roden in thread, and he was starting to town read Dan, so didnt want to lose his vote.
You were chosen as the 'take them to win with us'.
So Roden was the only choice, and only one we knew 100%. And only kinda knew 100% because Roden started coming after me too, haha.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Doctor Drew He/HimSurvivorHe/Him
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The only reason you would convert me was when you knew you would win lol, but appreciated.In post 3386, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I gave the name Nova. we got Nova.In post 3385, Doctor Drew wrote:
Just curious why you two chose who to convert, and why in that order?In post 3384, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Informed NK immune miller. i had to retract that the next couple phases, though, ofc, lolIn post 3367, Radical Rat wrote: Flavor is a damn good bullshitter, and though I was already onto Theta, I probably wouldn't have ever caught Flavor had I survived. My guy basically claimed NK immune miller and we all just believed him.
Gave the name Arden, got Arden.
Didnt get a N3 one.
Roden had claimed Lennox, so we went Lennox because I could warrant teaming up with Roden in thread, and he was starting to town read Dan, so didnt want to lose his vote.
You were chosen as the 'take them to win with us'.
So Roden was the only choice, and only one we knew 100%. And only kinda knew 100% because Roden started coming after me too, haha.
Roden definitely had a tonal shift, seemed obv they were a convert.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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I think I've gotta stick to openish games for a while. This kinda thing is killing me. Just because it's got a bastard mechanic that doesn't mean the rest of it's got to be wack. NK's role is just a big middle finger to town- it's just straight up negative utility and thus drove everyone to the wrong PoE.
When scum gets to just give town information about how the damn game works and get away with it, it's probably a sign that town does not have enough information.
Without that damn FG misdirection, I maaaaaybe eventually start to consider Leaf? There were certainly points where I poked at the idea a little, but his play kept me from bothering to seriously try to disentangle whether all his roleclaim worked. I sort of realized that I didn't actually have a specifically strong reason to exclude him in my PoE notes right at the end there so I just went with "oh come on" and probably could've delved more into that in a world where it wasn't too late and people actually cared.-
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Maestro They/Them/AnyJack of All TradesThey/Them/Any
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yeah basically when it looked like FL was trying to fade me I wanted to make it appear to any sane person there was no way in fuck I looked like their convert partner lol-
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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I think if we hit a cult, conversion should have been blocked. We had a total of what three miseliminations the entire game and no infoShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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ActionDan He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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I do think the choice of culting drew was appropriateI'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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Doctor Drew He/HimSurvivorHe/Him
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Kinda was that if somehow the game continued I would have been such obvCult(even I wasn't recruited)In post 3391, ActionDan wrote: I do think the choice of culting drew was appropriate'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'actually ya drew is useless' - Snivy
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo-
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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I'll finish writing the victory flavour soon.-
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Or at least get something there.-
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Narration he/himGoonhe/him
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I'll release threads later today when I return home.
Sorry for forgetting to do so this morning.-
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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In post 3395, Narration wrote: I'll release threads later today when I return home.
Sorry for forgetting to do so this morning."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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I ended up busier than expected and forgot.
I promise I'll get them released once I get the time.-
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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all threads are released now!-
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RH9 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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i'll work on remaining flavour soon.
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