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[DarthPunk]

To summarize and make my point a little clearer, I generally find statements like "well don't take what I said too seriously" to be scummy.

I tend to agree in general. In this instance I was referencing specifically coming from a different site with a heavily cultivated metagame and finding it a bit jarring playing when I don’t understand others expectations and weird random shit is happening that I would usually not expect is going on.

[Dannflor]

to be specific i would like you to to spell out why you think that vote is terrible

How is it not?

Specifically, what is good about it and why did you make it?

I thought it was a little bit weird that outoforder took my original post about them seriously. I also found the "Im not too sure of anything yet" to be overly noncommittal

but I wanted to see what people would assume of my vote if I left out the explanation

[DarthPunk]

to be specific i would like you to to spell out why you think that vote is terrible

How is it not?

Specifically, what is good about it and why did you make it?

[DarthPunk]

Nvm ninja’s

[Vivax]

This is IML. As soon as a majority is reached, the lunch is served. Drumming for quick votes is more mafia indicative than town indicative. We don‘t have enough information.

Consider this a FoS on Dannflor.

Are you one of those "big on the acronyms" people :S

No, just big on the fingers

[Luca Blight]

to be specific i would like you to to spell out why you think that vote is terrible

How is it not?

Specifically, what is good about it and why did you make it?

I thought it was a little bit weird that outoforder took my original post about them seriously.

I also found the "Im not too sure of anything yet" to be overly noncommittal

but I wanted to see what people would assume of my vote if I left out the explanation

Do you think it's scummy that they didn't get your joke?

[DarthPunk]

to be specific i would like you to to spell out why you think that vote is terrible

How is it not?

Specifically, what is good about it and why did you make it?

I thought it was a little bit weird that outoforder took my original post about them seriously. I also found the "Im not too sure of anything yet" to be overly noncommittal

but I wanted to see what people would assume of my vote if I left out the explanation

Why would anyone not take your post seriously? It’s the internet, humour needs to be a little of obvious, particularly when it’s not funny.

It’s the start of day one, isn’t this the time of any
To not necessarily hard commit to things?

[Dannflor]

Do you think it's scummy that they didn't get your joke?

i think it can be. there was an MD thread about this awhile back and generally I've found scum are more likely to take things overly seriously than not.

that being said, it might simply be a case of me not making my parody clear enough, outoforder having a more serious personality, or the worst case scenario... i just wasn't funny.

[Dannflor]

It’s the start of day one, isn’t this the time of any
To not necessarily hard commit to things?

you seem to have the idea that voting somewhere equal a hard commit

[Vivax]

This is IML. As soon as a majority is reached, the lunch is served. Drumming for quick votes is more mafia indicative than town indicative. We don‘t have enough information.

Consider this a FoS on Dannflor.

now, why isn't this a vote instead of an FoS

This was dann’s best post imo

I’m bothered by all the other stuff but maybe that is normal here?

I’m trying to be a bit careful not to jump all over someone for not meeting my high expectations.

This feels a little all over the place. The "this was their best post" already tripped my wires since the game is, like, 3 pages old. That's like saying the second verse of the first song of Taylor Swift's new album is the best part of the album while you're listening to it for the first time ever.

But then there's an attempted takesies-backsies with the "I'm trying to be careful" thing. If you want to be careful, it seems like a first sensible step would be to not try and summarize such a small sample size of material.

I don`t even think it´s a good post so I´d disagree with DP. What´s townie about wanting to force a vote on yourself? If everybody played like that we`d never find mafia.

In the eventuality that Dann flipped mafia it would give room for the interpretation that I was partnered with Dann though. So if anything , it makes Dann look worse.

[Dannflor]

vivax is there a reason you didn't explain random voting stage to your friend

[Luca Blight]

Do you think it's scummy that they didn't get your joke?

i think it can be. there was an MD thread about this awhile back and generally I've found scum are more likely to take things overly seriously than not.

that being said, it might simply be a case of me not making my parody clear enough, outoforder having a more serious personality, or the worst case scenario... i just wasn't funny.

It seemed like townie paranoia to me, and i quite liked outoforder's entrance which also displayed a bit of humour.

[Vivax]

VOTE: Dannflor

All things considered, seems like the best vote to me currently.
I´m a bit wary of superflousnjnja´s way of interceding between Dann and DP here, felt like a very safe entrance to make.

[DarthPunk]

He had a good opener and correctly pointed out Luca’s good post.

He has done nothing to make himself a good lynch candidate.

Additionally at the start you said you didn’t want to lynch him due to wanting to specifically play with him then You voted for him after being called out for creating an association.

a. why is Luca's post towny?

b. i didn't say i wanted to eliminate him. my vote could have been for any number of reasons.

c. 21 was a joke playing off of your 14, which i thought was pretty funny since no one actually believes vivax would get eliminated based off two page 1 random votes. nonetheless, my vote was not because they "called me out for creating an association" (what exactly would be the benefit of me doing that anyway?)

A.)His post was good because I think it was an insightful analysis of your play up to that point, it showed he was reading and thinking about the game and trying to draw conclusions.(and it was one I happened to agree with)

B.) I don’t even know how to engage with you if we can’t even agree that the person being voted for is the person you currently want eliminated. Like obviously you can vote for pressure , but the vote loses all meaning (including pressure) if you can’t take at face value that a vote means you want to eliminate that person.

C. I don’t think it’s that important but your joke was not clear and the fact you acted to vote the person who just raised it was surface level scummy

[Vivax]

vivax is there a reason you didn't explain random voting stage to your friend

I don´t view myself as above DP, we´re used to doing things differently. I like having him around cause he´s good at keeping my sanity in check, and I just pretend to be his angry chihuahua.

We´re past RVS now. If RVS was an issue, it´d be an issue for Roden as well. So that´s not the point of discussion we should be having in my opinion.

[DarthPunk]

It’s the start of day one, isn’t this the time of any
To not necessarily hard commit to things?

you seem to have the idea that voting somewhere equal a hard commit

I’m of the idea that voting someone means you want to elim them otherwise what is the point? Pressure votes are not pressure votes without something real behind it.

[Dannflor]

think we'll probably not end up agreeing on that particular point of mafia philosophy

[DarthPunk]

If Random voting is some part of the metagame here then that is the most absurd thing I have ever heard.

[Dannflor]

it's kinda wild to me that it's not some places tbh

[Luca Blight]

Random voting is done nearly every game here, but when it becomes accepted as a matter of course then it loses relevance.

[DarthPunk]

it's kinda wild to me that it's not some places tbh

I hearby invite you to the next game on tl.

You can still see the light.

It’s not too late.

[Dannflor]

UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town

[SuperfluousNinja]

VOTE: Dannflor

All things considered, seems like the best vote to me currently.
I´m a bit wary of superflousnjnja´s way of interceding between Dann and DP here, felt like a very safe entrance to make.

I don't really follow this logic. What is safe about taking a side in an ongoing conflict at this stage?

[Luca Blight]

UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town

If you did it for a reaction, why not wait for outoforder's reaction?

[Luca Blight]

I'm finding Vivax's logic hard to follow in general.