Kemusan - Game Over

[Gypyx]

hyello everyone

[Gypyx]

LLD i don't exactly think is scum i think i probably won't be actually trying to sort her yet but she did this kind of highposting vibing as scum in PYP and i had a similar wary feeling about some things there. and i don't really love the std read

you don't even know what the std read is about lol

also I had planned to play this game high regardless of alignment becUss I wanted to play with my friends and not get frustrated at how cliquish dance games get so im here to be like, chill and solve

i can explain std stinky but it probably wont make sense to you unless you open your mind

being chill and solving is good

my mind is very open you can explain if you want

i think rh9 and std are both lightly towny so far fwiw

okay so like, follow me here

i draw town, sadge.png

i think "okay but what if i think like scum would and try to mind meld with the thread and if anyone mind melds me then STINKY"

i see FB, scum instinct says "call them town to position myself for later", STD does it.

stinky

then i see firered, fire AND fire. posting anime gifs.

"call both fires town for memetic value and get in on the take early so people value you as having called it, more positional value"

STD does it

STINKY

RH9 also does it, but sounds worse doing it

MEGA STINKY

could you elaborate on your scum instinct telling you to TR FB? like, haven't looked at STD's post but i'd like to know why it would be a scum thing

[Gypyx]

hyello everyone

hi!
any preliminary thoughts on the game?

I was afraid of rolling scum

i haven't rolled scum

all is well

[Gypyx]

cabd also not passing the vibe check to me but i have even less baseline there and also probably extenuating circumstances

Kinda agree, i don't think it's necessarily scum but it just doesn't feel like regular town solviness he like, mostly seems interested about giving out his opinions but he doesn't have a lot of them?

[Gypyx]

My personal win condition is very similar but leave Ydra behind. I’m going to be honest, it’s not looking too well.

Doomed from the start, there are less ladies than gents so all the ladies get paired this day phase.

As I said, it ain’t looking too well.

not if we make this a transgender danse so that people may switch sides during pair selection

[Gypyx]

if you don't have a game you're so traumatized about that you named an account after it have you really played mafia?

[Gypyx]

otherwise skimming through what already happened and i'm really vibing with fireis

[Gypyx]

Hi fam, great news!

I rolled town this game so I don’t have to live these next few weeks in a constant state of debilitating anxiety! Don’t we love that for me?

i belive you with all my heart spiffeh

[Gypyx]

Sure was ! honestly pretty pumped about playing with all there peoples i'm rarely seeing

you might've noticed some changes above my avatar

i'm also still as bad at mafia as i was previously so don't worry about this one

[Gypyx]

explain yourself on cabd NOW

[Gypyx]

explain yourself on cabd NOW

Ara, caught your interest, perhaps?

yea

think he's got a dirty red role PM

pedit : eh i mean, if he came back with the intent to dance with one of his buddies i could see it? He might also simply feel coerced into doing it, like "hey cabd why are you so shy about dancing with me"

granted maybe i'm overevaluating how ffery / cabd would naturally want to pair themselves, i'm not really up to date on the mafiascum social hierarchy

[Gypyx]

I'm curious how Gypyx's scum game has evolved since 2021.

1 year hiatus

[Gypyx]

Spiffeh that is a surprising amount of sync. Reminds me of WH13.

At this table who among the gents do you think aren't easily manipulable by a hypothetical scum LLD?

or we could do an LLD+scummy gent pair that way it will absolutely be doable to get them out?

are scum/scum pairs bad for town?

[Gypyx]

Spiffeh that is a surprising amount of sync. Reminds me of WH13.

At this table who among the gents do you think aren't easily manipulable by a hypothetical scum LLD?

or we could do an LLD+scummy gent pair that way it will absolutely be doable to get them out?

are scum/scum pairs bad for town?

I think they were tried in a couple of early dance games and were worse for scum than town. But I wasn't paying close attention when this design was new and novel.

only problem with a scumpair is that either we vote it out day 1 or we need 2 town pairs to both be alive and recognize the scumpair is a scumpair in day 2

[Gypyx]

You funny. I’ve been posting here since like 3 am in the morning.

isn't the "m" in "am" morning?

[Gypyx]

I guess this is what I get for going to bed.

Also this is my first dance…be nice to me.

kinda wanna murder you with a flail

[Gypyx]

You funny. I’ve been posting here since like 3 am in the morning.

isn't the "m" in "am" morning?

No. Meridian. Ante and Post

listening and learning

[Gypyx]

I’d pair with LLD, I think she’s town. But I’m not a powerhouse if I don’t have a right hand to bounce things off of.

Cabd is pretty town too and I’ve only read one Cabd post.

Bell/fb prob town by extension.

wdym "by extension"?

[Gypyx]

feeling bad about RCE but i can't put my finger on why

[Gypyx]

You funny. I’ve been posting here since like 3 am in the morning.

isn't the "m" in "am" morning?

just curious

what did you think pm stood for

pre-morning? *laugh track plays*

[Gypyx]

Oh man I am gonna have a hard time getting into this game today
Tomorrow should be better
Someone ask me out <3

cakez i think ur cute

but alas

we were not meant to be

[Gypyx]

It’s a secret.

why make it secret exactly

[Gypyx]

Spiffeh is... Town......?

towny words from the wizard mercenary, i'm not sure if spiffeh is actually town but my head is kinda fried so that probably doesn't help

[Gypyx]

You do sound more natural this game gyphx, hi. By the way.

while i appreciate it it's also been like 1 year since last time so i've maybe changed a bit, idk, just saying

hello, feels good to see this side of mafiascum again

[Gypyx]

Wait, we have a "side" of mafiascum now?

I missed this memo.

idk it certainely feels like there's a side that lays dormant, waiting for a once in a blue moon to join a large theme and make it the most banger game ever

i know you're not allowed to talk about your secret society, it's ok

[Gypyx]

i wanna pair with someone who likes to talk a lot

[Gypyx]

I saw it in the tea leaves when the /ins hit the signup thread.

did the tea leaves say anything about a 10 euro bill? i lost one yesterday

[Gypyx]

Would 10 euros buy you a trad double cappuccino? If so, you have my deepest condolences.

sorry i don't speak starbucks

[Gypyx]

Heh!

I thought he meant the mishmash/social game side of the site.

she / her pls

[Gypyx]

Heh!

I thought he meant the mishmash/social game side of the site.

she / her pls

I'm sorry, Gypyx. Very, very noted.

don't worry too much about it, it's cool

[Gypyx]

Ff is transparently town?

Yeah, you’ll catch up eventually

Ngl, I might single handedly lose this game on this FF tunnel. I haz regrets about giving ff too much rope.
I kind of think all three of us do.

ff beign fferyllt right ? i'm having doubts

[Gypyx]

looks like you're having trouble getting your head into this game RH

[Gypyx]

what do you mean i "might be" lol

[Gypyx]

i'm either right or i'm not, what's the idea

[Gypyx]

p-edit: because she's ic?

And why do you want to pair with the IC?

because i know i can trust her and we could potentially solve the game together in the dance pt?

Is she good at reading you?

i have no idea tbh but i think she knows me well enough that she could.

Why would mafia panick accept when the gents are the ones who are in danger rn?

[Gypyx]

lady mafia*

[Gypyx]

Of the unpaired gents so far, I'd most like to see Spiffeh, LavorManos and STD paired.

RCE and Fireisred at the bottom. I don't know what to do with RH9.

im a lady!

why do you townread spiffeh?

Extreme mind meld last night a la the first and so far only towngame I think I've played with Spiffeh is where it started. His ISO feels so pure. Which is not a word I use to describe my reads, but it applies here.

What are you trying to accomplish in this discussion?

the confidence with which some people are throwing out townreads off fairly shallow things is very disconcerting to me (i think probably partly a playstyle difference idk. different generations and all) and i happened to be already responding to you so i was curious if there was any more depth to the read that i was missing or some player meta knowledge due to familiarity you may have

i think the you/spiffeh thread is interesting but moreso from the other direction. i wanted to get a clearer understanding of it from this angle regardless though

im probably more interested in knowing why skitter townreads him since her entrance thoughts aligned with mine in a lot of ways but thats one place we differ

let people express reads maybe ? i doubt she would just put spiffeh as town and then never reevaluate ever

[Gypyx]

wait why the fuck did i quote the wrong post

[Gypyx]

go back to sleep RH9 i know you're still reading the thread

[Gypyx]

I think the easiest way to read sircakez is to see if they make it to elo and then, if they vote wrong, they’re town.

but how would you know if he's wrong without flipping the person he's accusing

checkmate my friend

[Gypyx]

honestly think HST is town for doing this weird thing where she talks about her reads without giving any names

[Gypyx]

honestly think HST is town for doing this weird thing where she talks about her reads without giving any names

That’s probably idiosyncratic behavior rather than a measure in alignment. Could be right for the wrong reasons tho. I should probably go check if hst has any scum games.

oh hey a new word

good argument actually i kinda just assumed this was a 1 time thing for this game, gonna check too

[Gypyx]

damn bell beat me to it

well i'm not sold on this being scum indicate partly cause fuck meta reads and partly cause since there's a lack of scumgames we can't really assume that's how scum!HST would look but i certainely would like her to elaborate as to the how and why then

[Gypyx]

wait holy shit dayvig was normal in 2017?

sorely dissapointed i've missed this golden age

[Gypyx]

Honestly you can take your pick of gyphx, RH, enchant, fireisred or STD.

They’re all exasperating in their own way.

[Gypyx]

Something feels wrong with this interaction.
But I can’t place my finger on it.

kinda recovering from crippling sadness by trying to cheer myself up and stuff, think that's what you're seeing

[Gypyx]

Honestly you can take your pick of gyphx, RH, enchant, fireisred or STD.

idt this is how the setup works?

it's how if you're a coward who wants approval from everyone

Spiffeh let's dance

think this is a good hood for us both

[Gypyx]

Honestly you can take your pick of gyphx, RH, enchant, fireisred or STD.

They’re all exasperating in their own way.

oof

[Gypyx]

Something feels wrong with this interaction.
But I can’t place my finger on it.

kinda recovering from crippling sadness by trying to cheer myself up and stuff, think that's what you're seeing

I see.
Internet hugs.
I’m not the best player to cheer someone up due to the dysthymia, own feelings of precariousness, and my general policy that everything that is said during a game of mafia has to do with mafia.

i mean, in some way it always is right? i'll agree with that, just think lighthearted chatter has it's place too if that's what you're doing against

it's fine also, not asking you to be a therapist or anything right now, just wanna talk with people

[Gypyx]

Sure.
I'm just letting you know my boundaries and it can be exasperating to talk with me, because I'm thinking thoughts such as I wonder if gyphx is utilizing this angle, the same way, that, for example, Guiltylion might. I.e., asking for sympathy.
and while I often think this kind of openness can be AI, I also tend to go on the wrong side of it because I tend to be sympathetic and consider things like whether a player would "cross" certain boundaries or whether their own sense of ethics would stop them (and for the most part, I've always been wrong because those lines get crossed and you get surprised and in retrospect, thinking about it from the sense that it is always game time, seems to be decent at correcting for these past experiences and mistakes).

It's too bad Dunn isn't in this game.

yeah no that's cool

we can talk game too if you wanna, i'm open

[Gypyx]

Sure, sorry if someone asked you this already, but what do you think of Skitter and FireisRed?
They seem like the most readable people right now from the simple angle of posting density, but I'm bouncing off their posts when I try to read them.

Gonna be real with you i really didn't think about skitter's alignement yet, there's this weird mental block when i'm just unenthusiastic when getting to her

as for fireis i've got an accumulation of small townpings on them but i'm kinda waiting for her to answer my last thing cause i think that'll allow me to really get an idea of her mindset

[Gypyx]

for reference :

Of the unpaired gents so far, I'd most like to see Spiffeh, LavorManos and STD paired.

RCE and Fireisred at the bottom. I don't know what to do with RH9.

im a lady!

why do you townread spiffeh?

Extreme mind meld last night a la the first and so far only towngame I think I've played with Spiffeh is where it started. His ISO feels so pure. Which is not a word I use to describe my reads, but it applies here.

What are you trying to accomplish in this discussion?

the confidence with which some people are throwing out townreads off fairly shallow things is very disconcerting to me (i think probably partly a playstyle difference idk. different generations and all) and i happened to be already responding to you so i was curious if there was any more depth to the read that i was missing or some player meta knowledge due to familiarity you may have

i think the you/spiffeh thread is interesting but moreso from the other direction. i wanted to get a clearer understanding of it from this angle regardless though

im probably more interested in knowing why skitter townreads him since her entrance thoughts aligned with mine in a lot of ways but thats one place we differ

let people express reads maybe ? i doubt she would just put spiffeh as town and then never reevaluate ever

[Gypyx]

lotta posts and some thoughts, i think i need to cool my head before being able to make sense but i kinda wanna scrutinize StD

Firebringer has truly run the gamut for me this game and is back to a pretty solid town read, mostly because of his interaction with LLD. I also felt his explanation for his ffery scum read without being asked feels like a townie who thinks he's right and trying to get people to see his perspective. I would expect scum!FB to lean more into his trolly, unhelpful nature as it takes a lot less effort to fake that, but his transition into really fighting to have ffery on everyone's radar was comforting to me.

Cabd's post accepting ffery's dance proposal is probably his towniest its and at this point I don't think scum!Cabd would so confidently vocalize his plan to leave before Intermission if he was just going to back out of it later.

SirCakez's posts were not great but I also think Cakez would try harder to seem town if he were scum? He definitely needs to contribute more substantially at the caliber in which is he is capable because a ffery scum read and a couple of maybe town reads aren't cutting it.

Catching up I was between inviting Gypyx and skitter to be my dance partner, but feel I could be more valuable at sorting Gypyx in a hood than I would skitter. Skitter is probably more capable of meeting my expectations as scum, and while I have only played one game with scum!Gypyx over two years ago, I have some level of confidence that I can sort her in a one on one setting (even though I hate neighborhoods).

Gypyx, may I have this dance?

I accept this dance spiffeh, or something idk i didn't read the setup

[Gypyx]

meow

[Gypyx]

Do scum ever try to form svs pairs in this setup?

unless it's deepscum i guess since like, it's not like there's so many nightkills for their prologed survival to get suspicious

[Gypyx]

Sure, sorry if someone asked you this already, but what do you think of Skitter and FireisRed?
They seem like the most readable people right now from the simple angle of posting density, but I'm bouncing off their posts when I try to read them.

Gonna be real with you i really didn't think about skitter's alignement yet, there's this weird mental block when i'm just unenthusiastic when getting to her

as for fireis i've got an accumulation of small townpings on them but i'm kinda waiting for her to answer my last thing cause i think that'll allow me to really get an idea of her mindset

i was kind of annoyed by it tbh but maybe i read hostility into it that wasn't intended. it's possible im doing that a lot this game i dunno

i don't really know what to say about it anyway though. i wasn't saying she isn't allowed to townread spiffeh. i just wanted her to talk more about it because 1) if she's town im interested in hearing her thoughts because she knows spiffeh better than i do and 2) if she's scum i think it's useful to have more detailed thoughts on record and 3) what she says may help me determine her alignment. it's fine i guess if she doesn't want to explain her reads. it seems like she wants to be left alone for now. idk. the thing i said about people townreading others weirdly easily wasn't especially about her

i'm sorry, the rudeness was me kinda lashing out at you, this was uncalled for

ok that's fair i just misunderstood you point, think your reaction is towny

once again sorry

[Gypyx]

No, but it does make me think that if she's mafia, her support staff is also the kind that went silent recently, which is pretty much exactly one of {LLD, STD}.

The hurry up and pair then peace out thing seems a little too on the nose to be a scum response to gaining a pairing, but I don't know how many other people subscribe to my state decay theory of the game.

honestly i'm going silent kinda cause i'm not really at the best of my mafia playing capabilities rn but also i've got a dance partner i'm happy about and i trust that'll allow me to catch up on that break i'm allowing myself

also like not to WIFOM it too much but remember that as scum i'd be aware that the burden sits on me to keep efforting away

pedit : oh wait you're TR'ing me? am confused

[Gypyx]

aaah gotcha

[Gypyx]

i've been assaulted with visions of a Skitter / STD s/s pair

i maybe should read

pedit : skitter's last post sounds unpartnered actually

[Gypyx]

I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?

I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now

[Gypyx]

We can just call you mafia every game until you roll mafia

Shit. You're right.

Quick, everyone lock in an officially official guess as to mine and ffery's alignments, no take-backsies. Accuracy will be graded postgame.

Or in the dead thread roast.

Town/Scum with you as the scum

[Gypyx]

I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?

I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now

How it's related

The only difference between being left / exed is that one is popular vote and the other is the choice of 1 person except they get influence by popular opinion too

[Gypyx]

I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?

I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now

How it's related

The only difference between being left / exed is that one is popular vote and the other is the choice of 1 person except they get influence by popular opinion too

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh reread my question

i think it's pretty widespread consensus that scum is generally more concerned about survivability than town, even if town can get concerned about it?

[Gypyx]

I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?

I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now

How it's related

The only difference between being left / exed is that one is popular vote and the other is the choice of 1 person except they get influence by popular opinion too

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh reread my question

i think it's pretty widespread consensus that scum is generally more concerned about survivability than town, even if town can get concerned about it?

Sounds like bias

[Gypyx]

i see.
tbh i can see a world where scum!you has partners that are in a good position rn and you not getting paired isn't that bad for them but in that world, i'm misreading at least one person as town.

might be reaching here but this feels like pretty weird logic from RH9 when RCE's buddies not jumping to his defense isn't necessarily indicate of their position in the social hierarchy of this game

just sounds like an excuse to reevaluate his townreads if RCE flips scum today

[Gypyx]

I wanna leave Lavar out. With ECe a close second.

Inexplicably I want enchant to live.

swap RC and Lavar for me

[Gypyx]

take out the in inexplicably

actually write a whole new post you know what

[Gypyx]

yeah that, good post

[Gypyx]

This is all my fault sorry

[Gypyx]

LEAVE THE DANCE

Gypyx wins twenty internet points.

The rest of you suck.

Yay

[Gypyx]

spiffeh we have the opportunity to do the funniest shit

[Gypyx]

Yo indeed

[Gypyx]

Likw i don't think that was lol-leaving from enchant

I wouldn't put it past enchant to do that lol leave without a plan.

But yes leaning to that scum wanted to get rid of IC pair early, even though I don't think Ydra/RH9 is much of a threat (no offense to both)

maybe it's just cause Ydra hasn't been around much? like, silence her before she can speak sorta deal

[Gypyx]

me and LLD talked about who should be the final pair, because we only need one strong town pair to win the game.

I argued about HST/Bell - she was hesitant on HST.
I think she believes Spiffeh/Gypyx is the town pair for us to trust.
She can correct me on anything im saying wrong here

the pressure

for the record while i'm not actively doubtful of spiffeh i'm a bit wary in that he wasn't really bleeding town feelings to me in the hood

[Gypyx]

i think all this talk of cabd "entrusting" the game to someone is pretty weird when in reality it's not like he sacrificed an advantageous position to do what he did, like most people viewed his pair as having 1 scum anyways

enchant meanwhile was maybe somewhat deeper but also not the kind of player who's gonna *do* a lot of stuff

[Gypyx]

i think all this talk of cabd "entrusting" the game to someone is pretty weird when in reality it's not like he sacrificed an advantageous position to do what he did, like most people viewed his pair as having 1 scum anyways

enchant meanwhile was maybe somewhat deeper but also not the kind of player who's gonna *do* a lot of stuff

You are WILD if you think this hasn't been Cabd's plan since fucking page 10 when he was getting mostly townreads and Ffery was being crucified.

Cabd would have avoided a Ffery pairing by calling her Scum and buried her in the fucking dirt if he wantes to try and play for long game. This was a Con.

i mean, wild is maybe a bit of an exagerration but i don't see how this necessarily indicates he was instaleaving? like, as some people said (and i'm mostly reffering to other people's arguments here) he was very much expected to pair up with ffery, and even if he could go on someone else, i might be misundersteanding, but why not take the best out of both worlds and badmouth ffery into being left alone (so that he may try to pair up with someone who would be more interesting to force to leave) / pairing with a scum who is fine dying and executing his double leaving maneuver with him

[Gypyx]

And yeah I get one shot to find a scum and I only reload if I get a headshot so I might be a little insufferable for a bit with thread presence and sounding like I run shit. Apologies in advance to everyone else.

i love you regardless <3

[Gypyx]

i think all this talk of cabd "entrusting" the game to someone is pretty weird when in reality it's not like he sacrificed an advantageous position to do what he did, like most people viewed his pair as having 1 scum anyways

enchant meanwhile was maybe somewhat deeper but also not the kind of player who's gonna *do* a lot of stuff

You are WILD if you think this hasn't been Cabd's plan since fucking page 10 when he was getting mostly townreads and Ffery was being crucified.

Cabd would have avoided a Ffery pairing by calling her Scum and buried her in the fucking dirt if he wantes to try and play for long game. This was a Con.

i mean, wild is maybe a bit of an exagerration but i don't see how this necessarily indicates he was instaleaving? like, as some people said (and i'm mostly reffering to other people's arguments here) he was very much expected to pair up with ffery, and even if he could go on someone else, i might be misundersteanding, but why not take the best out of both worlds and badmouth ffery into being left alone (so that he may try to pair up with someone who would be more interesting to force to leave) / pairing with a scum who is fine dying and executing his double leaving maneuver with him

This is again because you don't know Cabd like I do. This is one of my best friends. The only player in this lobby who knows Cabd better is Ffery. When I Saw what he was gonna do I freaked. I was hopinh being quiet about it would buy Ffery time.

Like, hell HST saw it too.

This was calculated and intentional. This was a weaponized attack against town and Cabd "using his life for maximum value".

That is in fucking quotation marks because I can hear my boy fucking saying thos exact words.

i see, well idk, guess i'll trust you on that one while trying to keep a tab on things ig

[Gypyx]

i think all this talk of cabd "entrusting" the game to someone is pretty weird when in reality it's not like he sacrificed an advantageous position to do what he did, like most people viewed his pair as having 1 scum anyways

enchant meanwhile was maybe somewhat deeper but also not the kind of player who's gonna *do* a lot of stuff

You are WILD if you think this hasn't been Cabd's plan since fucking page 10 when he was getting mostly townreads and Ffery was being crucified.

Cabd would have avoided a Ffery pairing by calling her Scum and buried her in the fucking dirt if he wantes to try and play for long game. This was a Con.

i mean, wild is maybe a bit of an exagerration but i don't see how this necessarily indicates he was instaleaving? like, as some people said (and i'm mostly reffering to other people's arguments here) he was very much expected to pair up with ffery, and even if he could go on someone else, i might be misundersteanding, but why not take the best out of both worlds and badmouth ffery into being left alone (so that he may try to pair up with someone who would be more interesting to force to leave) / pairing with a scum who is fine dying and executing his double leaving maneuver with him

The fact rhat he had no content for like 5 irl days beyond gems like 'spiffeh and gypyx are the towniest pair in the game' and 'lavar manos scumslipped' also make me think this was planned ...

actually i'm convinced let's goooo

[Gypyx]

Ok so about Gypyx

Gun to my head I still think she's town, BUT paranoia is setting in with me for several reasons and maybe she will be able to address these concerns here in front of everyone AND I can get some feedback on how others are feeling about her currently.

She says in the thread early on that she wants to pair with someone who talks a lot, implying that she would be super active in the neighborhood when it was unlocked, but then chooses to take a break from the game right when Intermission starts (she told me she needed a break at the start of Intermission). To be fair, she still answered my questions and provided insights of her own, and Intermission was shorter than I thought it would be, but she did not contribute to the level I expected based on her early comments. She was largely inactive for the last half of the day so what exactly did she need to take a break from?

Also, of all the players capable of coaching Gypyx and urging her to be active, Cabd was the one I was most worried about flipping scum. He (and LLD) took the reigns in Tenet when Gypyx wanted our scum team to review her posts and I can see him coaching her in the same way here. And since scum clearly meticulously planned out their actions ahead of time based on how First Dance went down, I'm also a bit skeptical about her Cabd scum read that came out of nowhere early on. My paranoid mind reads it as a ploy to make her look even better when Cabd inevitably flipped.

On the other hand, given how planned out the scum team's actions felt in First Dance, I would expect Cabd would have left specific instructions to interact with me enough to make me feel comfortable to not leave the dance. So the other part of me thinks scum!Gypyx would have provided a TON of content in the neighborhood. Especially since I had already outright stated that I town read her when she's naturally active and that was fading as the day was ending.

So I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts on Gypyx.

yeah like, honestly i started this game with some high enthusiasm and shit, but around ~3 days in a very exhausting ELo hit into a game i was also playing at the time, it burned a lot of my mafia energy and i'm still feeling the effects right now (link if you wanna check, careful, i'm very quickly insufferable) viewtopic.php?t=92212

i honestly kinda agree that my cabd scumread sounds like too much info but like, i kinda did jackshit with it, and i think if this was a plan, he would've urged me to do more than "uh yeah cabd scum anyways *leaves thread*"

[Gypyx]

to be lesss serious for a minute

i am thinking of what to eat today

chinese food (panda) or Pizza (pizza hut)

I need this dance to decide for me

never ate at any of them, so i'll tell you panda exress

[Gypyx]

maybe scum plans with mass leave was just to encourage town to do the same or make us goose hunting for a deep wolf

so like, what are we confident on if everything is possible

[Gypyx]

Um I fucked up that quote somehow

@Gypyx I'm curious what exactly you expected of me in the neighborhood and what I didn't deliver on? Did you have "bleeding town" feelings of me before Intermission?

i tried to avoid forming expectations to like, not bias myself into anything but basically my main gripe is that it felt you were agreeing with me very easily, of course this might just be cuz i'm saying sensible stuff but that's also how scum!you would act with 2 of his buddies dead and me not needing to be antagonized i think

a lot of it is probably my fault due to like, choosing to walk away from things though, i'll admit that much

[Gypyx]

I need to talk to Gyphx. About how they show their town.

I kind of need them to do so, since I feel pretty comfortable with town binning Spiff.

yes hello hi Gyphx here

[Gypyx]

actually sorry if i missed it somewhere but is there any point where you go over stuff that you did that makes you distinctivly town? apart from the enchant counterpush, i hear that one

[Gypyx]

that was @LLD

[Gypyx]

Oh I meant to hit preview not submit

That’s what I get for trying to enter format something outside of PT but goddamn purple background and black text hurts my eyes especially when I’m on my phone

Enjoy my unformatted, unfiltered garble I guess

not buying it

[Gypyx]

Is there an intermission after X players alive in second dance? Or can people just leave whenever?

no inter

[Gypyx]

Is there an intermission after X players alive in second dance? Or can people just leave whenever?

no inter

*shakes Gyphx*
Brain dump every thought you’ve ever had in this game or about this game.

i mean, sure but it's probably be very unorganized and also i work better if you give me something to work off of

i think STD's tone has been weird all game long and how one of his only "passionate" actions was arguing with ffery about her scuminess isn't a good look now that cabd has flipped red

as i've said before, spiffeh kinda weird me out but i'm honestly not feeling like distrusting him right now, i'm good with just using the early townpings i had on him

LLD is scary but also i wanna trust her, skitter is weird and i don't wanna trust her

HST's big "oops that was meant for hood" post strikes me as a weird thing to do since idk how you accidentally publish that, especially since it feels like the intro was more meant to talk to the game thread as a whole? idk, it sounds very contrived

fire is probably never scum given how he's approaching things and stuff

RCE i find him scummy but also i think that if he was indeed mafia it would've been him that went and leaves the game rather than enchant, of course enchant could maybe want to do it for the lolz but don't think cabd would've allowed it

kinda regret not acting more during pairing phase but also idk i have a strong enough voice to compete with everyone else anyways, especially about my cabd SR but like being mean to people is scary

cakez is a big and mysterious black box and i honestly forget that he's in the game like half the time

i really should have paid more attention to things cause that's like the third time i misundersteand something in the setup

everything that comes to mind like right now

[Gypyx]

can't belive RCE has become unable to read

[Gypyx]

LLD is scary but also i wanna trust her

actually sorry if i missed it somewhere but is there any point where you go over stuff that you did that makes you distinctivly town? apart from the enchant counterpush, i hear that one

These two do not look like they share a same mindset though

i feel like it really illustrates it? could you develop?

[Gypyx]

Also

HST's big "oops that was meant for hood" post strikes me as a weird thing to do since idk how you accidentally publish that, especially since it feels like the intro was more meant to talk to the game thread as a whole? idk, it sounds very contrived

You fatfinger “Submit” instead of “Preview.”

y are you previewing unsorted and unformatted thoughts

[Gypyx]

LLD is scary but also i wanna trust her

actually sorry if i missed it somewhere but is there any point where you go over stuff that you did that makes you distinctivly town? apart from the enchant counterpush, i hear that one

These two do not look like they share a same mindset though

i feel like it really illustrates it? could you develop?

Former suggests you wish LLD to be town. “Why are you town” is one of the posterity question and just doesn’t seem like a question that comes from the mindset you described.

i honestly don't understeand how you're seeing this

[Gypyx]

Also

HST's big "oops that was meant for hood" post strikes me as a weird thing to do since idk how you accidentally publish that, especially since it feels like the intro was more meant to talk to the game thread as a whole? idk, it sounds very contrived

You fatfinger “Submit” instead of “Preview.”

y are you previewing unsorted and unformatted thoughts

Oh I meant to hit preview not submit

That’s what I get for trying to enter format something

outside of PT but goddamn purple background and black text hurts my eyes especially when I’m on my phone

Enjoy my unformatted, unfiltered garble I guess

Because I was trying to format my garble so I have easier time reading it later. I accidentally clicked submit before I could finish doing so, so it is now unformatted. You see how the first few paragraphs are separated and the rest are all stuck together? Yeah.

oh ok my bad

[Gypyx]

LLD is scary but also i wanna trust her

actually sorry if i missed it somewhere but is there any point where you go over stuff that you did that makes you distinctivly town? apart from the enchant counterpush, i hear that one

These two do not look like they share a same mindset though

i feel like it really illustrates it? could you develop?

Former suggests you wish LLD to be town. “Why are you town” is one of the posterity question and just doesn’t seem like a question that comes from the mindset you described.

i honestly don't understeand how you're seeing this

What kind of answer did you expect to get when you asked her why she is town?

something to ease off my paranoia

[Gypyx]

bell if i could hit a "townspew" button on command i think i would do it

like shit, tf you want me to say? i just don't have it, sorry

i assume you're looking for something in specific or something but like it's very annoying to face from my POV and the thoughts just aren't comming

[Gypyx]

bell if i could hit a "townspew" button on command i think i would do it

like shit, tf you want me to say? i just don't have it, sorry

i assume you're looking for something in specific or something but like it's very annoying to face from my POV and the thoughts just aren't comming

Sigh, nothing is ever easy. I’m largely looking for an HST post, like the one you called fake.

yeah sorry not gonna happen, i'm not able to ramble on like they did

[Gypyx]

Why aren’t you able to ramble on like HST did?

i've always been bad at writing big posts, unless i have a very specific purpose for it in mind, which isn't really it right now

and no "getting townread" isn't really specific lol

my lack of direct investment in the game probably wouldn't help in the event i tried it too

[Gypyx]

ummmm... ok?????? like what, if you're not obvtown you're not allowed to have reads now

like sure i guess i'll just sheep people's reads, that will clear me just fine

[Gypyx]

i don't think she's scum, i saw an icky post and pointed it out

if anything i lean more town

[Gypyx]

Why do you lean more town after their icky post?

i think their overall posting was pretty genuine and like, since (hence why i was wary of this post in the first place, this seemed a little too on the nose in terms of showing their genuieness) there's also her weird thing of not giving details on their reads that they did early, which i think is something that scum would feel adverse to trying

[Gypyx]

Can everyone provide a list (top 4) strongest town reads. I want to use that list to try and focus down on who I want everyone to work together to try and sort.

by rough order of confidence :

Fire / Spiffeh / Bell / HST

[Gypyx]

take that with a grain of salt but honestly i probably would've felt compelled to react in some way if it was a plan between me and cabd, or like, maybe he would've screamed at me to not do that lol, idk

[Gypyx]

hey bell, what if i promised you i was town

[Gypyx]

you bet it is, i'd never lie to you like that

[Gypyx]

Where do you live? Wikipedia says we have to cross pinkie fingers for that

[Gypyx]

I, Gypyx "Virtute Ex Machina" Gypyx, Pinky promise that I am aligned with the town in Kemusan dance game If this contract is breached I am liable for penalties but i think i'd prefer other penalties since like, that probably consistutes as making a bet according to site rules, even if it's pretty funny

[Gypyx]

i'm still not really in an okay trauma headspace rn so i'll get to this when i get to this

take your time, hoping things are still somewhat ok for you <3

[Gypyx]

i have 5 whole days rn to post what i'm thinking so

i assume deadlines reset upon one death so....

they, in fact do not

[Gypyx]

During the dances
, normal nightless execution mechanics will take over. An execution will NOT reset the deadline

[Gypyx]

all in all this is a very patient dance players for someone not to have left yet tbh lol
Proud of u all

be the change you want to see in the world

[Gypyx]

During the dances
, normal nightless execution mechanics will take over. An execution will NOT reset the deadline

what is the normal nightless execution mechanic, just so i can judge how much safety brain time i can take for myself

we vote and whenever we reach majority someone dies, the day keeps going on

[Gypyx]

all in all this is a very patient dance players for someone not to have left yet tbh lol
Proud of u all

be the change you want to see in the world

i think u misread that. i am not complaining at all

yeah but like i wanted to say that

[Gypyx]

bump this mafia game until christmas

[Gypyx]

think it would be kinda crazy of you to play this game / today like you did as scum, especially considering the funny double scum leave stuff (yeah i'm reading a lot of the game in that light, it might be a bit of a mistake but idk)

[Gypyx]

if things don't move fowards soon i'm voting skitter / std i think

honestly maybe it would be cool if you posted more bell if you feel like it, we're absolutely running out of gas

[Gypyx]

i don't think the stalling is hurting too bad personally.
I know i complained earlier about getting us dance partners but right now im cool with us taking it slow.

There should be more content out of cakez though
and i await LLD return

we have 4 days to kill the last 2 scum members

[Gypyx]

" If the game runs out of time and at least one Mafia is still alive, then Mafia wins."

reading the setup is crazy

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Skitter / save the dragons

[Gypyx]

i think i'm fine going down to Bell / HST + spiffeh / Gypyx and figure out how things look for here

[Gypyx]

not to rush things obviously but i think we need to start doing actual stuff

[Gypyx]

fire's lack of hurry probably comes from a place of not really understeanding the current stakes but i think the other people engaging in stagnation / slowplay are pretty likely to do it with scum intents

[Gypyx]

i think LLD kinda can't afford to act more survivalistic if she was scum, like, idk about you but if LLD tried to steer things away from her i'm murdering her

i also think skitter's confidence in her STD townread is kinda weird? since there's like, not much

[Gypyx]

HST do you have any words for your haters perhaps

[Gypyx]

i think you kinda can't predict real life issues, maybe LLD would make more of an effort to pull through her issues as scum but we can't read them on that

[Gypyx]

Sync achieved.

VOTE: Gyphx

looks like you're not calibrated correctly sir

[Gypyx]

not a fan of all this solving behind closed doors

[Gypyx]

they both dumb and didn't read my beautiful town case i just made.

see you're the only one who understeands me Fire

[Gypyx]

how funny would it be if it was bell / HST

[Gypyx]

hmmm

neurons activation

cabd had expressed reads mostly about these slots if i'm not mistaken :

ffery / lavar / Gypyx / Spiffeh / STD

so :

Town / Town / ??? (ik i'm town) / ??? (probtown) / ???

how crazy would it be if he just never interacted with his scumbuddies

[Gypyx]

i'm asking to people who know how cabd act what would he do

[Gypyx]

I’m feeling bamboozled.

trust everything i say unconditionally

[Gypyx]

Maybe i'm crazy but i think bell can't make me townspew so he's trying to pressure hypothetical scum!me into slipping

[Gypyx]

bell blink twice if you want me to get angry about your push and counterattack in self-rigtheous angriness

[Gypyx]

POG

[Gypyx]

aight std flips red cool

[Gypyx]

how about i never speak about anyone's alignement ever again huh how about i do that

[Gypyx]

mod note

Skitter is VLA Friday/Saturday

Votes are reset after every elimination

it's as if she still was with us

[Gypyx]

btw fire if you could wait before you leave maybe, i'm having strong doubts about your pair being T/T and i wanna explore them

[Gypyx]

Can someone confirm if my understanding is correct that we have one more town/town mis-elim left before the point of no return?

Or do we need to hit scum from here on out?

(Assuming the remaining scum are in pairs with town)

we are 8

assuming we kill a T/T it's still 4:2

which like, it's not great granted

[Gypyx]

aight std flips red cool

Can you explain why you thought this was going to happen when STD was the one who chose to leave the dance?

Also, which of the two remaining pairs are town/town in your opinion?

well, i thought at first that yeah STD must've been town for doing that, but like, then the timing was a bit fishy on his part, and then it didn't look like his pair was going far anyways so i guessed that looked like scum

think we're T/T and i'm hesitating between (FireLLD) and (BellHST)

especially it really feels like bell is scum positionning for an endgame against me spiffeh

[Gypyx]

really banking on there being a scum in RCE / Cakez but my track record hasn't been stellar

[Gypyx]

btw fire if you could wait before you leave maybe, i'm having strong doubts about your pair being T/T and i wanna explore them

this a typo?
shouldn't u want me to leave earlier if u think theres scum in my pair

no like

i was thinking it had good oods of having scum

but i'm really doubting that read rn

[Gypyx]

can we do SC / RCE first pls

[Gypyx]

oh wow this is really speeding up

[Gypyx]

Bell i would really love more insight into what happened in your hood

[Gypyx]

And by that I mean, we lose rn if that’s the case so.

we can like vote them out

[Gypyx]

i really don't like that

[Gypyx]

hmhmmhmmhmmm not good.

Skitter/STD probably still has scum but then i really need to trust one of Gypyx/Spiffeh or HST/Bell

I want to say i continue trusting Bell

Bell's tone his good but his play has felt really scummy

[Gypyx]

stop rushing things

[Gypyx]

actually, fire/LLD are never S/S i think, right? like, no way

[Gypyx]

VOTE: bell-HST

[Gypyx]

UNVOTE:

[Gypyx]

ugh idk

[Gypyx]

fire

the question is do you think the second scum is HST or me / spiffeh

[Gypyx]

Part of me thinks STD and RCE just yeeted themselves so they wouldn’t have to make any hard decisions

And I’m envious that they thought of it first

ngl i'm trying really hard to convince myself to not do the same

[Gypyx]

idk i guess we have time

might as well wait a bit for LLD to post maybe

[Gypyx]

idk i guess we have time

might as well wait a bit for LLD to post maybe

Please no.

unless you think they're S/S it costs us nothing

[Gypyx]

yeah they did

[Gypyx]

you are maybe lacking a bit in attention

[Gypyx]

trying to harness my psychic powers to guess if the dead thread is making fun of me right now

[Gypyx]

[Gypyx]

holy shit my reads

[Gypyx]

anyways spiffeh is gonna be the last scum if we follow the pattern of me being wrong everywhere

[Gypyx]

If you fucks leave or vote anyone without me voting first I will eat you.
Four days for a hero solve of tremendous proportions.

message received sir

[Gypyx]

how many posts in your dance PT bell?

[Gypyx]

Gypyx do you have any completed scum games after Tenet?

yeah but like, they're an extreme step down in quality

will pull them up regardless but you've been warned

[Gypyx]

@Gypyx and @HST, obviously also curious to hear who you think is the remaining scum!

will probably do that tommorow to let my mind reset itself a bit, been building up a lot of paranoia

[Gypyx]

Gypyx do you have any completed scum games after Tenet?

yeah but like, they're an extreme step down in quality

will pull them up regardless but you've been warned

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[Gypyx]

I called Cabd townlean, flipped scum
I called Enchant over Lavar, Enchant flipped scum
I called LLD town, LLD flipped scum

I have never been broken this bad in my entire mafiascum career

hey now that's my bit, you can't take it, go find your own thing

[Gypyx]

i think the fact that HST has paired with bell out of her own initiative is also somewhat scum!indicative since like, bell seems to be proud and willing to go to endgame

[Gypyx]

oh sorry, well, it makes even more sense no? Like, yeah maybe me + spiffeh can be seen as going deep somewhat reliably, but me pocketing him, even when coached by 2-3 people is a tall order, while HST already has some of the tools required

[Gypyx]

not calling u pocketed dw

[Gypyx]

You actually are lol.

if affinity is what you call a pocket then sure

[Gypyx]

You actually are lol.

if affinity is what you call a pocket then sure

Please read your own post, lol.

well sorry to have made you acknowledge your inherent emotional biases that come with being a human being

[Gypyx]

You had to acknowledge it first! You had to acknowledge that you were saying I was more likely to be buddied by HST than you were to succeed at buddying Spiffeh with Cabd *and* LLD coaching you!

i don't understeand what you're saying now

[Gypyx]

i feel like a boomer facing gen alpha slang rn

pedit : oh ok

[Gypyx]

So what’re your plans for elo gyphx?

right now i've got other stuff on my hands so fluffposting really, i'll probably think about what i wanna read into tommorow

i also hate writing big stuff so hopefully i won't have to do that

[Gypyx]

btw i've never found the courage to ask but like why do you type it "Gyphx"

[Gypyx]

Pretty convoluted syllabe but yeah it works

[Gypyx]

I kind of speed read. So I miss stuff and fill in the blanks.

I had a similar problem with datisi, that I always wrote as “datasi” because I liked subvocalizing “dat-ah-si.”

that's actually mad interesting, tbh i'm not better at all this in that i've also read fireis as "fireisdesire" for like half the game lol

i pronounce it Gy-Picks, with a G like in "Igloo"

tbh i've also considered changing it in some way cause i've gotten a fair share of people reading it as "Gypsy" and that was NOT the impression i wanted to give out lol

[Gypyx]

How many posts are in your neighborhood?

26

[Gypyx]

There are 116 posts in our neighborhood since someone asked.

We’ll be going over both neighborhoods when we review.

I was thinking more along the lines of sphinx, when reading your name. But I thought that wasn’t what you were going for. But it sounded cool.

well it could become that suggestion box is open

[Gypyx]

For real?

yeah for real for real

i've kinda chosen to not talk too much during intermission and then i think we both preffered to put everything on the table for everyone to see

[Gypyx]

gonna describe our hood after that

2. tired so correct me if i'm misguided but isn't it kinda weird to assume scum would suicide on someone? that just doesn't sound like the scum play i'd usually expect without a reason to expect it (like, in that case i'm thinking just being in the scum PT and knowing their plans)

i'm seeing other weird stuff like 3. and 9. but i belive it's self explainatory (like, yeah mindmelding with your only scumbuddy is bad and arguing scum is doing good plays is bad)

gonna do our read PT too before going to bed

[Gypyx]

Skitter thought it wasn't weird.
And obviously Cabd, LLD, and Enchant didn't either.

I mean, enchant's a fairy, I don't expect to understand them, but the other two do their homework.
Sort of.

no what i mean is like, it's kinda out of nowhere, (don't think it's ever been done in dance?) so i'm calling informed on that, yeah with hindisght obv it makes sense

[Gypyx]

1. i say i plan on dropping thoughts here cause i didn't feel so at easy in the thread at the time of intermission starting
2. i say i'm sussing RH9 / skitter / RCE / STD and townreading fireis / HST / enchant
3. Spiffeh asks me to elaborate on the skitt pair
4./5. i'm surprised and confused night is so soon
6. Spiffeh claims he was townreading enchant, bummed out about his flip
7. I say it's cool and maybe scum just wants to kill someone directly
8. I elaborate that STD was basically switching between posting styles for no apparent reason and that skitter is mostly a gut read, but also that i'm big wrong already so let's maybe be cautious, also thinking we could've died today or LLD / fire (gotta remember idk why i thought that)
9. announcing i'm taking a break from mafia

the sleepiness is coming, more coming later

[Gypyx]

will be in thread in ~3 hours

[Gypyx]

i assume i'm the other part of "both"?

and otherwise i'm not sure if i have a lot of productive content to do on my own, like, maybe i should reevaluate on spiffeh one last time but if i don't find anything too bad i just know scum is in the other pair, it's probably HST but i'm not excluding it being you Bell ig

[Gypyx]

Yes you are the other part of Both.
You don’t have to answer my questions if you don’t want. I’m not entirely sure how much difference it would make at this point.

Is there some reason you said you would be here in 3 hours?

in case someone wanted to interact with me / to say when i would settle down to start thinking about things

i then promptly realized i in fact am not in the position where much thinking is required, ok like, a bit sure, a tiny bit

[Gypyx]

eh, i could do that but i don't find much fun in case building and ISO diving

and ofc, not voting yet

[Gypyx]

will do my due diligence around spiffeh tho

[Gypyx]

yeah, good way to put it

besides it's maybe the pace of this game but it really feels like it's just been a blur, i just don't have a lot to latch onto

[Gypyx]

You seemed to care about the pace of the game and voted me when I was acting scummy for trying to speed things along after the second death.

for sure, that's the one thing that makes me think there's decent odds of you being scum, your tone is good but some of your actions have really felt proscum

and then people died anyways and that kinda was it lol

[Gypyx]

Uh, in terms of not enough stuff to latch unto, I’m not sure what you latch to, but there are…posts that people have made.
A few of them.

sorry there's too many words i can only do stuff with pictures

and like, it's just that i'm honestly very emotion driven when playing the game

[Gypyx]

You think there’s decent odds I’m scum?

like 20something

[Gypyx]

I see.
The sircakez method.
If you ignore the forest, the traps, implements of death and trail of blood, was there ever really evidence of a murderer in the forest in the first place?

no what i'm saying is that in the end scum acts in order for scum to win and town act in order for town to win, the rest is indicative but shouldn't completely overshadow your actions, which are the most concrete form of action

[Gypyx]

I get it, it’s definitely scummy to rush things.
*stares at the pile of corpses*
Or at least it favors the scum win con.

*looks to the dead dog and Fire bird*
Some of the time.

people on this website are so funny

[Gypyx]

Let me walk you through this if you’re town, be patient with me please.

I was playing in a standard fashion and not taking any undue haste nor did I encourage others for undue haste.

Until, STD and RCE left and then I pushed for FB to kill themselves before LLD returned.

This benefits scum me because if LLD had come back they might have outted me as the last scum in their amateurish way.

hmmmm

yeah ok i gotta admit it maybe doesn't make too much sense, my bad for the trash opinions

bussing is always a thing of course but like, whatever you can say that to everything

[Gypyx]

stop it i can't take the sass anymore