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[Lycanfire]

OK.

VOTE: Dave

VOTE: Naerys
can u just vote me out i dont wanna read Rangers posts anymore

Can you just vote ranger

I suspect there's a very specific reason why you want us to vote Ranger?

If Ranger turns out to be Town I'll be coming for you.

VOTE: Ranger

Fuck.

I'm already voting them.

(That's how fucked this IRL week has been.)

[Lycanfire]

Yes, Ranger replaced Davesaz. We both know, especially after you went out of your way to let Hu Tao know you were keen on sheeping them, and you corrected yourself that you were already voting her within a minute. Stop acting ignorant.

[Random Nurse]

2.FINAL

Votecount 2.FINAL

Ranger (EXECUTED):

Random Nurse

, Titus, Oblivion, PenguinPower, Lycanfire, Thomith, Gypyx
PenguinPower (2): KayJayQueue, Hu Tao
Gypyx (2): geraintm, Naerys
Hu Tao (1): Ranger
Thomith (1): Snow2697

With 13 players alive, it took 7 votes to secure an execution.

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

4.FINAL

Votecount 4.FINAL

geraintm (EXECUTED): Lycanfire, Psyche, KayJayQueue, Oblivion,

Random Nurse

Lycanfire (1): geraintm
KayJayQueue (1): Enchant
Oblivion (1): Gypyx

Not Voting (1): Thomith

With 9 players alive, it took 5 votes to secure an execution.

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Random Nurse]

I executed both ranger and geraintm.

[Lycanfire]

You barely mentioned her name or quoted her posts. You interacted with her exactly once where you asked for reads... Reads from Ranger... lol

[Enchant]

Enchant, how do you feel about how Oblivion and Ranger interacted day 2?

I mostly forgot anything.

I know that mafia while having pretty good chances to pivot wagon on someone else just by supporting Gypix, prefered to sit on teammate.

There's reason why i believed flip will be town, because how counterintuitive it is, if mafia didn't vote teammate, you would need to convince Gypix to vote, Thomith or Me.

I get that from the perspective of a town!you there must have been a bus. Based off what you're saying in the italicized portion, does this relate to Oblivion?

Again i just picked two players who i liked and willing to eliminate everyone else.

Oblivion doesn't give me reason to reconsider and even if i for moment believed Oblivion may be town it STILL go, because i am not risking being shitpushed and eliminated instead due it efforts.


I need to read how Oblivion supported wagon but only hammering when there's risk of being eliminated instead doesn't give points because then it becomes evident that Gera is mafia.

If Oblivion flips scum while having all opporonities to hammer Gera, then Gera is clearly not town and it's insta loss for mafia.

There's Oblivion sees atleast some chance.

[Random Nurse]

Yes, Ranger replaced Davesaz. We both know, especially after you went out of your way to let Hu Tao know you were keen on sheeping them, and you corrected yourself that you were already voting her within a minute. Stop acting ignorant.

I don't like this.

You're trying to find every reason to twist my words and shade me. Not cool.

[Psyche]

i suppose if i just let the RN thing go through i could be dead before it's my turn to push again

[Random Nurse]

Enchant, are you open to limmin Lycan today?

Based on Lycan continues to twist my words/actions I'm starting to suspect more and more they are Scum.

[Lycanfire]

Yes, Ranger replaced Davesaz. We both know, especially after you went out of your way to let Hu Tao know you were keen on sheeping them, and you corrected yourself that you were already voting her within a minute. Stop acting ignorant.

I don't like this.

You're trying to find every reason to twist my words and shade me. Not cool.

Yes, I'm dropping shade on you because you're shady. Your words are your words.

[Random Nurse]

Enchant, Psyche, Oblivion, Kay:

Does it make sense that I would eliminate both of my partners and also pick a prolonged fight with Thomith and Gypyx as Scum?

[Psyche]

ah. but perhaps to ask if it makes sense is the wrong question

[Lycanfire]

Oblivion doesn't give me reason to reconsider and even if i for moment believed Oblivion may be town it STILL go, because i am not risking being shitpushed and eliminated instead due it efforts.

I think Oblivion wanted to play with a persona ("the mind meld") but they hit every branch slipping off the tree starting on d2 in their fight with Ranger. I can sympathize with all their disheartening moments, and I think the difference between Oblivion and I is that I haven't had my opportunity to play persona

taken away

, so to speak.

I think they're lazy voting you because their reads haven't caught up yet. Try taking a step back and understand why they're lagging behind.

[Psyche]

enchanto
are you also townlocked re: kay?

[Random Nurse]

ah. but perhaps to ask if it makes sense is the wrong question

What do you propose instead?

[Lycanfire]

It may have been missed in your read through Enchant, but Oblivion got frustrated with Gypyx/Thomith dominating the thread d3 and not being listened to.

[Random Nurse]

It may have been missed in your read through Enchant, but Oblivion got frustrated with Gypyx/Thomith dominating the thread d3 and not being listened to.

And in your mind does that make it Scum as well?

[Lycanfire]

Oblivion wasn't pushing an agenda. They completely bounced out of the game d3 even though I announced to the thread that I was essentially making Oblivion a double voter.

[Enchant]

enchanto
are you also townlocked re: kay?

No.

[Psyche]

ah. but perhaps to ask if it makes sense is the wrong question

What do you propose instead?

to get a correct read on one such as yourself,
it could be a mistake to reason based on what makes sense
this is because our reasoning outcomes tend to diverge
for example, we diverged on the gypyx/thomith being locktown thing

if you were scum, you'd probably diverge from me about when it might be a good time to bus and component judgments
like whether a slot is likely to be limmed, like whether you're sufficiently distanced from this or that player, and so on

so reasoning about your play based on my own judgments about what makes sense in these situations could lead me to wrong reads!

[Lycanfire]

I'd like to apologize for my repeated use of

they

when I speak about Oblivion. I will do better to use the pronoun

it

. I default to the more gender neutral

they

often, but I think it would prefer a different pronoun for this account.

[Psyche]

ey ey ey RN
i think LF is town
won't you trust me on this?
if you did pretend to trust me on this, who would you vote for instead, in that pretend moment?

[Random Nurse]

ah. but perhaps to ask if it makes sense is the wrong question

What do you propose instead?

to get a correct read on one such as yourself,
it could be a mistake to reason based on what makes sense
this is because our reasoning outcomes tend to diverge
for example, we diverged on the gypyx/thomith being locktown thing

if you were scum, you'd probably diverge from me about when it might be a good time to bus and component judgments
like whether a slot is likely to be limmed, like whether you're sufficiently distanced from this or that player, and so on

so reasoning about your play based on my own judgments about what makes sense in these situations could lead me to wrong reads!

What is your current read on me?

You've played with me multiple times before.

[Random Nurse]

ey ey ey RN
i think LF is town
won't you trust me on this?
if you did pretend to trust me on this, who would you vote for instead, in that pretend moment?

I don't get the sense he's Town because he's subverting the meaning behind my actions. If you're Town if you're not sure why someone did something you should ask for clarification first, instead if telling someone what they're doing.

I'm also paranoid of everyone else here, including you. I do think Kay needs to step up and contribute more.

[Psyche]

see this is so interesting
i feel like ive been thoroughly unambiguous about my read on you