In post 3626, Lycanfire wrote:
The problem is that I don't think I'm wrong.
I have the least confidence in you Enchant, but I have good reasons for all my townreads and my scumread.
Winning today matters to me. Going to another day invites dysfunction.
I am having all the same problems as you, except I don't see a world where Enchant is scum. Admittedly, that's more to do with Titus, but I don't think I am wrong and I want to win today. I know some of us are going to have to bend one way or the other. I can't justify to myself "lend them your vote if they promise Kay tomorrow if game doesn't end", because I would have to hear that from Gypyx to be sure - I think you are town but I wouldn't bet the game on it right this second - but I think we will all be suprised if ConfTown survive, and I think Enchant would be up instead, which smells like a loss to me.
I stand by the fact I can't see RN as groupscum. I've not played in a game with a Traitor before, and when I suggested they might be one, I hadn't looked up the role on the wiki and now that I know a traitor has to know the id's of the groupscum to be "Normal", I don't think that's a possibility either. I've made no secret of the fact I hate the schtick, if you want to call it that, but I don't think that makes him scum.