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[yessiree]

I think Hu Tao just living life on fast forward

[yessiree]

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between them

i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, but part of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc

[StraightFlush]

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

Okay I'm going back to my read of Brian might be scum if Yessir is town. So I'm OK with voting out Brian

VOTE: brian

UNVOTE:

Actually nvm for now

this makes sense

How do you figure? I'm finding HT's reads increasingly hard to follow.

[StraightFlush]

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between them

i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, but part of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc

A bit of mindmelding here. Both reads feel like they originated from inconsequential stuff and got increasingly strong because they continued arguing, not vice versa. That's why I feel PC/Brian is probably TvT currently

[yessiree]

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

Okay I'm going back to my read of Brian might be scum if Yessir is town. So I'm OK with voting out Brian

VOTE: brian

UNVOTE:

Actually nvm for now

this makes sense

How do you figure? I'm finding HT's reads increasingly hard to follow.

oh, i dropped this /s

[Random Nurse]

It wouldn't surprise me if Scum attempted to use my inactivity as a way to score an easy yeet.

Hate to say it but work and school will always take priority. I am at work currently and will post as able.

[Random Nurse]

it was yeah.

why? trying to be my fren? or trying to be anyones fren? or trying to be everyone's fren?

Would you consider it scummy if I was trying to do the above though. If so, why?

I would think you are hiding a pr. your entrance suggests eagerness your consecutives posts suggests stealth and trying to blend in. Your deflection suggests slight annoyance at me.

keep posting let me determine everyone's role.

On re-read I don't think I like this particular bit here because it smacks of PR-hunting. Then again it seems pretty blatant, so not exactly subtle. I'm assuming you were just joking on determining everyone's roles?

[Random Nurse]

Gotta round on my detox-ers. BBS.

[PenguinPower]

what

both but to your question titus

what a weird thing to double down on...you ok?

hardly his fault when you're mysterious like the dark side of the moon

?

Literally was quite explicit as to the meaning.

[BlackStar]

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between them

i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, but

part of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved

. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc

Can you post that game?

[yessiree]

what

both but to your question titus

what a weird thing to double down on...you ok?

hardly his fault when you're mysterious like the dark side of the moon

?

Literally was quite explicit as to the meaning.

Not you too ...

I need to start marking my posts with /s

[yessiree]

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between them

i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, but

part of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved

. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc

Can you post that game?

viewtopic.php?t=92350

[Hu Tao]

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

Okay I'm going back to my read of Brian might be scum if Yessir is town. So I'm OK with voting out Brian

VOTE: brian

UNVOTE:

Actually nvm for now

this makes sense

It does. In my mind.

[BlackStar]

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between them

i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, but

part of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved

. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc

Can you post that game?

viewtopic.php?t=92350

Thanks. I’ll look over it

[PenguinPower]

what

both but to your question titus

what a weird thing to double down on...you ok?

hardly his fault when you're mysterious like the dark side of the moon

?

Literally was quite explicit as to the meaning.

Not you too ...

I need to start marking my posts with /s

but...but i am mysterious like the dark side of the moon usually...right?

[davesaz]

what

both but to your question titus

what a weird thing to double down on...you ok?

hardly his fault when you're mysterious like the dark side of the moon

?

Literally was quite explicit as to the meaning.

A comma after both in PC's post would have helped. I saw 446 without remembering what PC was replying to earlier, and the embedded quote didn't parse without the context.
Didn't realize until I previewed that 446 was followup to the question that prompted PC's reply.
Hmm, maybe I didn't understand what the issue was, but I don't want to abandon this so I'll go ahead and post it.

[KayJayQueue]

I’m not fully V/LA or anything but activity level over the next 2 1/2 days will be greatly reduced as I’m starting my insane work hours as per every weekend. I’ll still be around though.

[Gypyx]

I’m not fully V/LA or anything but activity level over the next 2 1/2 days will be greatly reduced as I’m starting my insane work hours as per every weekend. I’ll still be around though.

got it

[Titus]

VOTE: Greeting

Somebody ought to cop Brian and PC but I feel Greeting's scum that didn't want to decide.

There’s no rush to decide. And I will not be pressured into building up either wagon until I read into them myself.

What more info do you need?

[Brian Skies]

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

What's the connection between these two?

[Brian Skies]

Brian, can I have you go deeper into your thoughts on PC. Was wondering what you were seeing there besides the rolefishing?

It's mostly the rolefishing and the way they handled our 1v1.In our engagement, it seemed as though they were just trying to paint a target red rather than actual sorting.

[Hu Tao]

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

What's the connection between these two?

They are my 2 scum reads

[SmileyDude1]

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between them

i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, but part of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc

Can I have you go more into the bolded point, why do you think this?

[SmileyDude1]

Ok, so read over the game in 460 and Brian feels somewhat similar to here I think. It feels like their rate of generating reads felt the same in both games, though I felt in the linked game Brian was generally more adaptive with his reads than what I've seen from them here so far. I did see instances in the link where Brian was pretty confrontational so I can see how Yes came to that read.

I guess my thing is I'm currently scumreading Brian due to them having an illogical progression from a town perspective imo, and I didn't really see anything in that game that points to that being natural or reasonable for town!Brian.

This is tough because I think I mainly scumread Brian off play and I don't think meta is going to be of much help in that instance. Thing is some of their behavior doesn't vibe with what I would expect scum to do in spots and I can see some similarities with their town game. There's a part of me that thinks I might be hard tunneled or putting too much focus in the wrong thing, though it is the scumread I feel most confident about by a large margin right now.

I'm probably going to try to take another look at some other people sometime tomorrow and see if I can get to a similar level of confidence there.

[SmileyDude1]

Also for reference we are less than 3 days out from deadline (~2 and 1/2 days as of the time of this post)