open 914: the coalition

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Spoiler:

alfred von wierusz kowalski

vote count 1.4 !

coalition votes:

Tsawwassen:

Black, Moros, Tsawwassen, implosion, Umlaut

Black:

Umlaut, implosion, Black, Moros, Tsawwassen

Umlaut:

Umlaut, May, Tsawwassen, implosion, Black

ceejayvinoya:

ceejayvinoya, implosion, Umlaut, Black, Moros

Aventurine:

Aventurine, May, Tsawwassen, Black, implosion

May:

Black, May, Cutter B, Moros, Umlaut

Moros:

May, Tsawwassen, implosion, Black, Moros

implosion:

implosion, Umlaut, Black, Moros, Aventurine

Cutter B:

Tsawwassen

execution votes:

(these have no effect until after the coalition phase is over, but i'll keep track of them)

not voting (9):

Cutter B, Black, Aventurine, ceejayvinoya, Moros, May, Tsawwassen, implosion, Umlaut

with 9 alive, it takes 5 of the same vote to propose a coalition. the coalition phase ends in (expired on 2024-05-07 07:07:25).

moderateur notes

• Cutter B is VLA
  
• }
  
• b
  
• urpger
  

[Moros]

i liked black and implosion's reactions to it the most, they felt real to me, like they wanted to look for town. ceejay i am most suspicious of now i think.

spooky. care to expand or do I have to slowly draw it out of you

it felt like the way you were treating aventurine was from a goal of wanting it to be left out of the coalition and be seen as scum by others instead of trying to see if he is town. like you wanted to look like the winner of an argument. i think that's what scum would want to do.

[Moros]

This is the second time it feels like you're templatizing the game and then reading it instead of reading it. Aside from how it makes me skeptical of the outcomes it feels harder to read and that's frustrating

I don't think that complaint is universal though your Cutter B takes were fine

i felt this way earlier but i think now that he has good intentions.

Do you know what changed or will you just say "my feelings"

i don't think it's right of you to frame my feelings as insufficient. everything is based on feelings. my feelings changed because it felt like implosion just likes to view things in that manner, and the more recent times he did that, it didn't seem like he was stretching to reach a predetermined conclusion.

[Moros]

There was a lot of yapping!
I don't really dig the kind of yapping from May though... Feels like the empty posting that scum tends to make.

Warming up to an Aventurine townread. Particularly liked 306 where he opted to push for clarity as an outcome of the argument, rather than arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm still townreading implosion, Black and Moros, and I'm willing to stake the game on this read being correct.

For now I'll support any coalition without May or Cutter b. I'll exclude myself if we need to compromise.

i like this post.

[Moros]

HURT: May
HEAL: Aventurine

[implosion]

today was my first truly busy day in like 2 weeks. Tomorrow also likely to be busy, i'll catch up at some point

[Umlaut]

HURT: May
HEAL: Moros

I am very susceptible to peer pressure

[Black]

but I will catch up here too.

HURT: May
HEAL: Moros

I am very susceptible to peer pressure

Is this all you have from your catch-up

[Aventurine]

HURT: May HEAL: Moros

[Aventurine]

In my current coalition, I feel the worst about Tsawwassen. Not that I feel bad about Tsawwassen, I’m just the least confident on that end.

[Aventurine]

If ceejayvinoya is town I’m fairly certain the scum pair might be Cutter B and Tsawwassen but this has no basis, I was just looking at the current coalitions

[Black]

In my current coalition, I feel the worst about Tsawwassen. Not that I feel bad about Tsawwassen, I’m just the least confident on that end.

Do you think Implosion and I are town now?

[schadd_]

replacing cutter b

[Aventurine]

In my current coalition, I feel the worst about Tsawwassen. Not that I feel bad about Tsawwassen, I’m just the least confident on that end.

Do you think Implosion and I are town now?

Yes

[Black]

In my current coalition, I feel the worst about Tsawwassen. Not that I feel bad about Tsawwassen, I’m just the least confident on that end.

Do you think Implosion and I are town now?

Yes

Would you mind going into your thought process a little there

[May]

This is the second time it feels like you're templatizing the game and then reading it instead of reading it. Aside from how it makes me skeptical of the outcomes it feels harder to read and that's frustrating

I don't think that complaint is universal though your Cutter B takes were fine

i felt this way earlier but i think now that he has good intentions.

Do you know what changed or will you just say "my feelings"

i don't think it's right of you to frame my feelings as insufficient. everything is based on feelings. my feelings changed because it felt like implosion just likes to view things in that manner, and the more recent times he did that, it didn't seem like he was stretching to reach a predetermined conclusion.

Is there something about the list that made it seem like he was stretching the first time?
It's not that feelings aren't valid but you can townread people for breaking a post down and showing it as being indicative of something more than you can for them just taking different stances every few pages

[May]

Umlaut floated a "can I remove May from my coalition to add someone else" then when 0 people posted reasoning I'm scum and 3 people posted "oh I don't like her for coalition this game" he switched. But still characterized it as an affect of other people's opinions
It makes me think he felt he had to follow through on it and doesn't make me think he read something persuasive
HURT: Umlaut
HEAL: implosion

[May]

I like the thought process in 371 even though I don't think I'm scum with Black ( I know I'm scum with Black).
Im liking Tsawassen more but I just gave this recently freed canoe chair to Implosion

[May]

In more detail I think that mafia would be less likely to suspect blacks jovial reaction to my antics+ the suspicion of my slot because both those posts and actions are pretty null or townie in a vacuum but it is a bit more unusual as a progression and mafia would automatically treat Black's suspicion as sincere. Sort of a data clobber to paying attention to how people are feeling

[schadd_]

tired person replaces Cutter B

[May]

Oh an I still healing cutter b I could just HURT: tired person HEAL: Tsawassen

[Moros]

This is the second time it feels like you're templatizing the game and then reading it instead of reading it. Aside from how it makes me skeptical of the outcomes it feels harder to read and that's frustrating

I don't think that complaint is universal though your Cutter B takes were fine

i felt this way earlier but i think now that he has good intentions.

Do you know what changed or will you just say "my feelings"

i don't think it's right of you to frame my feelings as insufficient. everything is based on feelings. my feelings changed because it felt like implosion just likes to view things in that manner, and the more recent times he did that, it didn't seem like he was stretching to reach a predetermined conclusion.

Is there something about the list that made it seem like he was stretching the first time?
It's not that feelings aren't valid but you can townread people for breaking a post down and showing it as being indicative of something more than you can for them just taking different stances every few pages

i don't know if we're talking about the same first time. i meant his read on umlaut for the reaction to black misunderstanding the setup. that felt like a stretch to me because the logic didn't hold to me but he kept the read anyway.

[Moros]

may caught up to the point of seeing umlaut's most recent vote, and then in 392 and 393 went backwards and found something else to talk about from earlier. i think this could happen if she is scum and believes she needs to post more thoughts to get townread after seeing multiple people remove her from their coalitions.

[Moros]

it could also just be a thought she was chewing on and took some time to digest. or she wanted to reassess her coalition vote. i guess it isn't that unusual to take another look at things. the timing of it just made it feel to me like it was a second effort being made in response.

[May]

I often have a feeling immediately but have to reread my most recent catch-up to coalesce things into a post that has more value than "umlaut is a coconut" or "I like tsawassen more". I write the stuff in the order it's become articulable instead of chronological order.