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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 7:47 am

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umlaut is a coconut
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 9:20 am

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hi

HEAL: tired person, black, moros, aventurine, may
I'm tired.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 10:26 am

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In post 371, Tsawwassen wrote: Black was vibing with May's RVS self heal in the opening, then I healed May. Then Black suddenly signaled for caution about putting May in the coalition 61. I found this sudden vibe change a little odd, and rationalized it as some sort of distancing play. It's a post with low stakes but high payoff.
I don't understand how you go from rationalizing it as some sort of distancing play, to your statement that you're okay with having one of the two of them in your coalition but not both. Distancing typically describes something scum do toward other scum. If you rationalized it as "Black might be distancing from May", why would your reaction to this not be "we should omit both Black and May from the coalition"?
In post 371, Tsawwassen wrote: I don't really see what's the issue with me putting people I trust and townread in the coalition?
I don't really feel viscerally from your posting that the people you put in the coalition are people that you evaluated and came to trust and townread, rather than people that you as scum felt were politically expedient to call town.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 10:29 am

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It's possible I'm focusing too much on the distancing play comment, I can tend to get caught up on like, what I view as logical missteps. But
In post 189, Tsawwassen wrote:Townreading Black somewhat, but not gonna lie I got a gut feeling that Black vs May might have been some sort of distancing play, so I don't want the coalition to have both of them in it, I'm fine with Black being in it though!
I still just don't understand how the thought process here goes from "might have been a distancing play" to "don't want the coalition to have
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of them in it".
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 10:31 am

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I think I intensely have no idea how to read May.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 10:32 am

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I think in the abstract I broadly feel like May's posting is more likely to come from town than from scum and I'm sure I could find examples to justify feeling that way but I don't know how confident I feel in it
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 10:48 am

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HURT: Tsawwassen
HEAL: Aventurine
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 11:17 am

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I wonder if reading May is different from reading Isis
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 11:20 am

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It's extra illogical because Black is the one who was behaving inconsistently so if Black v May was actually SvT (counterfactually ofc we are princesses in crime) Black would be the one putting on airs from alignment related issues

I can't really find a scum thought process for that error though? It just didn't really bug me. Lots of people have been very Wrong this game, some of them don't even want to selfcoal
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 11:24 am

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I guess if it's black tsawassen exactly it works as a desired result regardless of logic rather than an inability to show town shaped thought
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:23 pm

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In post 385, Aventurine wrote: If ceejayvinoya is town I’m fairly certain the scum pair might be Cutter B and Tsawwassen but this has no basis, I was just looking at the current coalitions
I don't follow... what do you mean?
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:31 pm

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I think we are all converging on a coalition
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:38 pm

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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:39 pm

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Which coalition are we converging on
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:41 pm

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Umlaut, implosion, Black, Moros, Aventurine

^ this one I think
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:43 pm

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i don't want to converge on a coalition that has umlaut in it.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:50 pm

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Hmm, ok we are on the precipice of convergence
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:08 pm

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In post 402, implosion wrote:
In post 371, Tsawwassen wrote: Black was vibing with May's RVS self heal in the opening, then I healed May. Then Black suddenly signaled for caution about putting May in the coalition 61. I found this sudden vibe change a little odd, and rationalized it as some sort of distancing play. It's a post with low stakes but high payoff.
I don't understand how you go from rationalizing it as some sort of distancing play, to your statement that you're okay with having one of the two of them in your coalition but not both. Distancing typically describes something scum do toward other scum. If you rationalized it as "Black might be distancing from May", why would your reaction to this not be "we should omit both Black and May from the coalition"?
My thought process was like, "Black might be trying to distance from May", "but I townread Black independently", "I'm willing to shelve that read", "but it's a cool read let me float it out there anyway". Yes it's a lot of mental gymnastics, but is it necessarily scum indicative?
In post 402, implosion wrote:
In post 371, Tsawwassen wrote: I don't really see what's the issue with me putting people I trust and townread in the coalition?
I don't really feel viscerally from your posting that the people you put in the coalition are people that you evaluated and came to trust and townread, rather than people that you as scum felt were politically expedient to call town.
They were mostly gut reads cause I saw something I liked from their posting. I don't believe in over-justifying townreads, especially that early
In post 191, implosion wrote: This is interesting because it's softly a list of you, me and my townreads; and also because it seems quite the politically infeasible coalition at this moment (granted that Moros is being a bit ambiguous about its read on me, but it did unheal me and is scumreading Black and Umlaut)
Wait! You changed your tune! You said it was quite the politically infeasible coalition before since the people I included in my coalition were scumreading each other. :igmeou:
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 10:34 pm

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In post 411, Tsawwassen wrote: I think we are all converging on a coalition
In post 414, Tsawwassen wrote: Umlaut, implosion, Black, Moros, Aventurine

^ this one I think
In post 416, Tsawwassen wrote: Hmm, ok we are on the precipice of convergence
I originally thought that this sequence was scummy because i thought tas as town should oppose coalitions that don't include him (i know i would). but now i think tas is actually town because it does seem this coalition aligns with his reads and i think he might just be happy to have a coalition that aligns with his reads more or less... but this only makes me want to oppose this coalition even more because if tas and i are town, the chances of this coalition succeeding is very very low. an if he's scum then i was initially right that he is trying to push a coalition with his partner.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 10:34 pm

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with his panter in it, i mean
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 11:12 pm

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Yes! That coalition does align with my reads

No! I'm not happy I'm not in it!
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 12:59 am

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tas how do you feel about the following, drastically different coalition?
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I'm tired.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 1:32 am

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Umlaut has kinda fallen off for me mainly because he just seems to be lurking and not doing much now that he's in a few people's coalition
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 3:21 am

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In post 421, tired person wrote: tas how do you feel about the following, drastically different coalition?
tired person, black, tas, aventurine, may
You already know the answers to this question, bozo
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:16 am

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In post 423, Tsawwassen wrote:
In post 421, tired person wrote: tas how do you feel about the following, drastically different coalition?
tired person, black, tas, aventurine, may
You already know the answers to this question, bozo
did you find cutter b actively scummy? because i found her pretty towny before i replaced in
also talk to me about your may scumread and umlaut townread because we seem to diverge there.
I'm tired.

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