Shell Game (Day 3)

[Hermit Crab]

Mine

[morph the cat]

gotta say, morphsync is amazing.

[Cephrir]

experience replaces ActionDan.

[marcistar]

im bored of the game thread as of late, esp of brian

[Lukewarm]

im bored of the game thread as of late, esp of brian

Did you have any thoughts about the cakez thing?

[Lukewarm]

VOTE: cakez

I've actually decided that this is good

At this point I am Most Bothered that it resulted in a full thread abandonment after he got his explanation out, despite his promises to solve the game right before

[marcistar]

yes i was reading it as it was happening

i liked pooky for jumping on that, its +
so much so it made me want to as well.

however i feel like the explanation does make sense, esp considering the "im high" portion of it. so i think it doesnt give a good read on cakez at all. i hate how he isnt engaging in thread though since i view him very highly as a player.

[Firebagel]

Yeah I didn't glean the meaning of that post saying it was notsci either

I'm only vaguely aware of the existence of notsci though so that's kinda to be expected

it was a signal specifically to notsci.

No I mean 1937 meant nothing to me because "are those words supposed to be understandable by the masses?" is exactly where I was at that point, so replying "it's pretty clearly been notsci" was just more gibberish to me until he said it more clearly.

[Hermit Crab]

I am a player with a significant experience with most of the game.

[morph the cat]

I was scum reading action dan at the time (this read has mellowed with time), and it still did not resonate with me.

Luke, can you talk about your current reads?

This prompted me to do start doing isos, but I am not getting through them today. So far I got Actiondan -> Gypyx -> Gypyx -> Spiff, but that is probably all Im getting to tonight.

Spoiler: Actiondan

Reading actiondan's iso actually left me leaning town, which is not exactly what I expected going in.

I think that his suspicion on Marci actually makes a little more sense now, knowing what we know about the hood, and because I saw that he did answer my question and has never played with her. I also feel like this

This kind of player is anathema to me. She projects an aura of incompetentance when I dont think she really is and injects her posts with being LOUD

recontexualizes this abit more

At first glance this worry from Maristar looks planned and manufactured. And with the goodfellas award I am discarding this as an oversensitive townie

And with that recontextualization. I buy it more, and its a nice consistency point.

I also think that his insistence that a miller absolutely does not make any sense in the setup is the thing that really said town to me. It rings as a True Thought to me.

In general, I think that because of ActionDan's economy of posting, players who don't know him well or haven't seen his play from a position of mod omniscience aren't aware of just how much he thinks through game design from the lens of his own abillities. The surface waves of all that thought (which Marci thinks are scum-indicative) are part of the reason that I've townleaned him. To move him above the line in my reads, I needed to see more, but not a lot more.

Spoiler: gypyx

Gypyx - Looking back, seeing them mess up the hood-scum reward in 344 feels like a townslip.

I don't see how scum legitimately see a statement that scum get a reward for being in the hood, and mixes that up with town getting a reward for killing scum in the hood.

I did not actually have a lot of other alignment thoughts about them across their whole iso, but I really liked that thought.

I don't feel nearly as strongly about that post as you do. I thought I had called out a possible Gypyx townslip, but it's not in my iso. Just two reluctant call outs of players I'm not townreading.

Spoiler: firebagel

Firebagel - Looking back, I actually hate 106.

283feels like the kind of easy thing scum look for to poke at, and does not even come with a alignment comment on Spiff. Just poking at word choice.

Something about 349 feels fake to me.

I also feel like her interactions with the dethy reveal 993, 1016, 1036 felt like posts of an outside observer, rather then someone whose wincon necessitates needing in figuring things out.

(On the townie side, I did like their town read on Oblivion in 282).

My main impression of Firebagel, besides liking their cheekiness, is that in this playerlist they give me LHF feels. I have an alt guess, but I haven't actually played a game with the player I'm thinking of so I'm not putting much stock in it, other than to note that if I'm right I wouldn't can that player LHF.

Spoiler: Spiff

Spiff - I like his page 6sunflower case. I also found it townie that he quoted it to bring it to page top. Like a lot.

I also kinda liked the instead hood claim after Marci's hood claim.

There is something about 898 that I find townie.

I also like that when Spiff looked back at his high posting, there is both a backtrack on his claim against me and a double down on his take about actiondan. Like he established he was not posting at 100%, and was looking back, but chose to double down on the one that was actually making people suspect him. It further helps that when I was looking back at actiondan's iso,I thought the same thing.

And I liked his willingness to instant read drop on klick with 1404.

Spiffeh has a bar to clear with both heads. One read has softened a little, the other hasn't. And knowing my tendencies to look really hard for town motivation, I'm happy to have Cabd keeping me vigilant.

So that is a town lean for Actiondan, Gypyx, and Spiff -- and a scum read for firebagel.

VOTE: firebagel

I started to list out my full town reads, and realized I might have too many. >.<

Before starting these isos, I was at:

Marci, Crab
morph, oblivion
CSF, Pooky, Ydra,

All as town of varying strengths, so adding Actiondan, Gypyx, and Spiff feels like too many. But that is not a problem that I will be able to address tonight.

My pre-iso concerns were

actiondan

, klick, sunflower, but very little confidence in any of them. I do feel like I need to look back at Klick and Sunflower's exchange from earlier, it struck me as an exchange I should be able to discern alignment from, but did not give up its secrets on the first pass.

I need more content from Klick.

I know from modding the Dream game and backup modding Prism's Invictus game that fireisredsir can generate a LOT of surface-town content as scum. It's possibly unfair, but it's where I'm at.

[Hermit Crab]

Is firebagel an alt? I thought someone said they had experience with them earlier in the game

[morph the cat]

gotta say, morphsync is amazing.

Luke, I posted this because one of the posts from this game you quoted re me noticing time lapses is a neuterhalf post.

[morph the cat]

Is firebagel an alt? I thought someone said they had experience with them earlier in the game

...47 posts? she's an alt.

[Hermit Crab]

I was assuming offsite.

[morph the cat]

I was assuming offsite.

I wasn't. I don't think there's much value in nailing it down, though.

[Brian Skies]

im bored of the game thread as of late, esp of brian

Why am I the subject of your ire?

What do you want to do today wrt your hood?

[Lukewarm]

gotta say, morphsync is amazing.

Luke, I posted this because one of the posts from this game you quoted re me noticing time lapses is a neuterhalf post.

For the record, I knew that was a cabd post

I actually wrote 2048 out with a "you" that I then replaced with "ffery" because I realized I was responding to cabd.

But the similarity is striking lol

[morph the cat]

gotta say, morphsync is amazing.

Luke, I posted this because one of the posts from this game you quoted re me noticing time lapses is a neuterhalf post.

For the record, I knew that was a cabd post

I actually wrote 2048 out with a "you" that I then replaced with "ffery" because I realized I was responding to cabd.

But the similarity is striking lol

For absolutely no good reason, I looked up a game I remembered drawing some conclusions from timestamps. It's a different sort of take from Isekai and and this game. If I think really hard about it there are probably other examples scattered here and across the internet.

My first post is 242 not 245 you said a blatant lie. I was attempting to see if you would realize your mistake and what you would do/say.

I'm still confused. Where is the lie?

I looked at the timestamp on the post where the mod introduced you. I looked at the timestamp of your first post and I looked at the timestamp of your reads post. From your first post to your reads post was a little less than an hour. Between the mod post and the reads post was a little more than an hour.

Do I fail at math or something?

[Sunflower]

@sunflowers and Klick, do either of you have an opinion about my alignment yet

not a strong one

your opening felt scummy to me but i think lately you've felt background more in a town way

i think you're not making a show of evaluating things but still doing it which is fairly towny imo

so i guess light townread for now

[marcistar]

im bored of the game thread as of late, esp of brian

Why am I the subject of your ire?

What do you want to do today wrt your hood?

cuz i looked at your posts and yawned

in regards to my hood, i dont really care. prefer for it to get solved but im not confident enough to make the call myself. more just "voice my opinion and dont shove it down throats"
i think in regards to letting it sit for a day for ~mechanical reasons~ (which i saw some people, i can specifically remember dragons but im sure others have said) would it not make sense to let it sit for a few more after that?
1 night to give
another night to give and get a result
and another night to get a result to confirm upon what we learnt previously
does that not make the most mechanical sense if we want to go down that route?
but i dont think its realistic to let a 1/5 shot slip through our fingers for that long.

my personal reads on my hoodmates have not changed much.
sunflower - klick - dragons - actiondan slot
granted the hood has been dead ever since the "hi" fest this morning, save for jupiter head complaining about # of pages and then not following up in hood after that. (i think i prob responded after they dipped tho)

[Sunflower]

i think i decided marci is town again

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, where are your reads overall atm?

Town:

marcistar
Oblivion
morph the cat
Hermit Crab


Lean town:

PookyTheMagicalBear
Firebringer
Save The Dragons
ActionDan
Shello and Goodbye
Cat Scratch Fever


Lean mafia:

Lukewarm
Brian Skies
Gypyx
Dannflor
PenguinPower
Bingle
SirCakez


Mafia?:

Firebagel
Spiffeh
Klick
Sunflower



Something like this. ask me for reasoning. I know you will ask about Lukewarm so I will say I have a different bar of what I think they are capable of as mafia, and aside from their interaction with you I don't like their posting very much. Actually Klick said something similar so maybe they are more pure than I am giving them credit for.

[Dunnstral]

also i just have this nagging feeling that one of the people pushing action dan for the timeline inconsistency of the cop/miller thing is scum so why not firebringer

Wasn't that only me and Firebringer? And I admitted that it wasn't a smoking gun.

[Lukewarm]

Dunn, where are your reads overall atm?

Town:

marcistar
Oblivion
morph the cat
Hermit Crab


Lean town:

PookyTheMagicalBear
Firebringer
Save The Dragons
ActionDan
Shello and Goodbye
Cat Scratch Fever


Lean mafia:

Lukewarm
Brian Skies
Gypyx
Dannflor
PenguinPower
Bingle
SirCakez


Mafia?:

Firebagel
Spiffeh
Klick
Sunflower



Something like this. ask me for reasoning. I know you will ask about Lukewarm so I will say I have a different bar of what I think they are capable of as mafia, and aside from their interaction with you I don't like their posting very much. Actually Klick said something similar so maybe they are more pure than I am giving them credit for.

You are leaning mafia on 11 people? lol

[morph the cat]

idk i still think shell game means that there's a power to swap people in and out of the hoods

Warm pup might also be scum, btw.

VOTE MEEEEEEEE

I lose my ability to rearrange hoods if I vote, which will make my wincon of making the alignments of living players in the hoods match really hard to achieve.

I'm getting a scum with TMI vibe from this.

And there's really nothing in their ISO that gives me unequivocal townvibes. I was looking back fireisred's posts about her neighbors and it struck me that she's been suspicious of/shaded every one of them over the last nearly 3 days.

vote: Sunflower