Mini 696 ~ Scum o' the Sea ~ Game Over

[militant]

Sorry if this is really obvious but why are you guys voting Potates and Crywolf?

The only reason I can fathom is that because not a lot of discussion went on on D1 and not a lot was learnt from the night kills, you are random voting until someone does something which is warrants discussion in which case you will unvote and re vote appropiatly. I could be wrong though, I didn't gain the name "Mili the reatard" for nothing.

[crywolf20084]

Truthfully, I'm right there with you on the why question.

As for if I saw the post, yes I saw it, and I'm sure I read it but, I cannot remember it at all right now. I'm pretty sure that it was something in responce to my post just before.

[ClockworkRuse]

FoS

Voting without reasons on day two.

Explanations?

[Jebus]

Reasoning behind votes, please? (springlullaby, Erratos, and Gremwell)

[Gremwell]

I can't speak for the others but I was hoping for reactions, we got zero from D1 and right now we need to make up for lost time, we're already down 2 townies with nothing to show for it. If someone else has some better ideas I'm all ears

[springlullaby]

FoS

Voting without reasons on day two.

Explanations?

Tell me, can you explain what difference it makes that we are in day two?

[ClockworkRuse]

FoS

Voting without reasons on day two.

Explanations?

Tell me, can you explain what difference it makes that we are in day two?

Because there should be enough to go off of now to at least start discussion. The fact that you are just going for another RVS day two serves to do nothing. We DO have enough to start hunting without these votes.

Now tell me exactly what you are thinking by voting randomly.

[springlullaby]

I notice with great interest that you are claiming that 'there should be enough to start a discussion' but are not forthcoming with examples yourself.

To answer your question, I'm thinking I will generate discussion by voting. And look, discussion there is.

Unvote, Vote ClockworkRuse

I think your fos sucks, it is superficial and empty of reasoning. Tell me, if you think that there are points of interest in yesterday's happenings that should be discussed, why aren't you pointing them out instead of calling people out for not discussing them?

[springlullaby]

Reasoning behind votes, please? (springlullaby, Erratos, and Gremwell)

Reasoning behind your non vote, please?

[Erratus Apathos]

Sorry if this is really obvious but why are you guys voting Potates and Crywolf?

The only reason I can fathom is that because not a lot of discussion went on on D1 and not a lot was learnt from the night kills, you are random voting until someone does something which is warrants discussion in which case you will unvote and re vote appropiatly.

It wasn't random (I specifically picked Potates because he only posted once), but that's the gist of it.

[Ythill]

Pirate Fact

With a swinging jib, a slick deck, and dozens of high-tension lines, a sailing ship was a dangerous place even when it wasn't being attacked by pirates. A single mistake, such as a sailor moving to his own left rather than an officer's when the order was given to move left, could cost a man his life. The left and right sides of the ship were therefore given unique names.

Port

, or the left side of the ship, was where the gangplank was located. When the ship was docked, the right side was toward the stars, or

starboard

.

Afore

and

abaft

were used to indicate front and back.

[ClockworkRuse]

Sorry if this is really obvious but why are you guys voting Potates and Crywolf?

The only reason I can fathom is that because not a lot of discussion went on on D1 and not a lot was learnt from the night kills, you are random voting until someone does something which is warrants discussion in which case you will unvote and re vote appropiatly.

It wasn't random (I specifically picked Potates because he only posted once), but that's the gist of it.

Then please say so when you begin to vote. But my FoS stays on this bandwagon.

[springlullaby]

ClockworkRuse, answer to my post please.

[Ythill]

"I hears me some chanties, but aint everyone a'ye singin!"

The captain withdraws his cat of nine tails, flogging both Potates and PlaysWithSquirrels.

The Tally

2 ~ Potates (Erratus Apathos, Gremwell)
1 ~ ClockworkRuse (springlullaby)

Not voting: Potates, PlaysWithSquirrels, humscunter, ClockworkRuse, crywolf20084, Jebus, militant

D2 Prod Count: Potates (1), PlaysWithSquirrels (1).

[ClockworkRuse]

I notice with great interest that you are claiming that 'there should be enough to start a discussion' but are not forthcoming with examples yourself.

To answer your question, I'm thinking I will generate discussion by voting. And look, discussion there is.

Unvote, Vote ClockworkRuse

I think your fos sucks, it is superficial and empty of reasoning. Tell me, if you think that there are points of interest in yesterday's happenings that should be discussed, why aren't you pointing them out instead of calling people out for not discussing them?

Look back at yesterday. I

DID

point things out.

Specifically, the wagon that started from the random voting. There is enough for you to go back and read to find what you find scummy.

So now you answer me this; How is it pro-town to start a second random vote instead of re-reading what we've already done and start discussion right away?

Instead, you chose to waste more the our time by going through a pointless vote that does absolutely

nothing.[/i] But obviously my FoS was without reasoning, right?

Explain to me how another random vote helps the town.

I will go back and find things that I've found scummy, but the lack of interest of re-reading day one on your part is noted.

[ClockworkRuse]

Because it essentially opened him up for the wagon you joined, are you telling me it's scummy to be suspicious of a wagon starting like that?

Starting like

what

? You're not saying anything about why you think Jebus's and my votes are scummy, you're just saying that they were. That rhetoric is unhelpful.

People don't react to the votes being evenly spread out. Wagons get reactions.

I'm with you matey.

unvote, vote: erratus apathos

React please.

I see what you did there.

Yer off ta a fine start, me mateys! I almost fergots ta tell ye... come hair nor high water, this watch'll end on Sunday, November 15th, at 15:00 MST (GMT-7).

An if me shipmates be too lily-libbered teh lynch by then, then what, Capn?

I don't like the fact that you put the third vote on someone, which is just about halfway to a lynch with six posts. Granted the chances of someone getting lynched like that are small, I don't see any positive reasoning for it. You might say to get reactions, but I personally have never liked that excuse.

[It wasn't rhetoric that was the problem, by the way. I just wasn't being concise. =D]

EBWOP;

See this, although I'm not sure how I feel about EA's play so fair. The last time I played with him, where I was scum as well, he preferred to sit back and let the town go at it and just make minor opinions. However, I don't find any of the actions he's made so far to be particularly pro-town.

Right MiteyMouse, I'll tell you right now that for meta reasons I think your restriction smells rotten.

Now let's see what you are made of: one squawk for yes, two sqwawks for no.

Are you a parrot?
How many words beside the emotes between asterisks are you allowed to use?(1 squawk for 1 word, 2 squawks for 2 words, 3 for 3, etc.)
Can you vote?
Can you fos?
Can you post multiple post (double posts, triple posts, etc.)
Can you communicate through codes with the emotes?
Are you willing to be lynched today because you look pretty useless to me?

I didn't really state much suspicion on this yesterday, besides that fact that I didn't like that fact that you were willing to lynch someone who is useless. Now I'm going to explain why I think you might be scum because of it.

If you were scum, you would be looking for the easiest lynch possible. Lynching someone who looks "useless" would open that up.

[springlullaby]

I like how you say 'waste more of our time', it is a strange notion.

And actually I reread day one and though that voting was a good thing to do.

[ClockworkRuse]

I like how you say 'waste more of our time', it is a strange notion.

And actually I reread day one and though that voting was a good thing to do.

What do you mean by strange notion?

Please, an answer to my questions.

[springlullaby]

I didn't really state much suspicion on this yesterday, besides that fact that I didn't like that fact that you were willing to lynch someone who is useless. Now I'm going to explain why I think you might be scum because of it.

If you were scum, you would be looking for the easiest lynch possible. Lynching someone who looks "useless" would open that up.

See http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 07#1329407

Plus did you see me actually voting her? My choice of the word 'useless' actually has a meta history, I played in MM's newbie, and lynched a player partly on the ground of them being useless, I wanted to see her reaction to that question.

[ClockworkRuse]

I was just interested in the intent of the question. Could I have a link to that game please?

And could you please answer the other questions in the post above that, how does another Random Voting Stage help us?

What was a strange notion?

[springlullaby]

I like how you say 'waste more of our time', it is a strange notion.

And actually I reread day one and though that voting was a good thing to do.

What do you mean by strange notion?

Please, an answer to my questions.

Crossposted, see above for answer.

By strange notion I mean that I think it is incongruous to invoke time as a frame for the game, I think it is the first time I see it used this way. It may be scummy or not. So whose time am I wasting exactly? Does my voting impede my answering you? Does it impede my generating content? Does it impede other people's ability to chirp in and contribute? Has time really a relevance here?

[springlullaby]

I was just interested in the intent of the question. Could I have a link to that game please?

Sure, post in question within game in question:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 32#1300432

And could you please answer the other questions in the post above that, how does another Random Voting Stage help us?

The function of a random voting stage is to generate discussion (talk of self-fulfilling prophecy), there is no element from yesterday that I wished to discuss that I haven't done, so why not another random voting stage?

[ClockworkRuse]

I like how you say 'waste more of our time', it is a strange notion.

And actually I reread day one and though that voting was a good thing to do.

What do you mean by strange notion?

Please, an answer to my questions.

Crossposted, see above for answer.

By strange notion I mean that I think it is incongruous to invoke time as a frame for the game, I think it is the first time I see it used this way. It may be scummy or not. So whose time am I wasting exactly? Does my voting impede my answering you? Does it impede my generating content? Does it impede other people's ability to chirp in and contribute? Has time really a relevance here?

It impedes that towns time for hunting, although I would say it has opened more discussion today... So maybe this is a moot point?

[springlullaby]

It impedes that towns time for hunting, although I would say it has opened more discussion today... So maybe this is a moot point?

Man, why are you asking me?

[springlullaby]

EBWOP It is you who raised the point in the first place.