Newbie 2044 | Game Over

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Hi!

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Do you have any previous experience playing Mafia?

I've played TOS and IRL mafia, if that counts.

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conftown:
town:
townlean: Hewhosims, Luca, Trendall
null: Lunar Martian
scumlean: Cook, Polaris, Donphan
scum: MiniM
please yeet:

Why do you have the two people who haven't posted anything as a "scumlean?"

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I'll get to reading the game so far later, since right now I don't have the time. Is there some sort of summary of what's happened in the past 16 pages, or should I just wait until I catch up for that info?

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What does LAMIST mean?

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Look At Me I'm So Town

Thanks.

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Hi, apologies for not posting. I need to catch up on the last few pages then I will share some thoughts.

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Ok, all caught up now. I've spoilered my reads and other thoughts because the post might get quite long if I don't.

Spoiler: My Reads

Mini-

Scum lean. This is because they've gotten incredibly defensive and say over and over they're not scum but they're hardly doing anything else. The scum slip of theirs also contributes to this read.

Luca-

Town lean. This is because they are pushing people for reads and other things to try and make the game move forward.

HeWhoSwims-

Slight Scum Lean. The previous person in this slot, Ben, got defensive in their argument with Trendall, and I feel HWS hasn't done much besides continue Ben's push against Trendall. I have it as a slight scum lean only because I think their argument with Trendall might be v/v. I also don't think they're wolves with Mini, who I suspect the most.

Trendall-

Null. I'm on the fence about Trendall, I have reasons to town read them and to scum read them. My reasons for town reading are that they're defending Mini from the scum slip, while she could be an easy mislynch. I could scum read them because most of their posts have been focused on Mini's slip or their argument with Ben. Overall, I need more time to sort Trendall. However, if I had to choose town or scum, I would say town.

Fredrick-

Slight Scum Lean. Their votes seem to be everywhere, and they're not giving much explanation for their votes and reads. I would like for Fred to give a full reads list with some reasoning.

Cook

and

Lunar-

I have both of these players as null because I'm having a hard time getting a read off of them from reading their posts. On D2 I hope to get a better read on them.

Tama-

Town Lean. This is a lazy read but I'm just getting a towny vibe from their posts, I guess you could call it a gut feeling.

I know have too many null reads for the end of day 1, but I'm hoping to get a fresh start D2 and be able to interact with everyone more.

Spoiler: Other Thoughts

- I think that Mini and Ben aren't wolves together because Mini hopped onto Ben's suspicions of Tama pretty quickly, and I don't think two scum would hop onto one suspicion together.
Trendall I also think is not a wolf with Mini. This is because Trendall defended Mini from the slip, which doesn't sound like something scum would do in only a 2 scum game. It'd make more sense for them to distance from esch other, nit to tie themselves together.

This is all I have for now. Ask any questions you might have about my reads and other thoughts.

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VOTE: MiniMegabyte

This is e-1 I believe

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Question for more experienced players; do you see defensive behavior like Mini's come from town or scum more? I'm personally inclined to scum read it, but I'm curious if that's common scum behavior or not?

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You did hammer

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Fred is my top suspect right now. Their votes are all over the place, and they don't look like they're scum hunting very much.

In 558 Fred votes Mini, saying they're guilty, which I assumed meant he thought Mini was scum. In 577 however, Fred says he thinks everyone but Trendall and Lunar. So, Fred, did you scumread Mini or not?

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Luca, why do you town read Lunar and Trendall? What do you think of Trendall's hammer?

Lunar, who do you suspect the most?

HWS, can you give some reads?

Trendall, why did you hammer Mini if you thought they were town?

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Fred is my top suspect right now. Their votes are all over the place, and they don't look like they're scum hunting very much.

In 558 Fred votes Mini, saying they're guilty, which I assumed meant he thought Mini was scum. In 577 however, Fred says he thinks everyone but Trendall and Lunar. So, Fred, did you scumread Mini or not?

I did when I said I did. I stopped doing so when I suspected other players.

So you can never suspect more than two players? Are you that confident in your scum reads? Did you really town read Mini just because you scum read others?

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Luca Blight, Lunar Martian and Polaris, detail how my voting patterns make me likely to be mafia.

It's not about who you vote, it's about why you vote. From what I remember, you've only explained one of your votes.

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I can't see any real reason to not no-eliminate

What's the reason to no eliminate?

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VOTE: Fred

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I’m starting to wonder if there was no kill because scum weren’t online during the night.

HeWhoSwims/Cook could easily be the scum team.

I don't like using reasoning like this, how do we know they weren't online at night?

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How is that a soft read against you? If anything, wouldn't it be more in your favor?

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Am I the only one suspecting Trendall, or is it simply because I am the only one playing the game?

I don't suspect Trendall very much right now, I have other people I suspect more.

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Gonna ask this again because I don't think it was answered. What's the point of not eliminating?

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okay Polaris seems mostly townie. However recent posts are mostly questioning and not much new. Have your reads or your top scum/townreads changed from 576? Who would you suspect aside from Fredrick? Even though I realise it might just be me

I suspect you the most besides Fredrick. I'm more.suspicious of Tama now, since they've hardly talked today.

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okay Polaris seems mostly townie. However recent posts are mostly questioning and not much new. Have your reads or your top scum/townreads changed from 576? Who would you suspect aside from Fredrick? Even though I realise it might just be me

I suspect you the most besides Fredrick. I'm more.suspicious of Tama now, since they've hardly talked today.

Yes, but why? I feel as though we haven't had any explanations about the "why" of it all ever since the post I linked, which is what I was hoping to get here.

Why I suspect you? It's because of the same things I said in the linked post, my read on you's not changed.

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I think Lunar Martian needs to be prodded

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So I'm thinking that Fred is Mafia. If Fred isn't Mafia though, I could buy Polaris and Trendall as the team together. I'm not sure who I'd guess was partnered with Fred, I'd have to go check. Trendall and Polaris seem to be defending each other.

Where did me and Trendall defend each other?

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I don't like how Lunar comes and posts once their name is mentioned.

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I don't like how Lunar comes and posts once their name is mentioned.

I mean fair enough, but you can look and see that I wasn't posting anywhere on the site, then I logged on just as you posted the message. The game has been pretty slow today and I've not been feeling all that motivated.

Also I don't like how I say I suspect Polaris and then Polaris immediately tries to discredit me by reciprocating that suspicion.

But you were posting elsewhere in the site, just a few minutes before you posted here. Also, can you answer my question?

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I don't see how I'm defending Trendall in 605. The other post I can see why you think I'm defending them, but it wasn't meant to be a defense of Trendall. I still null read them

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Hey Luca, I don't think you ever said why you think Lunar is town

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That's not defending though, is it?

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It implies that the Mafia weren't online during the night

You are talking about my post, right? Not Luca's?

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VOTE: Hewhoswims

I'm fine with voting him. He's another top scum read anyway. We also only have two days left, and I'd prefer not to no elim.

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Luca's town
Tama and Lunar are likely town
That leaves Trendall, Cook, and Fredrick, any of which I'd be fine with voting.
I think I'm going to look through the posts again and see which of the 3 players I find the most likely to be scum.

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I'm fine with voting cook.
VOTE: Cook

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That's E-2

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Ok I'll unvote for now then
UNVOTE:

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And now I'll vote him again

VOTE: Cook

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I'm really confused right now

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UNVOTE: cook

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To Luca, Cook is confirmed scum

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I don't get what you mean.

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I don't get what you mean.

Talking about 834

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You mean when he called Cook confirmed scum? They're talking from their POV

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I'm not really sure that Trendall and Cook are the exact team. What would be the point of Trendall defending Cook/going against Luca right now? It would just out them as the scum team and get rid of their chances of winning.

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It would be stupid to immediately CC that here as scum, it makes no sense.

What about a situation where it is setup B3, last night mafia rolecop identified the tracker. Today it wouldn't seem too stupid to me to sacrifice one mafia to make sure that the doctor gets eliminated now and the tracker gets killed tonight.

And also when people say things like that, you have to wonder why if it

would

be so stupid to CC there, then why do mafia never employ that as a strategy? No one would suspect them.

Would you want the tracker to claim?

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VOTE: Cook

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Yes

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If Cook is scum, his fake claim didn't come from him. He has an experienced teammate.

What makes you think that?

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I don't know. I would assume so, since you're technically still in the game

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You're the rolecop?

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Ok, I'm just gonna claim. I'm the tracker and I tracked Lunar to Tama. I'm 99% sure that they're the other scum. This is why I town read them in an earlier post today, because I thought they might be the protection role.

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Oh, and n1 I tracked HWS, they went nowhere.

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VOTE: lunar

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Well played everyone, especially scum. I think Lunar had a good chance of winning if I hadn't tracked them.