Newbie 2053 | Primroses | Game Over

[Enchant]

Hello, i solved game allready and in theory you can close it.

Roles:
Cook - Vanilla Townie
SiLentKilLeR - Serial Killer
Dew - Jester
endlessdark - Town Jailkeeper
Qspaces - Town Doctor
Enchant - Town Vigilante
Battle Mage (SE) - Town Mayor
WhemeStar (SE) - Condemner.
Prism (SE) - Mafia Goon.


Vote SK first so less night kills.

VOTE: SiLentKilLeR

[Enchant]

I'm with ya! VOTE: Silentkiller

Did Not_Mafia bite you, or something? We can still cure it, atleast before you start claim Jester and hammer everyone.

Why is htere only 1 VT

Mafia killed others before game, so yes, only one VT.

sweet, how about you, me, Cook and Prism?

I want join too!

[Enchant]

I'm from Phone, so no quote.

Yes, in my first game on this site i was Mafia, which won. That was Newbie 2042.

BM, i know reason, but rules... Eh. I make tip.
Someone playing more games than one.

[Enchant]

I only lolhammered one person at all, so i'm not converted in Not_Mafia cult, because once not count. Don't call me that.

Also, it's not like i need your townblock. It's your townblock needs me. So let me join or prepare for HORRIBLE results.

[Enchant]

I'm not sure, but we have different nicknames.
But fine, i will put it later.


About RVS overall, it's like reason to get started. If we start pushing some random people, they need provide reason, why they are townie and why other people is more viable to execution.

If no one votes, then... It will look like this:

Townie: So, who you think is mafia
Everyone else: I dunno, nothing happened yet.

And when someone point and scream "MAFIA" then game really begins. So, you can't play game without randomvoting at start or no elumination at all for hope of investigative PR. It just must be done.

If you have other ideas, how you will know who is suspicious without anything happened, then... Can you tell?

[Enchant]

Oh.
Prism replaced.

[Enchant]

Explain?

[Enchant]

I know it's question not for me. But...

Right now it was most silentive game in my history.

[Enchant]

Woops did my message twice. Also lunar do you have a reason for voting me except for the wagon?

Just how. Did you copypaste it?

Don't put people on E-1, unless you want them dead.

[Enchant]

When doublepost, you get two posts with same message. This is one post with two messages. So, how? Did you write it twice or just copied?

[Enchant]

Eh? What you mean by jumping, i just wondered how you did that.

Mafia have habit to carefully read what they read, so these mistakes rare.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Lunar Martian

I kinda like the vote, mostly because I think it's such an out there take.

Ok then, i hope you will enjoy mine.

VOTE: Lunar Martian

[Enchant]

Who you think is mafia then?

[Enchant]

VOTE: Enchant

I think this is my first serious vote

Oh no, not again.

I better take this.

VOTE: Dew

[Enchant]

Alright, i waked up.

You have questions?

[Enchant]

Hello

Welcome.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Enchant

my hero solve is Enchant-Cook - Enchant for the weird hammer and Cook for seeming a bit subdued.

With Cook you probably right. Sadly you too suspect.


Alright, i will say it directly. For who i say "Don't put on E-1, unless you want them dead"? Of course not for you, not for people who placed vote and wait before someone get reason or get bored. I had both and did i, because with this level of apathy, you WILL lose and it's time to shake up and start think, not just sit before time ends or our glorious mayor point who to kill.

About Dew. I didn't expect him being Town at all, because of last post. I tried ask some questions but i was kinda pushed. Better chance to get mafja that suicide, i kinda learn that.


About you (not only BM, but whole wagon) though, how many days i give you to unvote? Or maybe half of players don't read game at all? I'm damn certanly, there is mafia on wagon, just need think how much, and really is this possible for 3 (or even 4 townies which is damn unlikely, but if yes, i will scream on you at the end) sharing this mindset.

Also.

If you didn't learn, don't put anyone on E-1 unless you want them dead.

Yes, i even bolded it.

Now i will read game. Again, you can't wait for just BM catching all mafia for you now for obvious reason, so too do something i dunno.

[Enchant]

I start from Cook, as he is most likely get executed. It's hard to look with replacements so if i miss something, tell me.

Cook:
He is one of most silentive persons here. He said i acting weird, which is happens with me often. But, i asked reasons why he think so and he kinda ignored it. He also promised post reads, but instead just voted me and ignores even if he got voted. I suspect either passive townie or bussing.

I'm not even sure, if he is not interested in game at all or just lurking on intent. I expected lurkers to answer in some way, even "I don't know" or so. Atleast he place "E-2" remark now, which is good.

BM:
Battle Mage is hard one. After reading, i caught myself on thoughs i think he is mafia, just because he is Battle Mage. That's it. He look like townie, and i see reasoning in punching lurkers, and i'm also highly suspected Dew is mafia. But simple, i will clear him as town only after he die, he simply too experienced.

About Townblock, it's obvious joke of course, otherwise would he invite Prism in this, and then instantly agree vote her for lurking?
Also, about Prism and all replacements. I don't actually got, why you townread them. Can you explain again, what you mean by "High-Risk, Low-Reward" play?

You right, i hate hammers. This is dirty way to win. But this is still way to win, so when i see some trying to make me shapegoat, i have zero reasons to not hammer main suspect, before i become suspect myself, as it have more chances to kill mafia (Well you know, 0% against...). I will do this again, if necessary. If you displeased, well, you have way to avoid that.

You also pushing me, which look like you see easy target in me.

enlessdark:

... I dunno. It depends how many expireince he have in mafia at all. Atleast, assuming first votes like "not partner" is actually not good and expected only from someone, who playing first time or so.

I think he is newbie-town, but he actually knows termins very good, while i still learning them, but. Pushing BM after this hammer is really indicative he is Townie. Why? Well, i would scream "Enchant+Endlessdark" if i would't be Enchant self. I see no motivation for him as Mafia to go fight with BM (Expirenced player), instead of supporting push on me, which is certanly easy. Of course, this is possible BM and him is just mafia members, and this push is just to confirm like they are not partners. BM would coach him in private, and this could explain his knowledge in termins, but low knowledge about game. I find this unlikely though, as this is too risky. I need think about it more.


Prism and Lunar:

As you remember, i know reason why Prism lurking. Game ended, so i can just say, that's because she was Mafia in other game and win actually mattered from how she act. So yes, i find this good reason.

Before i say about my mind, i want get some answers first.

Lunar allready assume BM is mafia. Well, not without reason, but i really want know exactly why and after this i will think. So.

Why exactly you think BM is mafia and what you think about others overall? Do you think Cook is optimal vote? Is this possible for Cook+BM pair? Why you like when people vote you? Yes, that's reason why i voted you as well.


Cookie Monster:

Well, interesting. Points actually legit and i missed that. Probably my theory about Endless+BM may be truth. But in this case, i would more like to vote BM.

On other hand, i have nothing to add. This slot is not very active.

Foxxi:

He replaced Wu Wei and kinda not said anything. So let's see.

Many questions and trying to find, is BM is hyperactive or just mafia, which makes sense. He is either trying question BM authority, or simple townie who have same thoughs about BM expireince.



Overall, i want kill BM, but i see mostly this is my paranoia. Something is off with Cook, because i don't think BM-Mafia would push Cook-Mafia then, unless it blatant bussing. Maybe this is reason why Cook not so active defend self?

So if Cook killed and flips Mafia, i ask really to look after BM and still don't trust him.


P.S. Yes, i remembered about avatar. Placing it now.

[Enchant]

Enchant:

Analysis: The thing that stands out the most to me here is that he asked Dew who she thought was mafia, and never even gave her a chance to reply. He got one vote, and then hammered Dew. Interestingly Qspaces was at E-1 for something like 3 days without Enchant doing to him what he did to Dew with only one day at E-1. I don’t particularly buy the “don’t put people at E-1” advice as a town read myself either. I have done and said similar things as scum many times - it is easy advice to spew for empty town points. Like many of us here, Enchant is also a newer player but this interaction is the scummiest to me.

Why not hammering Qspaces surprise you?

[Enchant]

My intent was not just killing for laughs you know.

[Enchant]

I never even implied you did it for laughs. Are you trying to intentionally misinterpreted my posts?

Because i allready said.

Dew was my main suspect. While i of course question him, i hammered when though he would get away and put me instead. I didn't feel same way for Qspaces.

Which makes me wondering, did you even read or just trying force lynch.

[Enchant]

I had like three games there. On first i was mafia and won.

Now i get targeted by pissed town on first day, like allways. So yes, i have reason to suspect, when town want kill me. And yes, i still think hammer worth it.

Anyway, i claim Vanilla Townie. Obvious.

Right now my reads changed for a bit, because of semiactive lurking of Cookie after helpful notes.
Cookie, do you still.stick on Endless? How you think about my elumination?

[Enchant]

WhemeStar was lynched, silly.

I wasn't aware of this but I've just noted this.

Star died at night. What lynch?

[Enchant]

Dew is also dead, because i hammered him. You probably should read game before thoughs.

[Enchant]

I request that no one votes Cook until I am caught up because if the thread is locked, quoting posts is much more difficult and I have to click the pm button and copy paste it.

Enchant, that's quite rude. I am commenting as I read the thread.

Sorry, but you say you noticed this game before replacement and already jumped with reasons to call Cook mafia. So, you pointed you read game even before.

Which is really looking strange, because you also didn't notice two obvious things happened. Which really point you didn't properly read even first post, where moderator posts who died. It's understandable, but again, you already agreed with Cook being mafia, for which you need evidence.

I don't want being rude, just point that.

[Enchant]

I agree.

VOTE: endlessdark

[Enchant]

We did it. Last mafia member eluminated.

[Enchant]

I'm just gonna claim because I don't see you guys changing your mind -- I'm the other town mason.

Fine, i trust you.

[Enchant]

Game ended actually.

[Enchant]

Game ended actually.

? There's 2 mafs and 3 towns alive, what do you mean?

Need three votes.

One townie voted you.
We added. That's three. You dying.

That's 2vs2, and night.

[Enchant]

Did you just admit to being maf

Yes.

[Enchant]

Town could not have won this. Cook threw the game and even asked to be eliminated twice as town. He basically played against his win condition.

I asked same in my last game, because i always have problems with executions as town.

Probably not was great idea.

Still think it's fine.

[Enchant]

Unless Not_Mafia perform them.

[Enchant]

I think i was obvious mafia and not died just because of some magic tricks.

But i know how hard it looks from town. So i can just recommend not put people on E-1 unless you want them die.

Cookie, you played well. Just next time, be careful and don't throw votes, when this can decide game.

[Enchant]

Foxxi was dangerous. Really.

Did you play mafia early?