Newbie 2062: The Hubble Telescope - End!

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Initial tr on RationalMadman for actually doing stuff.
I don't think "sarcastic" RVS posts are that AI but I didn't like Andnte's reaction.

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Ivy is scum, I know it.

VOTE: Ivyeo

RVS?

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Why do you think my vote is rvs?

Because you say "I know Ivy is scum" without any reason.

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From my experience early gutreads tend to be from town. Also, this seems to be his first game in a number of years and not what I would expect from a brand newbie.
Demainer's entrance feels very forced, and nothing like 2060 where he came into the game cheerfully, scumread some people. Here he just votes Ivy (in an apparently serious vote) and says he somehow knows she is scum.
VOTE: Demainer

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Ivy is lean town for me if Demainer is scum. Other than that, I'm not sure about Ivy.

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my post was literally a joke? why are you taking it so seriously?

This post read to me as somewhat aggressive.

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What was it that you didn't like about Ivy's reaction?

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VOTE: rationalmadman

For me Rational is strong town and Andante is lean scum. Explain?

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Also what are everyone's thoughts on Demainer. His meta seems very different to 2060.

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Putting /s is not alignment indicative. It's kind of like saying in real life: "I killed your mom"
Someone could take that completely literally if they didn't perceive it was a joke.

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Demain is already leaning town for me, I love this. T3 is leaning scum, I don't understand a hard TR this early unless like you 2 are masons and you're deciding to out that this early - really dumb move if yall are


UNVOTE:

shush

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Vibes and early solvyness, basically.

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Demainer, do you havr any explainable scumreads?

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I feel like Andante did something of a subconscious slip. Andante says RM and I are masons, but why not scumpartners (from a town POV)?

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Town:RM
Lean town: Rathe, Ivy
Null: Clasko
Lean scum: orctin, Andante
Scum: Dem

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When did reaction testing someone become this hard .-.
I buddied up with RM so I could read him better, and to a lesser extent bait te nightkill. RM had a towny reaction to it, basically his reaction was like: but I don't know if you are town. I feel like scum would basically try to tr me and keep me alive. RM didn't do that.

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Town:RM
Lean town: Rathe, Ivy
Null: Clasko
Lean scum: orctin, Andante
Scum: Dem

Are you going to explain your sr on me, or are you just going to vomit reads without doing anything?

The pot calling the kettle black.

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Demainer is a strong meta scumread. Rational coming in with reads and contributing feels like town, I would see early scum as more cautious plus the reaction to the mason thing.
Rathe feels like town thought streaming. Ivy is mainly a lean town because of the Demainer interaction.
orctin almost feels like he is posting just for the sake of posting. Andante has had a terrible reaction to the pressure put on her.

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Demainer is a strong meta scumread. Rational coming in with reads and contributing feels like town, I would see early scum as more cautious plus the reaction to the mason thing.
Rathe feels like town thought streaming. Ivy is mainly a lean town because of the Demainer interaction.
orctin almost feels like he is posting just for the sake of posting. Andante has had a terrible reaction to the pressure put on her.

You go off of meta now? interesting. and you do realize not everyone is cautious and scared as scum? if scum asserts dominance early, they pretty much can lead the town.

My terrible reaction? lmao I think you're just scared of what I'm capable of

Okay, this is scum. VOTE: Andante

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Andante seems to be using classic scum Appeal to Winrate. Basically saying : I'm too valuable ton to lim.

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Andante's reaction to the whole sarcastic thing gut pinged me as scummy. Then Andante's defense was basically just: "You want to lim me because you're scum scared that you know what I can do. Then when rational AGREES Andante basically rage quits.

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being emotional will not allow u to play the game well

call me shit at this for all I care, it's how I play, and when people anger me, it's literally not good. so I'm stepping away for an unknown amount of time, cause I honestly can't deal right now.

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I don't think SE/Newbie really matters too much tbh, but yeah JV likely town lol I like his start, and I know what's to come in this game, so scum should be scared... unless he decideds to tunnel another town again lmao

I completely agree that SE/Newbies aren't leagues apart, SE literally just means they've played a few extra games and that does not equate to skill at all. Scum should indeed be scared regardless heh, because I still caught scum slippin' in that game even with my bad start lol

BRAND newbies are definitely different, but yeah.

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I did a mathematical run of a 9 player 2 scum mountainous a while ago and scum had about a 59% chance if we elimmed every day and a 71%chance if we no elimmed on d1.

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orctin had a good reaction but still not much content. Clasko hasn't made much of an impression on me and the only thing realy that I would scumread him for his Andante iteractions.

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Ivy feels like town thought streaming with the Andante back to null thing.

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Btw Andante JV is a viable team.

An undertoned agenda that could be interpreted in JacksonVorgo's decebt posts are to attacke and anyone they feel is viable to take the heat off of Andante. I did notice this but I did and do currently Town read it. I do notice it however, I'd like to see JV and Andante grill one another a little.

Did you read that game I linked you, they're acting

insanely

like that game and I am not wanting to eliminate that on day 1. You're also throwing me in there simply because your reads do not align with my own, and that's weak reasonings. Also you expect me to throw my reads away to grill a town-read of mine? Serious?

Grilling doesn't hurt.

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I doubt that a real doc claims with 2 votes. This feels like scum knowing they wil die and drawing out PRs early.

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Demainer looking townie. JV/Andante may actually be a viable scumteam.

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Andante's entire reads have been based on who scumreads her and she has had zero input outside of that. Then when pressure is applied she defaults to AtE, and then a PR claim.

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I will take the blame logic is bad but in newbie games usually town indicative.

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I think I might want to rethink this. Rathe, are you ccing doc?

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I'm mainly voting this because I think Rathe basicaly softed doc eith the vote.

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VOTE: RationalMadman
A death of a mafia and a pr isbetter than the death of an uncced possible pr. If there are any ccs then they should claim.

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@mod JacksonVirgo has been continually abusive to me and now called me a fucking idiot. I expect reprimanding.

Because I cannot believe you actually think the way you are and Its insane.

"Abusive" my ass, there is a difference between being flat out aggreasive because you are frustrating me and abusing you.

calm down
everyone lol

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2-goon setup is 2/3 probability of nobody CCing Doc eben when demanded to... It's perfect fakeclaim.

And it could just as easily be any of the other setups. These are all hypotheticals that will be resolved later in th game if uncced, or today if cced.

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Andante seems like real doc here. And I think that would explain the initial panic and bad reaction.
Rational might be town but has flawed logic. VOTE: Rathe

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Yes.

Anyway, let's see where this goes then.
VOTE: T3

@T3

full reads?

Town: Andante
Lean town: JV, VFP, Demainer
Null: orctin
Lean scum: Rational, Ivy
Scum: Rathe

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Yes.

Anyway, let's see where this goes then.
VOTE: T3

@T3

full reads?

Town: Andante
Lean town: JV, VFP, Demainer
Null: orctin
Lean scum: Rational, Ivy
Scum: Rathe

What changed with Andante to go from lying to telling the truth?

Andante had a very good reaction after te whole rage quit thing and I do not like Rational andRathe tunnelling.

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I'm VT. i'm not entirely sure what the case is against me. I think Rathe and Ivy could be a scumteam but I'm not sure.

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I was on the lim doc wagon becauseai assumed rathe softed it.

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I have to go for about two hours... School sctivity.

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I know everyone's basically going to say convenient timingbut do not hammer yet.

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Rathe started out towny, and his posts almost felt like reasonable thought streaming. Ht eAndante claimed doc. Rathe immediately votes. I took it as a doc soft, and I think Rational did for some time. But it basically turned in to single minded tunnelling. With Rational yelling Doc doesnot have to claim, and Andante got townier and townier. Rathe then effectively does not comment on anything, anyone's reads and just says: "I will hammer t3 you must vote this" Rathe's reasoning for voting Andante, the claim being antitown isn't actually valid. If everything antitown is scummy (I may be thinking of something else) then you not making a readlist is scummy.Doesn't make sense. And that's basicslly why I scumread Rathe.

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Good game. I don't think I player terribly for my first scumgame.