Newbie 2066: Gelato 2 -- End!

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Hello everyone!

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I AM THE SCUM AND I AM HERETO TAKE OVER THE WORLD OF NEWBIE GAMES. THIS IS MINE NOW.

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THE PUNY TOWNIES RUN AWAY FROM THE THREAD

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VOTE: Johnny
That hat? Really?

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Hoi ppl
What’s your favorite gelato flavor?

Probably chocolate

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Hoi ppl
What’s your favorite gelato flavor?

I'll be honest - I had to use a search engine to find out the difference between gelato and ice cream.
Raspberry is a good shout. I've always loved raspberry ripple ice cream anyways.

@Jumble - you'll be fine.

You traitor to gelatokind.
VOTE: Clasko

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Serious vote.
VOTE: fferyllt

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Hoi ppl
What’s your favorite gelato flavor?

I'll be honest - I had to use a search engine to find out the difference between gelato and ice cream.
Raspberry is a good shout. I've always loved raspberry ripple ice cream anyways.

@Jumble - you'll be fine.

A probably comes off as more confrontational than you meant here <.<

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Hoi ppl
What’s your favorite gelato flavor?

Probably chocolate

Chocolate's the best (:
Lez clear each other for the rest of the game?

Maybe...
*sits in rockhopper pocket*

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Hello all, sure is nice when you roll PR huh? Who shall I check on tonight, I wonder

No, no, no.
Whoever the prs are never ever claim unless someone has declared intent to hammer and it's E-1.

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Rqs:

1. What is your mafia experience?

2. Are you mafia, or town?

3. Favorite gelato flavor?

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Hello all, sure is nice when you roll PR huh? Who shall I check on tonight, I wonder

No, no, no.
Whoever the prs are never ever claim unless someone has declared intent to hammer and it's E-1.

sounds like you're a scumbag afraid of being busted, compadre

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That might have been a little harsh, you're a newbie.

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I'm not a newbie lol

Oh.

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Rqs:

1. What is your mafia experience?

2. Are you mafia, or town?

3. Favorite gelato flavor?

6 years on various communities and irl.

serial killer

chocolate

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I think Roden meant that sang is either joking or baiting scum.

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Let's not talk more about the pr claims, I'll explain why later.

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Hello all, sure is nice when you roll PR huh? Who shall I check on tonight, I wonder

VOTE: sang froi
Works better as PR bait imo

yeah seriously wth
VOTE: sang froi

VOTE: jumble

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Actually VOTE: rockhopper.

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Do you seriously think a (supposedly) experienced player like sang would just claim pr as scum knowing full well it will get everyone's attention?

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Huh okay.

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But it's like some 4D chess shit so I can't really explain atm

Could we have a peek into the mind of Guyinfreezer?

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Roden, thoughts on Rockhopper?

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Townpoints to Vax for 116, I'll explain why later.

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Current reads, most are gut.
Me: me
Town: sang, Vax
Lean town: Roden, gif
Null: Clasko
Scum: Rockhopper
If I forgot people then I probably don't have a read on you yet. Jumble idk yet.

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btw I have both T3 and rockhopper as town

This mainly pinged me as town.

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I hope you’re not townreading me just for townreading you lol

Nah, it was the take about me and rockhopper as a pair.

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allez

This has turned from you wanting pagetops to put the vcs on to theft.

I have a very strong tr on Vax for reasons that I don't want to explain right now but it was the post Rockhopper is voting Vax for that pingedme as town the most.

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I'm not scum reading GIF, just voting him to see if anyone would follow.

Roden is showing some town tendencies with his thinking. I don't thing scum!T3 points out my town slip like that, so prob town.

Let me think a bit.

Yeah, I thought it was a play to see if newbscum would also vote.

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Who are said townreads?

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...they haven't posted. We should at least wait for them to post once (or their slot gets replaced with someone else and they post.)

Speaking of that,

@Mod

Can we at least get a prod on Johnny going?

I think Johnny is on vla.

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Or was on vla.

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If rock flips town I think Clasko might be someoneto look at.

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Yeah but the fact Vax didn't actually say what he was doing seemed towny. Like it felt like a natural thing,, not something to get towncred for.

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Jumble is my biggest questiomark right now. He seems to be self conscious about his posting but I can't tel whether it's town or scum self consciousness.

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At that point it's WIFOM. Regardless of that though, if there exists a scum motivation to make that post and with good reason, it's not a townslip. So I suggest you get off that crutch if you want to be townread.

*tvt intensifies*

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also we don't use "lynch" anymore

In a recent game I played the mod used "refloga"

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Honestly I know my reasons for tring Vax are probably bad but he's still town.

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y

Post 116 I would never ever see coming from scum. The rest of his iso is terrible though.

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I'll reread Vax's ISO. I understand the wagon but I gut + 116 tr him.

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"Typically I'd just push something through, but this is a newbie game and I want to see what you guys got."

This.

To clarify, I want the newbies to make some decisions and not just take over the game. Again, I should not have made the

above statement

as it comes off as a little elitist/rude/

too obv town

to the other mafia veterans.

Just saw this. You...

shouldn't

have said it because it would make you obvtown?

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This is just scum saying "the wagon is pure so I will vote it"
Not hammering Vax.

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And we’re running out of time so

Intent to hammer

We're not limming Vax. VOTE: GIF

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VOTE: clasko

I will also take Johnny.

Rest are town.

[visible confusion]

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I vote you for voting Vax... then you unvote vax.

Convenient timing.

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@T3 I think this is actually +town for GiF but I won't explain today, sorry

but I think it makes more sense to spare him and go in his SRs BoP style

The mysterious mind of guyinfreezer....
UNVOTE: gif

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I have no idea.
I'll reread.

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VOTE: Rockhopper after a reread.

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I need to hear from more people on this. The sudden Vax town read gives me bad vibes and 4D chess isn't enough of an answer.

Sang, what about GIF's sudden change from intent to hammer, to a180 u-turn into a town read, is compelling to you? What are you seeing that I don't?

Jumble, what's your read on the situation? Do you lean Johnny or Vax more as scum?

T3, I don't disagree about Rock but I seriously doubt we're voting Rock today at this point. Why the vote on him?

Clasko...man, I just need you to speak up more. Don't make me paranoid by staying silent so often.

Rock, I assume you're staying on Vax since they're part of your hero read. How does GIF's town read affect this?

Vax, did you give up?

Johnny, are you even playing?

I think he is scum. There are 2 days left before the deadline which is more than enough time for a wagon to materialize.

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You keep going back to my reasons and persistence, but continue to ignore the fact four other people are doing the exact same thing that I'm doing. Why are you only focused on me but continue to ignore everyone else even when they continue to shade you? T3 just voted for you and you didn't even react. Sang and Jumble still scum read you and you couldn't seem to care less. You're only just now voting for Clasko after ignoring all game, and it looks like you're only doing it because I don't want to vote for him.

T3 and Jumble I townread and think their suspicions are genuine.
Also forgot about T3's votes.

@T3:

why GIF when you thought he was town in 265?

You seem more likely to flip red compared to sang.
Because apart from his initial sr on me, his reads feel logical and towny.

Voting Clasko rn cus I realized that Vax's play has a lot more reason to come from town than scuum.

Rock, I assume you're staying on Vax since they're part of your hero read. How does GIF's town read affect this?

Still my hero solve but I'm fine with voting either tbh

So you're scum reading four people but not voting for any of them? Or even trying to get a push going on them?

And you're wondering why I think you're scummy??

I scumread Clasko, Vax and you.
Vax to a lesser extent now tho.

I was pretty sure Vax is town so I voted gif for pushingVax. I did not think gif was scum but we weren't limming Vax.

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sang froid died last night. He was a

Vanilla Townie

Pretty sure the scumteam is 2x newbies by this kill.

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Hello all, sure is nice when you roll PR huh? Who shall I check on tonight, I wonder

I reread during the night and this is a non-pr slip.

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VFP is town.

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sang froid died last night. He was a

Vanilla Townie

Pretty sure the scumteam is 2x newbies by this kill.

+ ^

It's the perfect move if both scum exist in {Roden, Jumble, T3}

Scum!GIF's read on my slot in 383 is highly negative wincon since I've expressed a strong townread on him prior to this, and my flip will only bring him more unwanted attention.
Sang's death along with Clasko's rep out is + town for the slot (I think) because apart from GIF's scumreads, his slot if scum was in a better than average position with the tracker's elim.

Jumble's read on Roden in 380 makes me believe that exact combination is less likely, since I don't think newbie, self-aware scum place their partners so high in fear of giving away too much information.
That coupled with my already existing TR on him points to a solve of {Roden, T3} with T3 being more likely to flip red.

VOTE: T3

So you think I'm scum with Roden.... so I naturally frame Roden and Jumble?

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T3 I hate you so much

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Btw the reason for my 180 on Vax yesterday was because I thought T3 was softing a mason with Vax.
Sang saw the same thing which is why he told me my approach was +town.

Makes sense.

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I kind of forgot about this game.

Gif/Rock?
Idk though.

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VOTE: rockhopper for now.

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I know I'm townreading Vax for terrible reasons but that post was just bleeding town.

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UNVOTE: rock until the replacement is found.

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Anyway, I would like T3's explanation of why it's supposed to be town-indicative, rather than Vax's.

Basicaly it seemed to me like Vax placed a random vote to try and get possible newbscum to vote along with him.

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Anyway, I would like T3's explanation of why it's supposed to be town-indicative, rather than Vax's.

Basicaly it seemed to me like Vax placed a random vote to try and get possible newbscum to vote along with him.

Can you go over GIF for me?
Why is GIF scum with Rock?

spreads

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idk wheat John

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wtf is happening to my physical tu

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My autocorrect decided to be strange and corrected a paragraph or my writing to just "spreads"

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I scumread rock a lot and light sr gif independent of rock.

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Ongoing from yesterday. Mainly that he claims to have solved the game but then didn't vote.

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I'll explain why later.

Town!T3 never says this. His reads are usually as is. No explanations needed.

It was because explaining why would ruin the point of Vax 's post.

Recently I've had a lot more time with school break + COVID so I've been playing a lot more.

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Very

doubt.jpg

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We played the Tic tac toe open and ydras game.
I think you also replaced into a scum slot in murdercats game but you were only around for a few hours before dying.

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VFP is probably town.
IDK about hem.

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Electoral college mafia.

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Verifiable lying is NAI, if anything it's town indicative.

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IDK where to put my vote.
What concerns me is that GIF was tunneling VFP then sheeps them.

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Well thats not true.
If anything I sheeped GIF there?

Oh, mb.

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Vax is at e1.
Unvote please.

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THIS IS SO TOWN

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THIS IS SO TOWN

In which universe?
Or do you know something that we don’t?

Look.
Scum Vax knows he's going down. What does he do to make it easier on his partner? Claim pr to draw out the cc.

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I think I’ve seen enough for today.

VOTE: Vax

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Wait a minute.

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The scumteam consisting of GIF, ffery, and Cabd have won.

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*supresses the 'i told you all vax was town' instinct*

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Anyways... Vax townslipped.

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Honestly it's that I just don't know who ti push.
hem has been good but rock was terrible.

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In your POV, HEM has been pushing town all day. Why have I been good?

Oh wait you weren't pushing roden lol

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Yes
no

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I had it in my head that hem was pushing Roden so by POE it made sense for one of hem/roden + one of vfp/umlaut
I'm a townie.
Look at how as soon as hem starts pushing Umlaut sheeps.

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Also, the protect for towncred theory only works if I'm actualy allowing Vax to be limmed.

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Vanila townie.

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Hem is townie by ongoing games but scummy by play.

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scummy by play

how? you just said hem has been good

I explained that earlier.

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So I'm only good if I've been pushing Roden? Why?

POE

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Locktown: Vax Gif
Leaving Umlaut, VFP, hem, Roden

VFP and Umlaut could be a team, but I hadit in my head you were pushing Roden. So that left no associatives.

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Townslip and GIF orcehestrated the townslip.

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But you had Vax as virtually locktown the whole game. Why? You went in the way of elim. Why? You weren't even masons.

First, there was the newbie bait post, which was very towny. And I agree. His ISO is is bad. But he hasn't approached th game with an agenda to get someone limmed and is providing reads and trying to solve.

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I was town.

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Good game!:)
Thanks for modding.