Newbie 2102 | OPs from 2002 | Postgame

[catboi]

~Newbie 2102: OPs from 2002~

Moderator:

catboi

Backup Moderator:

Prism

Player List

1. Mr Turtle
   **
   
2. MightyCannon
   SirRhett

   *
   nucleartemperature
   
   
3. evileeyore
   *
   
4. CCGeek
   *
   
5. Nektarios
   **
   
6. HighPrincessErinys
   
   
7. Corwinoid
   * (SE)
   
8. Bellaphant
   (SE)
   
9. Spartan117
   * (SE)

(bold indicates confirmation, asterisks indicate prods)

Spoiler: Alive

Bellaphant
Corwinoid
evileeyore
Nektarios
Spartan117

Spoiler: Dead

CCGeek,

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated Day 1
HighPrincessErinys,

Town Mason

, killed Night 1
MightyCannon,

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated Day 2
Mr Turtle,

Town Mason

, killed Night 2

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Ruleset

(shamelessly taken from Hectic by way of Prism, with my own modifications)

1. Fundamentals

• All site-wide rules apply. Read and respect them.
  
• This is a game. Have fun, and keep the game fun for other people. This might be the most important rule.
  
• There is no personal communication regarding this game outside of this gamethread & associated PTs.
  
• Do not quote any private communication (either real or fabricated) with the moderator, backup moderator, or fellow players. Do not reference timestamps of private communication.
  
• Do not engage in the use of trust tells.
  
• Heated discussion and debate is allowed, but personal attacks are not. I reserve the right to protect my players, and all other community members. Please PM myself and the backup moderator if you feel something needs our immediate intervention.
  
• If you make a post indicating that the game is having a negative impact on your out of game relationships or well being, you will be warned or forcibly replaced, depending on severity. If you believe the game is having a negative impact on your life, send me a PM rather than posting about it in the game thread.
  
• Play to your Win Condition.
  
• Don't post when you're dead ingame.

2. Phases & Activity

• Please post at least once every
  36 hours
  . If you fail to do so, you will be prodded. If you fail to respond to said prod within
  24 hours
  , you will be replaced.
  
• At the time you would receive a third prod, or fail to respond to a prod by posting in thread within 24 hours (or by PM if at Night), you will be force replaced.
  
• Day 1 will have a
  10 day
  deadline and all subsequent Day phases will have a
  7 day
  deadline. Night phases will last for
  2 days
  . If necessary, extensions will be granted for the purpose of securing replacements.
  
• Votes must not be spoilered and should be in the format of VOTE: Player or
  Vote: Player
  , or they will not be counted. Abbreviating someone's name is acceptable, so long as I can discern who you were voting for without trouble. If I think it should count as a vote, it will.
  
• Unvoting is not required, but is much appreciated.
  
• The following is a list of outlawed shenanigans:
  • Using invisible text, codes, cryptography, etc.
    
  • Editing your posts (if you have the power to do so)
    
  • Quoting any PTs you may have access to
• If any of these offenses are committed, I have the right to force-replace you from the game, or, with listmod permission, modkill you.

3. Miscellaneous

• Do not impersonate the moderator.
  
• Feel free to address me in-thread, but if there is a large egregious mistake please PM myself or Prism. Small matters like errors in the votecount can be posted in-thread.
  
• I can be reached on Discord most of the time at
  catboi#5376
  - feel free to add me.
  
• I have the final say on any issue. If you disagree with any action or inaction taken by me, feel free to PM myself or the relevant listmod, PenguinPower.
  
• While I have tried to be thorough, I reserve the right to take corrective action with or without warning for any issue I feel was omitted in this ruleset.

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Setup Info

Newbie Setup

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

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Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

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Currently, it is pregame. Role PMs are being sent out now. Respond to your role PM with your role name and alignment to confirm you have read it.

All players will have 48 hours from the time their role PM is sent in order to confirm. If they do not respond within 48 hours they will be replaced.

The game will begin after 48 hours have passed, or 8/9 players have confirmed and 24 hours have passed.

This post will be updated to show progress toward game start.

---

All role PMs are now out!

If you would like a private topic to keep notes for this game in, PM me to request one.

8/9 players have currently confirmed.

Game start timer: (expired on 2022-09-21 23:15:00)

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With 8/9 confirmed, Day 1 can now begin! Thank you for your patience!

Vote Count 1.00

Full Metal Panic
Studio: GONZO

Not Voting (9):

Bellaphant, CCGeek, Corwinoid, evileeyore, HighPrincessErinys, Mr Turtle, Nektarios, nucleartemperature, Spartan117

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is October 1 at 5:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-01 17:00:00)

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nucleartemperature did not pick up his role PM and is being replaced.

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SirRhett replaces nucleartemperature.

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mod note: use any of the following formats to bold your vote. Bolding ensures the vote is visible both to me and other players.

Code: Select all

[b]vote: playername[/b]
[vote]playername[/vote]
[v]playername[/v]

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Vote Count 1.01

Kanon
Studio: Toei Animation

Bellaphant (2):

Nektarios, evileeyore

SirRhett (2):

HighPrincessErinys, Bellaphant

Spartan117 (1):

Corwinoid

HighPrincessErinys (1):

CCGeek

Not Voting (3):

Mr Turtle, SirRhett, Spartan117

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is October 1 at 5:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-01 17:00:00)

Mod Note:

am i kawaii uguu

[catboi]

nya

Does this mean something?

that is just my placeholder post for a vote count, apologies for the confusion.

[catboi]

Sending a prod in advance to Mr. Turtle since I'll be asleep when he's due for a prod in a few hours. If he posts before then it will not count as an official prod.

[catboi]

prodding CCGeek.

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Prodding Nektarios and Spartan117.

[catboi]

Prodding evileeyore.

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Vote Count 1.02

.hack//SIGN
Studio: Bee Train

Bellaphant (3):

Nektarios, evileeyore, HighPrincessErinys

CCGeek (2):

Mr Turtle, Corwinoid

HighPrincessErinys (1):

CCGeek

Spartan117 (1):

SirRhett

Mr Turtle (1):

Spartan117

Not Voting (1):

Bellaphant

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is October 1 at 5:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-01 17:00:00)

[catboi]

Prodding Nektarios.

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Vote Count 1.03

Tokyo Mew Mew
Studio: Studio Pierrot

CCGeek (3):

Mr Turtle, Corwinoid, Spartan117

Bellaphant (2):

Nektarios, HighPrincessErinys

Spartan117 (2):

SirRhett, evileeyore

Corwinoid (1):

CCGeek

Not Voting (1):

Bellaphant

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is October 1 at 5:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-01 17:00:00)

[catboi]

Prodding Mr Turtle.

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Prodding SirRhett.

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Vote Count 1.04

Digimon Frontier
Studio: Toei Animation

CCGeek (4):

Corwinoid, Spartan117, Nektarios, HighPrincessErinys

Spartan117 (2):

SirRhett, evileeyore

Corwinoid (1):

CCGeek

Not Voting (2):

Bellaphant, Mr Turtle

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is October 1 at 5:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-01 17:00:00)

[catboi]

Usage of the term "lynch" in games on Mafiascum has been phased out due to its historical association with racist violence in the United States. The preferred terminology in Newbie games is "eliminate". Players are free to use different words of their own choosing but please refrain from using that word going forward.

[catboi]

Vote Count 1.05

Chobits
Studio: MADHOUSE

CCGeek (3):

Corwinoid, Spartan117, HighPrincessErinys

Spartan117 (2):

evileeyore, CCGeek

Mr Turtle (1):

Bellaphant

Nektarios (1):

SirRhett

Not Voting (2):

Mr Turtle, Nektarios

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is October 1 at 5:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-01 17:00:00)

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Vote Count 1.06

RahXephon
Studio: bones

CCGeek (3):

Spartan117, HighPrincessErinys, Nektarios

Spartan117 (2):

evileeyore, CCGeek

Mr Turtle (1):

Bellaphant

Nektarios (1):

SirRhett

evileeyore (1):

Corwinoid

Not Voting (1):

Mr Turtle

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is October 1 at 5:00 PM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-01 17:00:00)

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Vote Count 1.07

Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Studio: Sunrise

CCGeek (5):

Spartan117, HighPrincessErinys, Nektarios, Bellaphant, evileeyore

Spartan117 (1):

CCGeek

Nektarios (1):

SirRhett

evileeyore (1):

Corwinoid

Not Voting (1):

Mr Turtle

With 9 alive, it took 5 to eliminate.

[catboi]

CCGeek

was eliminated Day 1.

He was a...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

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Bomberman Jetters
Studio: Studio Deen

It is now

Night 1

.

The deadline for Night 1 is

October 1

at

1:00 AM EDT

. Submit night actions by PM, if applicable.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-01 01:00:00)

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[catboi]

Princess Tutu
Studio: Hal Film Maker

HighPrincessErinys

died Night 1. It was a

Town Mason

.

[catboi]

It is now Day 2.

Vote Count 2.00

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Studio: Production I.G

Not Voting (7):

Bellaphant, Corwinoid, evileeyore, Mr Turtle, Nektarios, SirRhett, Spartan117

With 7 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 8 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-08 01:30:00)

[catboi]

Please don't post when you're dead. I realize this was omitted from my rules, it has been corrected.

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

@catboi 9 Alive?

Fixed, thank you.

[catboi]

Given the site downtime over the weekend, I will be extending the deadline by 3 days to compensate for lost time/people getting their bearings back.

[catboi]

~

[catboi]

Vote Count 2.01

The Twelve Kingdoms
Studio: Studio Pierrot

Not Voting (7):

Bellaphant, Corwinoid, evileeyore, Mr Turtle, Nektarios, SirRhett, Spartan117

With 7 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 11 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-11 01:30:00)

[catboi]

Sending an unofficial prod to Spartan117 and SirRhett. This will not count against their prod limit.

[catboi]

Vote Count 2.02

GetBackers
Studio: Studio DEEN

Corwinoid (1):

evileeyore

SirRhett (1):

Mr Turtle

Mr Turtle (1):

Bellaphant

Not Voting (4):

Corwinoid, Nektarios, SirRhett, Spartan117

With 7 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 11 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-11 01:30:00)

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Vote Count 2.03

Witch Hunter Robin
Studio: Sunrise

SirRhett (2):

Mr Turtle, Spartan117

Corwinoid (1):

evileeyore

Mr Turtle (1):

Bellaphant

Spartan117 (1):

Nektarios

Not Voting (2):

Corwinoid, SirRhett

With 7 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 11 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-11 01:30:00)

[catboi]

Prodding SirRhett.

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Vote Count 2.04

Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi
Studio: Gainax/MADHOUSE

SirRhett (2):

Mr Turtle, Spartan117

Spartan117 (1):

Nektarios

Bellaphant (1):

evileeyore

Corwinoid (1):

Bellaphant

Not Voting (2):

Corwinoid, SirRhett

With 7 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 11 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-11 01:30:00)

[catboi]

A reminder that HighPrincessErinys uses it/its pronouns. Please try to be mindful.


Looking for a replacement for SirRhett.

[catboi]

MightyCannon replaces SirRhett.

Vote Count 2.05

Rockman.EXE
Studio: Xebec

MightyCannon (2):

Mr Turtle, Spartan117

Spartan117 (1):

Nektarios

Bellaphant (1):

evileeyore

Corwinoid (1):

Bellaphant

Not Voting (2):

Corwinoid, MightyCannon

With 7 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 11 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-11 01:30:00)

[catboi]

@catboi
I has question: Okay, so reading the rules of the game, it looks to me like if we don't get four people together to vote one person, we aren't using plurality voting, so there would be no Day Elimination in that case? Right?

Correct, no majority means no elimination.

[catboi]

Prodding Mr Turtle and Spartan117.

[catboi]

Hey sorry been really ill with a high temp, not trying to give excuses just saying where my heads at, I just checked the activity thing and mine says 1 day 11hrs, just wanted to check because isn't it in the rules to get force replaced on or after the third one?

The third prod is a replacement. I had sent out this prod slightly early, as you posted before 36 hours of inactivity the prod is rescinded.

[catboi]

~

[catboi]

Vote Count 2.06

HeatGuy J
Studio: Satelight

MightyCannon (2):

Spartan117, Corwinoid

Spartan117 (1):

Nektarios

Bellaphant (1):

evileeyore

Corwinoid (1):

Bellaphant

Nektarios (1):

MightyCannon

Not Voting (1):

Mr Turtle

With 7 alive, it's 4 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is October 11 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-11 01:30:00)

[catboi]

Prodding MightyCannon.

[catboi]

Vote Count 2.07

The Secret of Cerulean Sand
Studio: Telecom Animation Film

MightyCannon (4):

Spartan117, Corwinoid, Bellaphant, Nektarios

Bellaphant (1):

evileeyore

Nektarios (1):

MightyCannon

Not Voting (1):

Mr Turtle

With 7 alive, it took 4 to eliminate.

[catboi]

MightyCannon

was eliminated Day 2.

He was a...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

[catboi]

Haibane Renmei
Studio: Radix

It is now

Night 2

.

The deadline for Night 2 is

October 13

at

1:00 AM EDT

. Submit night actions by PM, if applicable.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-13 01:00:00)

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Kinnikuman Nisei
Studio: Toei Animation

Mr Turtle

died Night 2. He was a

Town Mason

.

[catboi]

It is now Day 3.

Vote Count 3.00

OVERMAN King Gainer
Studio: Sunrise

Not Voting (5):

Bellaphant, Corwinoid, evileeyore, Nektarios, Spartan117

With 5 alive, it's 3 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is October 20 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-20 01:30:00)

[catboi]

Vote Count 3.01

Kiddy Grade
Studio: GONZO

Not Voting (5):

Bellaphant, Corwinoid, evileeyore, Nektarios, Spartan117

With 5 alive, it's 3 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is October 20 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-20 01:30:00)

[catboi]

Vote Count 3.02

Ojamajo Doremi Dokkaan!
Studio: Toei Animation

Not Voting (5):

Bellaphant, Corwinoid, evileeyore, Nektarios, Spartan117

With 5 alive, it's 3 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is October 20 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-20 01:30:00)

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Vote Count 3.03

Petite Princess Yucie
Studio: Gainax

Not Voting (5):

Bellaphant, Corwinoid, evileeyore, Nektarios, Spartan117

With 5 alive, it's 3 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is October 20 at 1:30 AM EDT.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-10-20 01:30:00)

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Prodding Corwinoid.

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Vote Count 3.04

Naruto
Studio: Pierrot

Corwinoid (3):

Nektarios, Spartan117, Bellaphant

Nektarios (1):

Corwinoid

Not Voting (1):

evileeyore

With 5 alive, it took 3 to eliminate.

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Cowinoid

was eliminated Day 3.

He was a...

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

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Nektarios

and

evileeyore

have been endgamed.

Congratulations to the

Mafia

team of

Bellaphant

and

Spartan117

for achieving victory!

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Thread opened for postgame discussion. I'll have comments to follow shortly.

PTs:

Mafia: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89941
Mason: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89942
Dead: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89968
Mod: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89940


Mafia and Masons have 24 hours to request any redactions to their PTs.

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Side request; Prism has a stronk analysis game, if it's not too indecorous, I'd like to know from Prism if they think Spartan or Bella made any slips that Town didn't capitalize on?

Not sure Prism has much time to actually be reading things these days, she's mostly here to take the game over if I get hit by a bus or mauled by a bear or something

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So, my thoughts on the game:

- I think the rand was difficult for the town because two SE players could dominate the conversation more effectively. The newbies at the start of the game were a bit lost as to how to get things rolling, and with two scum SEs they didn't get much in the way of help. This makes me miss the old IC position in newbie games a bit. I think oftentimes the best thing you can do as a town SE in a newbie game is explain the basics and try to encourage people to talk more.

- The CCGeek elim was a classic case of a player doing something that is seen is weird/awkward, and then everyone starts confirmation biasing what they say as being scummy. I think in particular one thing he got attacked for, prematurely claiming VT, is something that

almost always comes from town

. You're not

supposed

to claim your role early but having seen dozens of newbies do this, a townie is significantly more likely to out their role early, because it's the first thing on their mind. You have to separate an action being anti-town from an action being one that makes sense for scum - scum are typically a lot more cagey about claiming.

- For a minute, people seemed to be drawing the right conclusion from the Erinys nightkill - that kill likely pointed to at least one SE being scum, because newbie scum would be far more likely to target an experienced player. The problem was the town got sidetracked with the sirrhett/mightycannon slot. It's hard to do much about that, unfortunately - when a slot gives you almost nothing to work with, it's hard to deal with, because even if it's town, you can't trust it to be helpful and not a liability in the late game. Unfortunately, the site downtime probably hurt this - being down for almost 2 days probably killed a lot of the game's momentum (it might have killed Rhett's interest too. I assured him it wasn't a typical thing but he flaked and stopped responding to me). Even though I reset the deadline, it probably took people time to get started back up again. This was compounded by MightyCannon replacing in and not doing much. I'm partly to blame here - I should have extended the deadline because there was a replacement, but I thought the day had enough time left, only for mightycannon and turtle to both hit prod range within 12 hours of the deadline. There's no pre-set defined rules for deadline extensions but in the future I'll remember to give an extension for a replacement by default.

- Nothing to be said about Turtle's inactivity except that the lack of commitment to the game from a confirmed town slot was really unhelpful. If you sign up for a game you need to make an effort to keep up with it.

- By the game reached 5P, the mafia had pretty much already won. It is exceptionally hard to come back from such a situation with no clears, as it basically requires every town player to get it right. Nek and EE both had half the team but were wrong on the other, so even if one f them had voted right, there was a very good chance the other would have voted against them. That's what successful scum teams usually do - they split the room, because the most important thing is preventing anyone from getting the team right.

- Not much commentary for the mafia team except to say congrats and well played.


That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Thanks for playing, everyone. Hope you enjoyed it - please stick around if you did.

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Why would a prod hurt your motivation to play the game? I don't understand.

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To clarify I'm not blaming the prod for my inactivity - that was totally on me. I don't know why the prod hurt my motivation, I think it may be a weird me thing

I can understand maybe getting anxiety about falling behind in a game and because having to catch up can be stressfull and that leads to wanting to put it off

but a prod isn't a personal statement, really. just a nudge from the moderator to make sure you're still playing.


Anyway, I was a bit late but all PTs are now released!