Newbie 2102 | OPs from 2002 | Postgame

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: evil eye

Was way too eager to get started, must be scum :)

"can't wait to start killing!" -evileeyore, probably

[HighPrincessErinys]

nucleartemperature did not pick up his role PM and is being replaced.

scum down

[HighPrincessErinys]

Your scum has arrrrrivvvvvvved!

VOTE: SirRhett

A truly blatant confession indeed

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: sir rhett

Let's get moving.

RVS or not, it WOULD probably be a prick move to vote out the newbie who JUST got replaced in.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: sir rhett

Let's get moving.

RVS or not, it WOULD probably be a prick move to vote out the newbie who JUST got replaced in.

I would agree with this if we were say several days or a dozen pages in but Tis but the second page

Are you against pressure in general? or just pressure to Sir Rhett?

Shrimply being nice! Y'know, before the finger pointing starts in earnest.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Am kind of agreeing with Rhett on Bellaphant. CCGeek still hasn't shown up so that's whatever, but directing people towards wagons just feels very "hmm" in general. 'Overly eager' is a good descriptor.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Looks like we haven't made much progress in day 1, but am going to point out that HighPrincessErinys completely ignoring the vote on itself (am I correct in the pronoun usage btw?) is kind of weird.

(You are! To quickly explain also, "you" is the correct way to refer to this one directly, as it's seen so people refer to it in the third person aswell, but that's just kind of a self-reference only thing. Anywho...)

Not really too concerned about one singular vote from RVS. Speaking of RVS however, this one should probably extend that courtesy it was talking about to Rhett, especially when he makes some good points.

UNVOTE: SirRhett

[HighPrincessErinys]

As for the "Unvotes'... what?

ABC

!

A

lways

B

e

C

ulling! It's our duty, nay even our

sacred and solemn

duty to eliminate scum! We can't do that if no one is getting voted off!

Now don't get your feathers all ruffled. We still have several days (real days, that is) to choose the lucky winner of a free guillotine demonstration. This one lingered on Rhett specifically because newbie solidarity and courtesy and etcetera aside, it still knew that hey, someone had to get voted off. But now it's not quite so sure Rhett is the ideal for that, at least today when we have so little info as is.

If you'd prefer for it to actually point the finger of suspicion at someone directly, then here you go: VOTE: Bellaphant

This one doesn't particularly care either way, it simply thinks their eagerness to BW (and direct others to BW) is... a bit suspicious, is all.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Why is bw-ing scummy? Your vote is your voice in this game, wagons are the only way to make progress on day one.

If one's vote is their voice, then this one says: "Yeah perhaps that's true, but this one just doesn't entirely like the vibes of it in this case. But it also doesn't really have much of a scumread on anyone yet so you're the next best choice. Shrug."

[HighPrincessErinys]

Hoo boy, you folks sure got to discussing. Will try and process this more in-depth and add it's 2 Cents later, right now it's busy.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Okay now...

CCGeek's reaction to that silent vote was definitely poor. But also do think that Spartan leading the argument is... Not necessarily scummy, but certainly worth keeping in mind. Don't entirely agree with eeyore's idea of what it could be, but this one knows from experience that implicitly trusting an unconfirmed "Town Leader", as it were, isn't always a great idea.

UNVOTE: Bellaphant

Don't really think Bellaphant is worth the vote anymore, especially since the SEs are all seemingly familiar with one another. That being said, not really sure on who

WOULD

be. For all of CCGeek's suspicion, this one still isn't too sure about putting him to E-1. Do not particularly suspect/distrust Spartan enough to vote him either.


Speaking of "experience" though...

This one doesn't really remember when exactly it learned what a Mafia actually was, but it played about a hundred hours of Town of Salem on Steam some years back, haven't touched it in about two. Do however occasionally play on mafia.gg, which is real time and automated, so alot alot different than here. If Trouble in Terrorist Town counts, it's played a decent amount of that over the years too. This one is overall not very used to forum Mafia, so it's play is perhaps a bit "off", maybe.

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With 5 and a half days left, what makes you think we're even close to a hammer? If anybody quick hammered before a claim and discussion they would be the obvious elim tomorrow, which is suboptimal as either alignment.

Considering this is true, and how much more this one thinks the VT generalization thing is a very bad backpedal...

VOTE: CCGeek

Back to E-1.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Not even entirely sure of how scum Geek could be because alot of his behaviors could be genuine slipups from being so new to this specific kind and culture of Mafia, but still probably gonna stick to him out of caution.

As for evileeyore... Could he be scum, stirring the pot intentionally? Town doing the same? Actually not trying to be mean, just coming off that way? No clue, but this one is pretty sure that getting confrontational with him about it right now is meh when we have a potential flip right under our noses. Wringing CCGeek for all he's worth (perhaps including his life) then seeing what's up with things (and eeyore) tomorrow seems like the way to go to this one.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I meant geek, not rhett!!

In what post?

However, my focus is on sir rhett now. I don't know what to do with 'vt', 'meatsheild' , 'conf;town', 'i mean however you read me.' feels like flailing.

Definitely second that it feels a bit like desperate backpedaling. Because of a rookie mistake, or because of a scum messing up? Who can say...

[HighPrincessErinys]

That's a really odd chain of logic and assumptions to frame someone else's actions and be self aware of how they reflect your alignment.

Why are you justifying your partners actions?

Worth considering that if CCGeek is scum, he could just be baiting us into killing town by getting buddy-buddy with them and then flipping scum. That's only a possibility, but either way this one wouldn't jump

straight

to labeling Turtle and Geek as scum partners. Yet.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Definitely agree with Turtle on a few of his points, mainly about Nekt's role fishing and weird "I have suspicions but I won't elaborate on them." Like yeah, it's implied by default that everyone has suspicions but isn't explaining them for one reason or another. That being said, this one doesn't think it'll be pushing Nekt for the day. CCGeek still feels like the elimination today, and while this one acknowledges that not hammering is more information, it feels like there should probably be a limit, lest we use up all of our initial 10 days squeezing CCGeek (and others it seems) dry. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Not at all, but this one thinks pushing everything to time is a bit... MUCH.

As for things that AREN'T whining about time, Mr. Turtle definitely has an interesting opinion on the situation that could raise a few eyebrows, but this one certainly wonders how much a hypothetically scum CCGeek is trying to put suspicion on him too, as eeyore stated and this one said before in #155.

In general, CCGeek's play has been erratic ever since the pressure really started coming down on him, and more than a little scummy. This one's sticking to it's guns on that. Though if it HAD to pick someone else to point the finger of suspicion at, it'd be Nektarios rn.


...Also wondering where Spartan is...

[HighPrincessErinys]

Alright so. I am here to argue for the fact that I should be voted out regardless of whether I'm VT (which I am) or scum. Here's the thing: in Eeyore's words, I'm apparently painting a picture that "Turtle is my scumbro". Assuming Turtle is NOT scum, if the actual scum decides to hop onto the Turtle wagon and not eliminate me, he'll flip green. And then if Scumfac eliminates someone whom I've not seen eye to eye with in this game, or a very dangerous townie with good reads, I'm getting highly sussed on D2 and in all probability voted out, either way. No questions asked. Assuming we are unable to get good inspects N1, this basically creates a losing scenario for the town fac. So if anyone shifts off me into Turtle, they will have a SR on them. Considering Erinys is looking to eliminate me D1 and Corwin does not show signs of wanting to shift, I'm mainly concerned about Spartan here, who has been MIA as of late.

This is SUCH a strange post, even suicide aside.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Dont know if ive ever seen a double intent to hammer at exactly the same time, I get the desire for more communication and the only reason not to have more imo is to prevent the scum from getting any potential PR reads for their nk. But with at least 6 people happy to be on this wagon its strange to me how there has been so much dancing around it like musical chairs.

YEAH IT'S. Really weird how we've suddenly split the vote so much to other people instead of focusing on CCGeek. Atleast we're back to E-1

As for some of your other points:
It's getting kind of obscene how long CCGeek is being kept alive, considering the entire mountain of strange things attributed to him. This one has already said it doesn't entirely like how long we've stretched this out, discussion or no. Though it imagines others prefer that.

Mr. Turtle is... so-so. Can definitely understand his hesitation to hammer, even if this one disagrees with it. Worth watching in the coming days. Neutral read at the moment, still wary of CCGeek trying to muddy the waters, as you noted with his 'townreading' of SirRhett in particular.

Happy twilight folks.

Silly Corwin, Day 1 and ONLY Day 1 is 10 days long!

[HighPrincessErinys]

That's where paranthesis are on my phone... (but I did find a few more nested submenus for symbols and found them there) still hate phone posting, it's giving me carpal tunnel (stupid tiny stylus).

Anyway, reread Spartan's previous games (told ya was bored). I don't necessarily think he's right, but I no longer think he's wrong.

HAMMER TIME
VOTE: CCGeek

Hats off to Day 1 after eight days, everyone!

[HighPrincessErinys]

Well, seems like this one's scum reads were all moot. Post 101 was serendipitous though.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Just remember guys it's always a team of SEs, from here on out I shall be a Newbie and avoid all SE affiliations.

I should have stuck with my shitposter instincts, could have had this game solved Day 1... :mrgreen:

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