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Hello all! I'm excited to play this with yall! This seems like a fun group of players!! (I say that, but idk anyone except one hahaha) but it's ok, I don't have to know you to look forward to the game!
Yall are very quiet... HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND
hahaha nah, but on a real note I'd love to get to know a bit about yall! I'm just kinda curious how long yall have been playing mafia, your favorite role or alignment to be, and pronouns to call you by, cause I don't think many of you have pronouns listed on the site (and I'd like to refer to you correctly!)
I'll start, I'm Andante, I use she/her pronouns, been playing mafia for like 11 years, I'm from chat mafia, fast paced games, and have been around here for about 2 years. I'd say I prefer playing as mafia because it's a little easier to have "good" reads lol versus town, it's like "uhhhh you! no wait, you!!" hahaha-
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pshhh change your vote as often as you want!!! I do it like 2-3 times a day XD It’s not bringing suspicion from me!!!In post 41, chaodck wrote:
Interesting... hahahaa.In post 40, Black wrote: VOTE: chaodck
I get weird vibes from people that use the word "interesting" too much in mafia. Why not vote for breeze if you are already scumreading him?
I already voted, for usesPython. Changing my vote this early and quickly would only bring more suspicion into myself. And I have them both under my eye, as that interaction seemed a bit forced to me.
Also, @whoever didn’t want to vote cause… I forgot the reason, I mean, 3 of us are voting for Mala who hasn’t said a word yet, need 5 votes to lim, you are fineee!! No hidden votes here!! We’re not actually yeeting anyone this eary in the game, plus you can always unvote if you don’t like votes flying to your sr-
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I… also get SRed for flipping so much, but like it’s how I am, so unless you want to change how you play, feel feee to just play how’s most comfortable!! like to me, I don’t really care who people are voting in RVS, and later all I care is that there’s an actual reason behind the vote!In post 49, chaodck wrote:
To be honest, I hadn't realized you had voted, I missed your first post (I read that part of the thread late late last night). I also had thought you needed to unvote, before voting again (now I see you just vote for another user). I get your point, as I said. I'm just wary of changing my vote early and quickly as in the past I've been targeted for doing that (when I was a newbie-newbie in onlne forums Mafia).In post 47, Black wrote:
Do you think it's scummy that I've changed my vote already?In post 44, chaodck wrote: Still, I think that changing votes quickly, is scummy.-
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also can I just say, Reddit has mafia?? I have never even heard of that lol that’s kinda cool!!!-
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Ayyy MU!! I got too used to here lol, MU too fast!! Too much brainpower… then again, anni/mashes are… chaos XDIn post 54, WizKvothe wrote:
Alright, I will explain why I said mafia first. It's because on MU site I had written "mafia" as my fav alignment so I thought you could argue that I had set that alignment on MU(if you saw me there) so I thought it's safe to say mafia first otherwise you might think I was lying if i had said town. Btw, the MU profile is updated to reflect town now. Hope I made sense....lolIn post 39, Black wrote:
I guess I'm just confused why you said mafia is your favorite if it's not anymoreIn post 36, WizKvothe wrote: No, it's not mafia anymore plus I don't see discussing this is beneficial...lol
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yeah sooo I have no actual SRs right now lol maybe scum is just in those not posting… MALA!! hahaha got 1!!!-
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I find it interesting you want to bring this up, like maybe just cause I've been SRed for flipping my vote so many times so like, I know EXACTLY what's being talked about but like, wht would your opinion be on someone flipping their vote 50 million times?In post 61, Black wrote: @chao - you mentioned people thought you were scum for changing your votes so much. Were they right about you or were you displaying this type of voting behavior as town?
hmmm
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As I said earlier, I wouldn't let let 1 or 2 times result in you having to change from how you like to play/what feels best, cause to me, that would be more of a scum move "I'm scum this game, so I'm going to be playing differently, since obviously I'm not trying to find my partner, so let me just use this as an excuse for why I'm playing different, rather than just playing as I do, and trying to find scum! regardless of what others think of my methods"In post 62, chaodck wrote:
Hey, great question!In post 61, Black wrote: @chao - you mentioned people thought you were scum for changing your votes so much. Were they right about you or were you displaying this type of voting behavior as town?
When it happened (and thus, when I decided to change my patterns haha), I was a vanilla townie, killed on a day phase, wrongfully.-
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gg gottem
VOTE: usesPython-
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good points? interesting, I didn't feel like they were even game related? like, I've played MU, I'm guessing Wiz has same username there, there's literally a "favorite alignment" thing, didn't want to get called out for it, makes sense, not sure how anything Black said was really a "good point" thoughIn post 67, brzeczyszczykiewicz wrote: From a quick overview: Black good points about Wiz.-
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and that's enough for you to start thinking Black town? even though it wasn't related at all to this game?-
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yeah no im not voting python, they're town, you don't just give away how you read someone as scum-
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no rush no rush, never a rush!In post 75, Black wrote: I've got some stuff to do and then I'll respond to you Andante
and mala probably really is scum
VOTE: Mala
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you aint seen nothing yet... hahahahah
nah but fr that was just cause so much talk over it lol later I'll probably naturally flip a bunch XD
calm? idk what that is-
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VOTE: Black
of the people posting, she's who I sr the most, nut at least 1 of Mala/nothingNew are very likely scum-
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oops, fixed itIn post 81, Andante wrote: VOTE: Black
of the people posting, she's who I sr the most, but at least 1 of Mala/nothingNew are very likely scum-
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I mean yall aren't lock town or anything, I just like yall enough for now to not want to vote, and would rather we started pressuring some slots that aren't super towny, and hey if it's a python/black team, I'm voting black, so wooooIn post 83, usesPython wrote:
Interesting, why'd you discount the possibility of a Black/Python scumteam where I ask Black if that's still their meta and they tell me they changed it?In post 76, Andante wrote: UNVOTE:
yeah no im not voting python, they're town, you don't just give away how you read someone as scum-
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It is page 4, and no one is doing much game related, I'm not exactly commiting to a partner read right now. idk why you want me to sr you so much-
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scum read
and tr is town read-
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I literally said I liked the 1 thing because people generally don't just hand out their tells as scum. It's not like I locked you away as town in my books, it's more, I don't feel like pressuring you right now, I voted you solely because someone else was, and we need to pressure someone with the rvs votes, you gave that tell, and I was like, ok, I don't really want to push someone who is more likely than not going to be town.
I will make it really clear to you, I do not tr you. I just said that was a good line-
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do you want me to vote you? I can?? I don't see where this is going-
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ok look, can we talk or something, I am not scum. yes I agree scum find it easier to TR people, that being said, there is 0 reason to SR ANYONE RIGHT NOW.
Wouldn't you agree, me generating conversation, figuring out how experienced people are at mafia - is a TOWNY BEHAVIOR
me just being here so much - IS A TOWNY BEHAVIOR
like, this 1v1 or whatever is literally just keeping people from posting, I'm not sure of your goal at all, I feel like I've been nothing but towny?-
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whatever, I'm just stepping away, I'm not scum, and if you can't see it. sorry. I feel like I've been trying my best TO solve here with the little info given, as well as just talk to people, cause conversation will result in something, I said I wasn't a fan of the non game related argument, but hey, "scum prefer to tr people" and me disagreeing with someone's argument clearly fits with that, so maybe I really am scum, or this is my sign that we hate me actually trying to generate reads...-
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I think you're partners with mala lol, so uhh mala as scum, most of the time does not do muchIn post 140, Black wrote: I think Mr. Skies entrance is just...ok. I disagree on Python/breeze...it's reverse for me. I think python is probably town and I'm scumreading breeze atm
Also I'm not sure why there is a "decent chance" mala is scum here. Can you elaborate?
this post is like "how did you catch my partner who hasn't posted yet"-
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Hear more of what?In post 190, Black wrote: Still hoping to hear more from Andante when she gets time. This is probably my top SR atm
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also, wtf is with me being chaotic towny? I know what chaotic me looks like, I've barely been chaotic here? Saw a bad push on me, I didn't like it, but it's not like I sr the person pushing me, and I'm kinda really busy IRL through Friday so don't fully care? I definitely was a little annoyed with whoever was like "andante chaotic towny, must die" like, really? I'm not even chaotic here? gave thoughts, had a little disagreement with someone, that was that? like, at least I was here and doing stuff, cause I'm here and doing stuff, providing content, and my content is original - even if I literally don't remember what I just said in my last post, if you're calling my play chaotic, we might need to define chaotic here, cause I can tell you, I do not do well with pressure, never have, probably never will, and votes on me = pressure "so what, it's just 1 or 2 votes" well yes, I know I am town, and internally it feels like I have failed my 1 job as town here, cause someone is SRing me, and I'm trying everything in my power to make it clear to the other town here that I am town, so in turn, yall can TR me, and be 1 step closer to having the correct solve. Which I can read into your reasoning and TR you if you're actually trying to scumhunt, or SR you if I think you're a wolf. simple as that.
uhhh tldr: I'm just really busy IRL through friday, I keep missing notifications from yall, uhh you can requote/yell at me some more if you want, this weekend I can really answer whatever though (probably saturday moreso than sunday) but comments like "still waiting to hear from Andante" like what? what are you waiting to hear from? all I'm getting is, you're taking python's side cause python called you town and you see what happened to me when I called python scum, so you'd rather just join that side and call me your top SR for no real clear reason other than you know I don't tr you? I just fail to see how I would be your TOP sr here when there's definitely someone else I have my eye on and am interested in seeing how they progress, but I'm your top sr? mmk... I'd definitely love to hear more on how I'm #1 when you get a chance. Cause scum definitely does what I've done this game, scum goes "heyyyy people share your experience, I'm curious" why would I care how much mafia experience anyone has as scum? I care as town because I feel like knowing the level that people are at should help, like the MU player we have? should be posting a lot more than they have so far.... MU players tend to post a bunch, however, I haven't seen anyone do much of anything other than the "ANDANTE IS CHAOTIC TOWNY! DEATH TO CHAOS!" since me v python, like MU person even said they're used to faster game.. ok, well why have we not had reads from them? (If we have, my bad, I didn't see it)
I liked Mala's entrance, she might be town If she is town, scum better watch out cause this is going to be a good game!
ok, I think that's all, lol I'm looking at "tldr" and it's a giant paragraph... lmaoooo the real tldr is uhh don't expect too much from me for the next 48 hours, but I just want people to start posting!!!-
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lmaooo that hurts my eyes. I'm sorry, uhh that post is probably garbage/not worth your time to read ._.-
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Hey Wiz, who is your TOP tr and/or sr right now and why?-
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sorry <3 I just haven't read a whole lot that I've liked... from anyone tbh like, there's 1 "push" on whoever for "you're copying reads" but I feel like too many voices are quiet? idk, that's what it feels like, and like the one is focussed on me being so chaotic, someone else is calling me their TOP SR, like, how? I don't even think I've been scummy this game?In post 208, Brian Skies wrote:
I'm slightly hurt by this.In post 205, Andante wrote:I haven't seen anyone do much of anything other than the "ANDANTE IS CHAOTIC TOWNY! DEATH TO CHAOS!" since me v python-
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NO NO DON'T SAY THAT!!! YOU GOT THIS!! I'm also definitely feeling this way, I'm not taking much away from like any of this right, like normally, 200 posts in I feel good about a read somewhere, I'm pretty lost, so you are not alone in this! Never jump to the "I might be too dumb" conclusion!!!In post 212, chaodck wrote: I might be too dumb for this game-
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excuse me? want to explain?
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or you know, literally make any effort to discuss these reasons you SR me... with me?
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If Brian is scum Black is town cause Brian was trying to get me to give the reasons I SR a town, to in turn keep Black against me, but then also come up with whatever "case" against me to vote me out, idk, I'm seriously SRing Brian for this jump to the slow wagon on me, like this wagon is literally after my post I went "I don't do well with pressure" and normally if you SR someone enough to legit vote them (not the rvs bs) you talk to them right? like hey I sr you for X, can you clear this up?-
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like the fact Brian is purposely ignoring me here... literally can not be town
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whatever, if we're just trying to tunnel me this game, congrats all, yall have successfully annoyed me, He definitely just read where I said I do bad under pressure, he knows I have 2 other votes on me, this brings me to e-2, just casually dropping the vote then disappearing after in 201 calling someone else out for sheeping, whatever, I'm literally trying my best over here, yet no one seems to care. like hello??? whatever. I'm e-2. 2 more people just want to vote me out? cause clearly "voting out the TOWN" is the best move here cause it's not like I'm doing anything other than solely causing chaos..
if I felt solid about the black sr I'd have been voting there? I'm not defending reasons to SR black if that's not truly what I want to do, sorry not sorry. I'm town and if no one can see it? ughh ok I'm getting too emotional tonight, it has been a LONG day/week and it's not close to over, I'm literally town, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN DO TO SEEM TOWNY. IM NOT BEING VOTED FOR LEGIT REASONS AND I AM NOW E-2.. great work yall-
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Ah, thanks.In post 226, Brian Skies wrote: Also, if you have a problem with pressure, then maybe Mafia just isn't the game for you.-
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yeah, rvs, then left my vote off anyone when I was over rvsIn post 230, Black wrote:
You were voting thereIn post 220, Andante wrote: if I felt solid about the black sr I'd have been voting there?-
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if I'm not really explaining a reason, it is most definitely not a strong read, I usually tunnel my SRs, whatever my reason for the initial "this is sus" I probably said it here, I don't remember, brian is scum though, so I don't care about chasing down whatever I was feeling in rvs, cause I don't have much timeIn post 229, Black wrote:
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I thought you scumread me?In post 96, Andante wrote: there is 0 reason to SR ANYONE RIGHT NOW.
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I can explain why I brought it up. Chao was saying he doesn't want to get scumread for switching votes around so in my mind that tells me he thinks switching votes around is scummy. I asked the question above because I wanted to know if people scumread his vote switching when he was town, because that implies that vote switching can be done by either alignment and is therefore NAIIn post 64, Andante wrote:
I find it interesting you want to bring this up, like maybe just cause I've been SRed for flipping my vote so many times so like, I know EXACTLY what's being talked about but like, wht would your opinion be on someone flipping their vote 50 million times?In post 61, Black wrote: @chao - you mentioned people thought you were scum for changing your votes so much. Were they right about you or were you displaying this type of voting behavior as town?
hmmm
VOTE: Black
I'm not even sure why you scumread this from me?
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VOTE: Andante
Why did you say we have 0 reason to SR people after you dropped an SR on me? Also what was with your Python TR contradiction?
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I don't think you have even explained your SR on me? From what I can tell you misinterpreted my question to Wiz regarding vote switching and ran with itIn post 81, Andante wrote: VOTE: Black
of the people posting, she's who I sr the most, nut at least 1 of Mala/nothingNew are very likely scum-
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yeah, seemed odd that isntead of start talking game you just wanted to stick to "hmmm maybe people actually caught you as scum for flipping votes!!"In post 64, Andante wrote:
I find it interesting you want to bring this up, like maybe just cause I've been SRed for flipping my vote so many times so like, I know EXACTLY what's being talked about but like, wht would your opinion be on someone flipping their vote 50 million times?In post 61, Black wrote: @chao - you mentioned people thought you were scum for changing your votes so much. Were they right about you or were you displaying this type of voting behavior as town?
hmmm
VOTE: Black
and like, seeing chao now, I really do not blame chao for not wanting to participate right now, like the "I can't do this!" post, hello, I ask for how people play to have a general idea of what to expect. if you're telling us you flip votes a lot, then from the start people go "HMMMMMM" if just flat out ruins the "well town!chao flips votes a lot, ok!" like, I don't think I've seen Chao actually do much?? chao feels scared to play, but like all this back and forth people keep doing with me, it is most definitely discouraging people from participating, cause I'm trying MY BEST, getting eaten alive for it, so now we're stuck having to figure out if people are scared town or scared scum, and that's just hard to read, so yeah, I hate interrogation out of the gate based on playstyle-
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yeah cause I needed an rvs vote and I was previously sheeping the person on python, then didn't feel like pressuring thereIn post 81, Andante wrote: VOTE: Black
of the people posting, she's who I sr the most, nut at least 1 of Mala/nothingNew are very likely scum-
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the response to those 2 are above, def not even close to an actual scum read tunnelIn post 233, Black wrote:
64 and 81 do not seem like random votes at allIn post 231, Andante wrote:
yeah, rvs, then left my vote off anyone when I was over rvsIn post 230, Black wrote:
You were voting thereIn post 220, Andante wrote: if I felt solid about the black sr I'd have been voting there?-
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I consider RVS to be RVS until actual gameplay talk is happening, the playstyle conversations aren't content.In post 235, usesPython wrote: Though I'd disagree with still being in RVS, I feel like we already got out of it by page 1-
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I know what you were implying "like oh, they scumread you cause you were scum THAT game" which yes to be fair I took pretty personally cause I'm SRed just about every game for "changing my votes/reads too much" thus the passion I have behind that topic. also, thus the reason I opted to just let you be. right before I SRed brian and I said you were sr or whatever, I had only skimmed content since last time I was here and yes, your name was my sr then, I remember that much, but if I'm not actually voting you, it's either moreso to gage where others are at a read on you, or idk, I was out of it last night, so who knows, but hey, brian claimed scum soooo yeahIn post 239, Black wrote:
You didn't read my explanation of this comment to chao. Please scroll up a little and read it. I was not implying chao was wolf at all with this commentIn post 236, Andante wrote: yeah, seemed odd that isntead of start talking game you just wanted to stick to "hmmm maybe people actually caught you as scum for flipping votes!!"-
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I have never just done a vote like I did with mala, every game I literally throw "convincing" reason with my rvs stuff. every single game. it helps put pressure rather than a pointless wagon, cause if it's scum they panic like "oh no! I was actually caught" I don't believe in just "haha random vote" but I saw a mala vote and couldn't resistIn post 241, Black wrote:
You had already placed an RVS vote on mala though. This didn't feel like a random vote. You put meaning behind itIn post 237, Andante wrote:
yeah cause I needed an rvs vote and I was previously sheeping the person on python, then didn't feel like pressuring thereIn post 81, Andante wrote: VOTE: Black
of the people posting, she's who I sr the most, nut at least 1 of Mala/nothingNew are very likely scum-
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I will later, I have to catch bus now!In post 244, Black wrote:
Please read 106In post 239, Black wrote:
You didn't read my explanation of this comment to chao. Please scroll up a little and read it. I was not implying chao was wolf at all with this commentIn post 236, Andante wrote: yeah, seemed odd that isntead of start talking game you just wanted to stick to "hmmm maybe people actually caught you as scum for flipping votes!!"-
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UNVOTE: [\uv]
can we not actually lim anyone till I have a second, thanks, This week has been hella stress, I can catch up tomorrow-
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lmaoo love mobile.. idk what I did.. I broke it :/
just trying to unvote!!-
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whether you think the slot is scum or not, I still say at least give replacement a chance. like, voting out scum with no interactions doesn't make this easy, but letting the replacement interact, gives way more info, and also if it's a town slot, giving the replacement a chance allows us to see town slot... I see no point in racing towards a lim there right now, we literally still have 5 days till deadline, not sure why "MUST LIM NOW" is feeling like the vibe here.
sorry for my absence, had 2 exams, so much stress. I'd like to try and find a scum today, delta,blue.. welcome, idk who yall are replacing lol
WAIT. MY REDDIT MAF FRIEND IS GONE? HE WAS COOL!!!-
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Doesn't make sense?In post 385, Deltabreedy wrote: @Andante - That doesn't make sense. You make two points in #383:
1. That the replacement should be given a chance to speak and contribute. (I agree with this.)
2. That there's no point racing towards a lim right now. (I also agree with this.)
What doesn't make sense is that Black's actions align with point 1, but then jumped onto a wagon putting it to E-2, Blue puts it to E-1 and there's no commentary on it beyond what seems to be 'I disagree with this'. No thoughts on what's happened there at all?
For context, I replaced Wiz, and Blue replaced Nothing's New.
yeah the 2 points are like what I was saying, is this the race to the brian wagon yesterday? yeah no thoughts cause I'm not really reading, if I were reading, I'd have more thoughts?
I don't want to lim black if that's what you're asking?-
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but if scum is trying to look as towny as possible here, do you think it comes from scum?In post 386, Deltabreedy wrote: That reaction to such a small comment is awful to be honest, Black.-
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idk man, like, that's just how my brain works although the second part is more me thinking you want to lim black/sr black, and me going "uhh nah I don't think that's the case here"-
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VOTE: Kawaii
this slot is maf-
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you're town, my reddit fried was town (I believe that's Delta now), python is town, and mala leans town, I just need more from her to commit her to a tr, scum is someone else.In post 440, Black wrote: @Andante can we get a reads list from you?
I'm good with brian lim here, brian is making no effort to be like "I am town, this is scum" so that is likely scum not trying to give partner away-
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oooh could this be scum TMIing me town? I might need to revisit my read there... but ehhh brian is a fine lim for todayIn post 452, Black wrote: In Andante's case it seems like you have had several issues with her posts and there have been multiple things you've pointed out that you don't like, but I'm not seeing any TRs, so why is she so high up on your list?-
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blue posting recently, I forgot blue was here, that slot is very likely scum I think. Blue + Brian.
can I hammer brian or are we still waiting on someone for something?-
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nah I'm good,
lets do this
VOTE: Brian
there's been plenty of options to claim already-
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brian has been e-1 for DAYS.. no one has been opposed to a brian lim, so why would I not hammer-
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Oh but there isIn post 502, Deltabreedy wrote: I don't think there's any good reason as it stands to keep Andante in the game-
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also like, you were voting Brian, why are you coming at me like it's my fault Brian flipped town? I said I was going to hammer, if you had an issue you could have unvoted, so like, to stop you from wasting your time, I'm pr, go find scum elsewhere-
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