Newbie 2126: Art [Game Over]

skitter30 · Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:51 pm

I got nothing out of wayward's iso

skitter30 · Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:55 pm

In post 944, SmileyDude1 wrote:
In post 852, SmileyDude1 wrote: UNVOTE: Skitter30.

Ok, so Wayward was either the killer or the target confirmed then. It's getting pretty late where i'm at, and I need to think this over. I'll probs be back on in the morning or afternoon. Ideally with fresh thoughts on the matter. Until then :]
Sorry about my absence, I was unfortunately preoccupied yesterday, The long absence did give me a chance to think long and hard about this though and I think i've come to the conclusion that it's more likely Wayward's Slot was the killer in this situation.

This is the final vote count of day 1:
In post 539, Aisa wrote:
1.09
Votecount 1.09 (final)

Political Clout (5):
Merlyn, SmileyDude1, camelCasedSnivy, Radical Polaroid, Eiralox -
Eliminated

Merlyn (1):
Political Clout

Radical Polaroid (1):
TheHoldSteady

SmileyDude1 (1):
skitter30

Not Voting (1):
Alianna

With 9 players alive, it took 5 to eliminate someone.

The only person voting Radical Polaroid's slot at the end there was TheHoldSteady, Wayward's predecessor. Given the defensive posturing that slot gave off day 1 and the confirmed Jailkeeper connected to that slot I think i'm of the belief that RP jailkept TheHoldSteady with intent of blocking them from killing. VOTE: Wayward Son

This is such a strangr vote as partners. Like ... baffling

skitter30 · Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:56 pm

I really think it's alianna here

skitter30 · Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:56 pm

I shouod provably iso Eiralox as well soon

skitter30 · Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:36 pm

I'm still kinda hung up on the fact that there's a *lot* of waffling on overseer in your iso, your smiley vote looked like you decided he was doomed so decided to bus, ans how much shade you kept throwing towards the ali/rp slot - a lot of that read like you were trying to sow doubt in the claim and/or were trying to avoid acceding that the claim was true

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:47 am

Oh shoot lol i thought we had more time

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:47 am

I think that this is going to no-lim by default ugh

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:47 am

I kinda dropped the ball here, sorry. I thought the deadline was sunday for some reason

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:49 am

I really, really think it's alianna
If people want to call her town b/c of the jk-claim i think i'm at the point where i'm willing to accept the loss and then discuss it with ali after the game in post

Normally the correct thing to do is just clear the person the jk said they're clearing ...

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:57 am

Ok eiralox's trajectory is, like, Not Great, but there's a lot of little things in the iso that just feel unlikely to come from scum to me

I think i'm ok just calling him town

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:59 am

In post 1289, skitter30 wrote: I really, really think it's alianna
If people want to call her town b/c of the jk-claim i think i'm at the point where i'm willing to accept the loss and then discuss it with ali after the game in post

Normally the correct thing to do is just clear the person the jk said they're clearing ...

I don't know if i can proactively vote dragon here tbh. I think i'm ok losing to this but i can't vote someone in elo i don't think is scum

I'd rather a no-flip and let you guys sort it out tomorrow

Alianna isnt happening in the next 54 minites of whatever

skitter30 · Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:33 am

my immediate reaction to this is not positive ...

skitter30 · Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:57 am

i don't know why i'm not dead ..

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:51 pm

In post 1303, Alianna wrote: At risk of WIFOM, I'd have killed Eiralox because they were just as willing to vote me and I feel like I'd have an easier time reasoning with you.

i've been scumreading u p hard this whole time tho

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:52 pm

In post 1304, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1300, skitter30 wrote: i don't know why i'm not dead ..
My immediate reaction is someone thought that if they killed you, they would be the automatic lim? Ummm give me a bit, I wanna think this through.

i'm worried that it's you/eiralox leaving me alive to misflip alianna for you

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:53 pm

ugh maybe it's dragon

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:46 am

In post 1317, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1315, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1304, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1300, skitter30 wrote: i don't know why i'm not dead ..
My immediate reaction is someone thought that if they killed you, they would be the automatic lim? Ummm give me a bit, I wanna think this through.
i'm worried that it's you/eiralox leaving me alive to misflip alianna for you
I do believe I might do that if I were scum, I mean it would make sense.
But it's also exactly why I suspected Eiralox, because they have the same motivationto do it.

Honestly though the more I think about it the more it feels like a WIFOM situation so I think it's best to try and get reads based on content rather than NK analysis.
And I'll ashamedly admit I haven't than that Eoralox ISO yet. I think I have a few minutes now so let me at least start.

i think nobody dying is a v key and important piece of information, i can't just ignore that

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:47 am

yeah i'm a little confused why dragon is going for eiralax here, like if he's scum who does he think the other two voters are

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:47 am

but also like ... i feel like i'm alive to mislim alianna >.>

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:12 pm

i'm getting kinda close to just going with the jk clear and voting dragon tbh

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:48 am

In post 1340, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1335, Alianna wrote: I do think there's some chance it's Eira, but like you said, it's those little things that look town. Fingers crossed.

VOTE: DragonEater70
Can you please tell me in what world does scum!me open the day by voting for Eiralox? Or no kills, for that matter? It doesn't take a genius to realize that Skitter's death would lead to your elimination.

Why would my death lead to her flip

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:50 am

I would think the opposite - i'm the only person pushing her so if i'm alive she's an option

skitter30 · Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:20 am

In post 1347, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1343, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1340, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1335, Alianna wrote: I do think there's some chance it's Eira, but like you said, it's those little things that look town. Fingers crossed.

VOTE: DragonEater70
Can you please tell me in what world does scum!me open the day by voting for Eiralox? Or no kills, for that matter? It doesn't take a genius to realize that Skitter's death would lead to your elimination.
Why would my death lead to her flip

In post 1344, skitter30 wrote: I would think the opposite - i'm the only person pushing her so if i'm alive she's an option

Okay what I meant was, from a scum!Dragon POV your death would lead to her flip. Eiralox voted her yesterday, scum!Dragon would simply say "huh, she killed the person pushing her to get more breathing room so she's scum" and voila.

I don't think that's obviously or necessarily the case?
If i'm alive don't i just continue going for alianna?

skitter30 · Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:21 am

Oh i guess i'm confed here
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

skitter30 · Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:22 am

In post 1357, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay fair enough. I don't want you to base your entire read around meta, the point was that you said you didn't TR my tone. The difference in tone that I see was that in 2125 I was "prickly" I guess, and in WDM I was trying very hard NOT to be prickly so I felt I came off as much more reserved than usual. Which I don't think I'm doing here but idk.

@Skitter: Why do you say it might be me after all?

The holdsteady's iso isnt as good as i remember
Maybe jk clear on alianna
Your logic for eiralox doesnt make sense to me

skitter30 · Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:23 am

1305 sounds like the no kill was an attempt to frame eiralax

skitter30 · Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:55 am

It's still not obvious to me why scum-you kills me, can you explain it again slowly?

skitter30 · Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:05 pm

@dragon so your argument is that if you were scum

You just kill me and vote alianna with eiralox tomorrow?

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:10 am

In post 973, Alianna wrote:
In post 967, Alisae wrote: I'm going to Jail Alianna I just have to clear this person at night when Smiley flips mafia.
What is she going to do, kill me?
*brandishes knife wildly*

In post 974, Alianna wrote: (that was a joke, please don't execute me lol)

In post 976, Alianna wrote: But yeah, jail me if Smiley flips red.

In post 978, Alianna wrote:
In post 975, Alisae wrote:
In post 973, Alianna wrote:
In post 967, Alisae wrote: I'm going to Jail Alianna I just have to clear this person at night when Smiley flips mafia.
What is she going to do, kill me?
*brandishes knife wildly*
i bet that knife is made out of rubber
*charges at Alisae with knife*

In post 979, Alianna wrote: THERE'S ONLY ROOM FOR ONE ALI IN THIS TOWN!

In post 982, Alianna wrote: I want post 1000 before anyone hammers.

Alianna what was motivating these posts? They still look like locatting to me

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:57 am

It did look a lot like doomed scum...

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:59 am

Like idk it's a weird response as town
Makes a lot of sense there as scum

Idk why town-you lolcats just there

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:21 am

In post 1380, Alianna wrote: It wasn't a town response, it was an Alianna response.

Yes but it's like super scummy >.>

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:27 am

Ok i don't think no-limming is an option here, i just die (which i'm still surprised i didnt last night)

My gut's screaming on play that it's alianna
But i just don't know if i can go against what is nominally a jk clear, esp. in a newbie game

So i think i'm going to vote dragon
And if it's alianna - this is why changing your target as jk in this instance is very bad

And if it's eiralax , well played

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:29 am

Especially as it came right after ali agreed to vote him, and right after i case you as a partner

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:42 am

VOTE: dragon

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:25 am

Ok really hope that was right
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:45 am

Good job dragon, you did pretty good repping in here (and theholdsteady did a great job seeming town and unaffiliated with overseer)

I really did think it was alianna basically till the end

Pedit i was super tunneled and was like half convinced i was wrong. I basically only voted that way b/c of the jk thing

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:54 am

Oh man i see i've kept the dead pt quite busy for a while >.>

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:22 pm

In post 1418, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1409, skitter30 wrote: Good job dragon, you did pretty good repping in here
Really? I felt like I did a shit job tbh.

I mean it was a tough spot
I think you did well with what you had

Why, uh, didnt you kill me last night?

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:22 pm

In post 1423, Alisae wrote: Skiiiiiitter x_x

I was v tunneled >.>

skitter30 · Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:25 pm

>.>
Sorry for doubting you

skitter30 · Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:28 am

I was under the impression that three rounds of chicken was a scum win