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Hey everyone, looking forward to this game
I'm just disproving the greeting the game tell don't mind me-
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You found the other gamestart tell that I am living disproof of.In post 8, ZZZX wrote:
No RVS vote?In post 7, furtiveglance wrote: Hey everyone, looking forward to this game
I'm just disproving the greeting the game tell don't mind me
VOTE: furtiveglance
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In that case, you're probably town based on how fun your idea isIn post 18, Psyche wrote:
ooh what a fun ideaIn post 7, furtiveglance wrote: disproving the greeting the game tell
ok everyone instead of voting randomly i will now commence a sitewide study to test the hypothesis that not voting in your first post is scummy (the best operationalization of the greeting tell i can do atm)
it'll be a lot of work but i can't think of a single reason to think it's not the best possible use of my free time
please stand by for a complete outline of the methodology
VOTE: furtiveglance though bc i did another study a while ago and confirmed that expressing fun ideas in mafia games is scummy-
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You wanted RN to explain that they were recruiting players and thank you for joining? Why is that, of all posts, town?In post 140, Shrek wrote:
this is what i wanted btwIn post 83, Random Nurse wrote:In post 12, Shrek wrote: VOTE: Random Nurse
didnt even THANK me when i signed up for this game when it really needed players what the hey hey is up with that
Listen—I was on a mission.
No time for pleasantries along the way.
But yeah thanks for coming. I was the first to /in and got tired of waiting for months and months.
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I do consider myself a person of good taste, part of the joke was that I knew someone would vote me for my post and it's funny it they (you) are wrong!In post 28, Psyche wrote: ok ok ok let's see if i can do this
I THINK this this post represents an attempt at displacing the question of whether furtive is scummy with the question of whether the greeting tell is a worthwhile tell or not.In post 7, furtiveglance wrote: Hey everyone, looking forward to this game
I'm just disproving the greeting the game tell don't mind me
The answer to the latter question is easily assumed to be "no", and in this context is easy to mistake as an answer to the question of whether furtive is scummy!
but these are distinct questions
furtive you wily rascal
hmm no that's not very good, even for page 2
i think i might really find furtive scummy because his post on page 1 is a muchbetterpost if he's scum -- it's ironic and thus more funny. objectively!
if we assume that furtive is a person with good taste (and i think we can though only time will tell), then he is correspondingly more likely to have posted it if he were scum than if he were town.
and being more likely to come from scum than from town is what it means for an action scummy!
yeah that's better. im really proud of myself
but alas even this revised justification for my vote is not very good!
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Ok, well I didn't pick up on that sarcasm, disproving yet another tell (nsg tell). I'm on fire this game!In post 144, Shrek wrote:
yeah i wonder how something not related to the game in the slightest could result in any read at all unless… i was joking??? no wayIn post 142, furtiveglance wrote:
You wanted RN to explain that they were recruiting players and thank you for joining? Why is that, of all posts, town?In post 140, Shrek wrote:
this is what i wanted btwIn post 83, Random Nurse wrote:In post 12, Shrek wrote: VOTE: Random Nurse
didnt even THANK me when i signed up for this game when it really needed players what the hey hey is up with that
Listen—I was on a mission.
No time for pleasantries along the way.
But yeah thanks for coming. I was the first to /in and got tired of waiting for months and months.
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In post 207, Merlyn wrote: I do think scum self vote. I don't think describing FL's style being 'coasting' to be accurate at all. He's not gonna keep only talking about one piece, he'll want to play bc he he likes to play. All this early panic seems unwarranted
Agree with both of these, but can I ask Merlyn what the 'panic' you speak of is? Is that people scumreading FL?In post 220, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Self-voting is hardly risky.In post 163, TemporalLich wrote: okay I'll have to post my logic for the flavor leaf townread:
premise one: self-voting is anti-town
premise B: Flavor Leaf self-voted early Day 1
premise triangle: scum would not want to make risky plays early Day 1
conclusion: Flavor Leaf town
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It's not the priority though, is it?In post 261, TemporalLich wrote: scum need to scumhunt in a multiball
Surely FL would be more motivated to scumhunt as town than as scum?
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Yeah Psyche was probably rightIn post 281, Merlyn wrote:
It was BBMolla's post that made me say it, but I mean more like I was getting the impression that folks felt it was urgent to sort FL either way, and I don't feel the same urgency. Pysche did say something to the effect that folks were just happy to have something other than RVS to talk about and if that's what's going on I get itIn post 227, furtiveglance wrote: Agree with both of these, but can I ask Merlyn what the 'panic' you speak of is? Is that people scumreading FL?-
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I'll be honest I kinda just ctrl+F'd my own name instead of reading up fullyIn post 512, JacksonVirgo wrote: Furtive. You pop in with some bangers but what's your current stance as a whole.
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OkIn post 524, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I'd rather not spoonfeed you, I'd prefer if you read on your ownIn post 519, furtiveglance wrote:
I'll be honest I kinda just ctrl+F'd my own name instead of reading up fullyIn post 512, JacksonVirgo wrote: Furtive. You pop in with some bangers but what's your current stance as a whole.
What's the raging debate now?-
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You think I'm so incredibly scummy that I have to be a Jester?In post 623, JacksonVirgo wrote: Jesters aren't normal-permitted yeah?-
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Who's the Jester thenIn post 631, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I wasn't referring to you, but you being so self aware is another point to add to the listIn post 630, furtiveglance wrote:
You think I'm so incredibly scummy that I have to be a Jester?In post 623, JacksonVirgo wrote: Jesters aren't normal-permitted yeah?-
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You were voting for me at the time...In post 635, JacksonVirgo wrote: Furtive responding like that to me talking about a jester is an awful look for them-
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Ok I'm slightly concerned by the momentum here. I can assure you I'd be a great lim today (for scum)
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Curse your eagerness! I was just gonna do some reads (not on these players though...)In post 648, Flavor Leaf wrote: Furtive, what are your reads on BBm, Psyche, and Hu Tao?
BBmolla - MS Royalty (I'll try not to fanboi too much, but one of the first forum games I read was Kill All Townies - the Werewolf win where a Mafia Goon claimed Doctor and it was chaos lol). I'm not sure how much I believe the claim or take it as a serious one per se, but I think I agree with the TRs here (and they're so unanimous that I feel ok trusting them)
Psyche's definitely been performative, but I quite enjoyed the stand-up-esque act at the start of the game, and saw it more as towny excitement to start the game than anything else. Who likes being scum that much?
Hu Tao hasn't done much yet, right? FL called them scummy on a meta read at one point. I can see the overwhelmed stuff being true, but also it's not really enough for me to townread them, so I'll say null.-
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Is this a slightly jokey 200? I'm hoping it's slightly jokey
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The game's long enough already...
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To be honest, I can't really. They're not very deep reads. If I had to pick one for scum it would be Hu Tao, but I don't really scumread them either.In post 661, TemporalLich wrote: can you explain those reads any more
I'll still keep my vote on you but I have a hard time believing those reads
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Which game?In post 666, Flavor Leaf wrote: I really do think we’re a town trio, JV/TL.
I’m somewhat liking Furtive, but if I remember correctly, when they were scum, I defended them a lot. I could not be remembering correctly.-
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Right, to give my own (probably unwanted) thoughts on a potential townblock, I'm happy with BBmolla, TL (serious but in a good way), JV (obvtown) and Psyche (charisma points). FL leaning town but probably least strong on, but they did suggest it so they can be in it, like the kid who brings the football.
I'm now gonna comment on two players I have seen posting/being talked about:
Shrek seems a bit sus to me. Their ideas seem quite involved, almost too in depth too early. Like the 225 comment about Psyche/Klazam pairing just seems a bit left field as well. Also the tone is hard to read, they seem sometimes amused/jokey sometimes serious.
Klazam's posts so far are probably in anyone's scumrange, and don't really seem town necessarily. But like with Hu Tao, could just be town as well.-
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You came into the thread with the same ideas I had, like I would think something and scroll down and you'd said it. Also, you're being that one town that drowns the thread because they're enjoying the game so muchIn post 707, JacksonVirgo wrote: You say I'm obvtown. Please expand on that I don't like the fact I've been town-read this easily and without proper reason. Feels like an easy read to throw out-
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Yeah I mean like all multiball, it's insanely swingy, and unless town have really good accuracy they'll get overrun soon into the game, but I still like itIn post 719, BBmolla wrote:
Kill All Townies is one of my less good setups I think, seems pretty scumsided, idk if adding the two townies fixed it.In post 656, furtiveglance wrote:
Curse your eagerness! I was just gonna do some reads (not on these players though...)In post 648, Flavor Leaf wrote: Furtive, what are your reads on BBm, Psyche, and Hu Tao?
BBmolla - MS Royalty (I'll try not to fanboi too much, but one of the first forum games I read was Kill All Townies - the Werewolf win where a Mafia Goon claimed Doctor and it was chaos lol). I'm not sure how much I believe the claim or take it as a serious one per se, but I think I agree with the TRs here (and they're so unanimous that I feel ok trusting them)-
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No, my read on you isn't paranoia, nor do I have much of an idea of your scumgame. To my mind now I think it's just Conception we played in together. My read is based on the self-vote to defuse the wagonIn post 721, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’ve really liked furtive a lot the past few pages.
Like I get the paranoia on my slot to only be able to lean town tentatively.
I’ve just gotten away with too much as scum it’s hard not to BOP me.
It’s annoying, but I get it. But I can rally a town like no other, put me in coach when it’s time, and I’ll score.-
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Are you claiming SK? Who puts a town 2s BP inIn post 727, Random Nurse wrote:In post 607, Flavor Leaf wrote: Bianco's just gonna cop me tonight anyways
She can Cop me instead.
Confirmed PLUS 2-Shot Bulletproof?
Yeah, let's do that.-
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I can also vote Bianco btw, early (P2 vote) posting was slightly strange in my eyes-
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Erm akshually noIn post 750, Flavor Leaf wrote: Furtive town reads me so hard-
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You stole my opener!In post 35, biancospino wrote: Hey everyone, just looking forward to this game.
Just disproving the greeting tell don't mind me
Taking Psyche too serious maybe? Or just acting confused when there wasn't much to be confused aboutIn post 36, biancospino wrote:
You can point at the post where he says he plans to give reasons on p2 to prove that the post on p2 with reasons is planned, yeahIn post 30, TemporalLich wrote: in fact I can point to 19 as proof that 28 is planned and not a thoughtstream, but still this is a less than worthless tone read right now
@Psyche, are you like, being this overly wordy as a joke or something? I think it is some absurdist jokeThis is just true
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They didn't tbf :shrug:In post 37, TemporalLich wrote: I have no idea why someone would claim motion detector in RVS
They claimed "some boring stuff like 2-sMD". There are plenty of boring stuff even if this isn't a throwaway joke
Voting me, unforgiveableIn post 50, biancospino wrote:
No can do, instead I'll chose completely at random.In post 47, Psyche wrote:
caffeine yo. hell of a drug. pls wagon furtive with me. for the absurdist joke.In post 36, biancospino wrote:
You can point at the post where he says he plans to give reasons on p2 to prove that the post on p2 with reasons is planned, yeahIn post 30, TemporalLich wrote: in fact I can point to 19 as proof that 28 is planned and not a thoughtstream, but still this is a less than worthless tone read right now
@Psyche, are you like, being this overly wordy as a joke or something? I think it is some absurdist joke
VOTE: Furtive
Uh, what a coincidence.
But srsly it's one of those jokey votes that scum sometimes make-
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I feel so uncool as blue mafia, I told everyone in the PT to call me Alpha WolfIn post 765, JacksonVirgo wrote: Also I have a hard-on for blue maf chat cuz it's the new colour for maf and I'm quirky like that-
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This list helps me, not because of the order of players, but because it introduces me to players I didn't realise were in the gameIn post 779, Flavor Leaf wrote:-
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What issues?In post 793, the worst wrote:
i choked on my drink, HARD sameIn post 791, furtiveglance wrote: This list helps me, not because of the order of players, but because it introduces me to players I didn't realise were in the game
i have like 70 issues with the fact i'm gonna temporarily blindly sheep this vote,
but, uh,
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Fine, still working on them. A lot of players I need to read more ofIn post 799, the worst wrote:
remind me to circle back to this in a few (irl) days i'm not really motivated to answer it right nowIn post 796, furtiveglance wrote:
What issues?In post 793, the worst wrote:
i choked on my drink, HARD sameIn post 791, furtiveglance wrote: This list helps me, not because of the order of players, but because it introduces me to players I didn't realise were in the game
i have like 70 issues with the fact i'm gonna temporarily blindly sheep this vote,
but, uh,
VOTE: bianco
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VOTE: biancoIn post 801, the worst wrote: fair enough. anything particularly noteworthy?
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Flavour Leaf started organising like a young Barack ObamaIn post 803, camelCasedSnivy wrote: 13 new pages what the hell happened-
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I'm happy to townread Klazam and 'townception' the worst for thisIn post 813, Klazam wrote:
Spoiler: Progression of worst on Temporal
I actually liked how worst was willing to question Temporal on their read on me even given earlier stance on how worst thought Temp was not the place to go today, instead of doubling down and ignoring Temp.-
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I'd like to keep pressure on bianco, at least for a bit. Besides, we have 8 days.In post 817, the worst wrote: i'm in skim mode too we're kind of stuck
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Opinions on that wily rascal furtiveglance? (talking about self in third person/self-awareness tells disproved)In post 816, Psyche wrote: Couldn't find anything especially useful in these last ten pages. How sad.-
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He just wants to see how funny my joke was. (It was funny)In post 832, Naerys wrote: I think ur pushing for furtive does not make much sense.-
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SmartIn post 845, shaddowez wrote:
If you ISO everyone but FL/TL/JV, it cuts out a lot. Then just ISO the three of them together.In post 844, Merlyn wrote: 22 pages overnight??? y'all are crazy I'm not reading any of that-
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This doesn't seem like a scumslip to me, just because FL has been theorising BBmolla as scum. So it seems like BBmolla is questioning/dismissing that. If FL had been townreading BBmolla, yes it would look like a slip.In post 847, BBmolla wrote: FL doesn’t think I’m scum lmfao-
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I see what you mean, but sometimes players do that when they're catching up. It could also be a reference to FL's 'furtive townreads me' jokeIn post 894, shaddowez wrote:
This is what has me questioning it. I think I said it too, but if FL wasn't SR BBmolla, it would be much clearer. However, there was nothing in the convo happening at the time to make that post make any sense in thread either. While it could be another day chat (Masons, eg), that post definitely seems like it was meant to be inserted into a conversation that wasn't happening here.In post 878, furtiveglance wrote:
This doesn't seem like a scumslip to me, just because FL has been theorising BBmolla as scum. So it seems like BBmolla is questioning/dismissing that. If FL had been townreading BBmolla, yes it would look like a slip.In post 847, BBmolla wrote: FL doesn’t think I’m scum lmfao-
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Why did you randomly discredit his readIn post 906, BBmolla wrote:
ill let you ponder on that until you figure it outIn post 904, shaddowez wrote: Right - so how does that explain your post?
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Shrek and iavhIn post 910, ZZZX wrote: Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in
I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)
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I like that iavh post, and I also think Shrek is sus. It seems that bianco is getting replaced, so in the interest of keeping the game dynamic...
VOTE: Shrek-
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Guide me, Alpha WolfIn post 1001, JacksonVirgo wrote: Why is Shrek ever a wagon here-
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It was partly a tonal read, based on their early posts.In post 1005, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Why do you believe Shrek is sus?In post 923, furtiveglance wrote: I like that iavh post, and I also think Shrek is sus. It seems that bianco is getting replaced, so in the interest of keeping the game dynamic...
VOTE: Shrek
I'm not married to the vote, just saw a chance at a bit of momentum. I'll happily be a double-voter for you if you want.-
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Two town could never vote together because???In post 1019, TemporalLich wrote: both flavor leaf and ZZZX are on the Shrek wagon so I highly doubt that flavor leaf and ZZZX is TvT-
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It do be a game thoIn post 1022, Flavor Leaf wrote:
This is rude af.In post 1012, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm infinitely disappointed in you. What makes Shrek scum? They're probably one of my stronger TRs as it stands
Dont fucking guilt trip me.
I have talked about my Shrek read before, and you clearly saw them towards the bottom of my last reads list, and you know that Furtive is one of my stronger town reads.
Like really? This was the time for you to say something like this to me right after I went through that with ZZZx and derp Lich derp voted?-
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I feel like I've disagreed with TL so much this game that the only explanation is that they're just a very eccentric old mage rather than scum being deliberately contrarian.-
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Just calm it down a bitIn post 1039, Flavor Leaf wrote: i have zero control in this game, and thats the biggest town Flavor tell in existence.
Scum Flavor games, I am control.-
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Is that for the 'slip'?In post 1094, TemporalLich wrote: here's my PoE as of current time: Flavor Leaf, BBmolla, Psyche, furtiveglance, Hu Tao, iamveryhappy
I'm confident that Flavor Leaf and BBmolla are scum, however.-
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23 players tho. Also, just agreeing to smoke the player hardest to read based on meta would be super unfun.In post 1125, BBmolla wrote: I think the amount of posts this game is anti-town.-
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I townread JVIn post 1135, JacksonVirgo wrote:
VOTE: HappyIn post 1122, iamveryhappy wrote:
me when two mafia championships finalists from my site team up and bulli meIn post 1113, Flavor Leaf wrote: People are so obsessed with me this game.
I don't think it's warranted.
Scum big threatened
Note: don't do scummy things and come back and ask "why are you so obsessed w/me uwu"
I think Jackson told me to follow up or smth so here you go
VOTE: FlavoUr Leaf
This is wolf. They keep shifting things. First they put the safety-hat on their posts to brace themselves for possible backlash, and now they're shifting the responsibility ontoME
VOTE: iamveryhappy-
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The first one. This post is fine in itself, but I already TRed you. Remember, you didn't like me TRing you and wanted me to explain it.In post 1150, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Is the reason for following because you TR me? Or, does this post make you TR me? Or?In post 1139, furtiveglance wrote:
I townread JVIn post 1135, JacksonVirgo wrote:
VOTE: HappyIn post 1122, iamveryhappy wrote:
me when two mafia championships finalists from my site team up and bulli meIn post 1113, Flavor Leaf wrote: People are so obsessed with me this game.
I don't think it's warranted.
Scum big threatened
Note: don't do scummy things and come back and ask "why are you so obsessed w/me uwu"
I think Jackson told me to follow up or smth so here you go
VOTE: FlavoUr Leaf
This is wolf. They keep shifting things. First they put the safety-hat on their posts to brace themselves for possible backlash, and now they're shifting the responsibility ontoME
VOTE: iamveryhappy
Anyway, massive game, I'd like to be in good company on a wagon (12 votes to eliminate) and iavh's post didn't strike me as town.-
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I don't even exist to you?In post 1207, JacksonVirgo wrote: I made a table, I like tables as tables are like spreadsheets and I like spreadsheets.
This is roughly where I am. I wanna put more focus on my null-tiers as it's pretty chonker at the moment.
That's my main issue as town is that I don't really broaden myself that much.
Position Players Town-readFL Town-leanShrek, dave, Klazam, TL, shadow Null-townDucky, Merlyn, Naerys NullPisskop, Hu Tao, Kitty, STD, Flavia, bob, ZZZ, bbmolla Null-scumScum-leanCamel, Random Nurse, Psyche Scum-readHappy -
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I got a kick out of itIn post 1222, pisskop wrote:
So what did you get out of the whole show then?In post 143, furtiveglance wrote: I knew someone would vote me for my post and it's funny it they (you) are wrong!-
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You actually seem really conflicted/changeable in your stancesIn post 1226, TemporalLich wrote: so yeah, if you're wondering why I am overconfident and arrogant when it comes to reads, it's to avoid waffling accusations-
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Here's some reads on lesser-talked about players:
Town
the worst
Merlyn
ZZZX
Null
Naerys
shaddowez
Scum
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