Micro 995: Secret Jesters

[Grace Hargreeves]

Ego

[Grace Hargreeves]

I'm not sure which account I am, or who my scumbuddy is.

VOTE: The Swedes

[Grace Hargreeves]

I'm.... Pretty sure that the jesters don't know who the other jesters are?

I'm going to assume this is a townslip for now.

[Grace Hargreeves]

triplets?

I'm going to assume this dumbtelling is fake and coming from Mafia for now.

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: Lila

Odd vote given the other things you've said. Why?

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: Sissy

Unless I missed something town just loses right?

The three jesters get killed next and mafia reach parity. Town can try to get killed to screw the jesters but it seems like mafia win is assured unless people decide not to kill sissy here.

Actually, I guess I could be killed if people want to keep the game going, that is another option

Ara, ara, what does this mean?

also, fuck, my reads are garbage

VOTE: Lila Pitts

This sort of tryharding with bad reads suggests trying to scumhunt and failing. Probably Mafia. The rest of this page is full of jesters.

VOTE: Raymond

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: Sissy

Unless I missed something town just loses right?

The three jesters get killed next and mafia reach parity. Town can try to get killed to screw the jesters but it seems like mafia win is assured unless people decide not to kill sissy here.

Don't buy this dumbtelling for a minute. The Mafia win condition is achieving parity "with the TOWN ALIGNED players." (post 1).

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: Sissy

Unless I missed something town just loses right?

The three jesters get killed next and mafia reach parity. Town can try to get killed to screw the jesters but it seems like mafia win is assured unless people decide not to kill sissy here.

Actually, I guess I could be killed if people want to keep the game going, that is another option

Ara, ara, what does this mean?

also, fuck, my reads are garbage

VOTE: Lila Pitts

This sort of tryharding with bad reads suggests trying to scumhunt and failing. Probably Mafia. The rest of this page is full of jesters.

VOTE: Raymond

tryharding=scum?
Do you realise that if nobody tries to make sense out of this game, we're left with a bunch of people playing whack-a-mole? lmao

I mean, I /inned for the fun and chaos implied from the setup, but asking nobody to actually try at all destroys any and all fun element bc there's no trolling anyone if nobody is taken seriously

If you'll take the time to thoroughly read that post (I know it was long, so that might be asking a lot), you'll see that I said that you were tryharding yet had BAD reads. I think other people who are trying less are playing better. Hence I think you are trying to look like you are solving and struggling. Hence Mafia, since a Jester wouldn't bother trying to look like solving.

I guess maybe there's an argument for a jester trying to look like Mafia by intentionally making bad reads and tryharding. But Occam says bah!

[Grace Hargreeves]

Grace you have pointed out that mafia win when the next town gets killed so is this not the time to be tryharding?

Ok, let me say this a third time.

It is NAI to tryhard.
It is NAI to have bad reads.

It is not a good look to both try hard and then have really bad takes.

[Grace Hargreeves]

Let me break it down a little bit further. Jesters have no real incentive to try or look like they're trying. If anything they want to look like Mafia.
Town wants to either blend in with the Jesters and not try or try and sort people.
Mafia wants to look like Town, but they aren't so they struggle.

You can throw in layers of WIFOM if you want, and say really Jesters want to look like Mafia who want to look like Town, so jesters want to look like Town. At the end of the day, the above still holds though. The only reason a Jester would want to look like Town is so they get scumread.

Speaking of: Jesters now have to townside.

[Grace Hargreeves]

Just one more vote then cha cha hammers this

Bloodthirsty, are we? Your vote means there are two votes on me. Hardly a serious wagon. You're really doubling down on the chainsaw defense here aren't you?

[Grace Hargreeves]

I’m feeling extremely optimistic about this game.

I am not so optimistic. I townread both you and Grace and as a VT only one of you can be town.

If this is in fact true, I’d say any wagon other than you, Grace, me and Sissy, means scum would lose. So scum either has to elim a jester or bus.

Oooh shiny logic. I like.

Unless the team is you + Grace I am 100% down for this.

We can wait a day or two to see that.

*crawls into Lila and Grace’s pocket*

Oooh it’s comfy!

The second line feels a bit self-aware, but you are certainly welcome to take up residence in my pocket. I have the heater running.

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: grace

I feel safer voting there, I think Lila could be jester pretending to be jester and I'm wary of voting there, but I guess I can see where raymond is coming from

I think that this is Jester while Swedes is Mafia chainsawing for Raymond.

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: grace

I feel safer voting there, I think Lila could be jester pretending to be jester and I'm wary of voting there, but I guess I can see where raymond is coming from

I think that this is Jester while Swedes is Mafia chainsawing for Raymond.

what chainsaw could possibly be in place, elimination is 5 votes. 2 votes is sleepy time, not even close to "oh shit we gotta do something" lol

I think this post proves you aren't a jester.

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: grace

I feel safer voting there, I think Lila could be jester pretending to be jester and I'm wary of voting there, but I guess I can see where raymond is coming from

I think that this is Jester while Swedes is Mafia chainsawing for Raymond.

what chainsaw could possibly be in place, elimination is 5 votes. 2 votes is sleepy time, not even close to "oh shit we gotta do something" lol

I think this post proves you aren't a jester.

obviously, because I'm town

but why does saying "2 is closer to 0 than to 5" imply anything at all

you sure enjoy making random statements

Well you said "we" which is a bit of a slip and Certainly proves you aren't a Jester but it implies that you are most likely Mafia.

[Grace Hargreeves]

It was *reality*. You still have two votes on you. But go on, keep arguing that my reason for thinking you aren't a jester is wrong. It isn't going to change my desire to kill you. Actually your pushback suggests you genuinely don't want to die, so again, not Jester, hence Mafia.

[Grace Hargreeves]

Oh wait derp.

If I die or the other VT dies we just lose.

VOTE: Unvote

Damn now I gotta try

I mean if we hit scum we buy a mislim.

[Grace Hargreeves]

At the same time I feel like I could easily switch you and swedes around.
I don't like graces lack of engagement, I don't like graces telling of information but actual lack of hunting of any kind, and everything she is doing is entirely surface level.

I also feel like she feels the need to effort enough so that she doesn't get limmed here so she throws manipulative words that are designed to make people back down rather than want to fight her further which also supports her as not jester in this case

1v1 me, bro. How are you gonna call out my lack of engagement when you're reading Micro 995: Secret Jesters?

[Grace Hargreeves]

I am Town.

[Grace Hargreeves]

Handler is Town and Rofa is Mafia.

[Grace Hargreeves]

I am Town.

Unless you think I'm claiming IC.

[Grace Hargreeves]

I said earlier that swedes is likely not jester, for playing in a way that didn't seem like they wanted to be lynched.

Swedes *looks* like a jester there which I think scum would most likely do this game

Well at least one Mafia has to try and look Town here to avoid the Jesters claiming Jester/Mafia and confirming the Town.

[Grace Hargreeves]

I'm concerned about how easily people are willing to let Jesters win. If we give a free win to a Jester and then mislim a Jester, then suddenly we are down to one Jester. If we hit Mafia today then tomorrow we can safely kill a Jester or two and then hunt in the VT claims. In any case we aren't shooting in the VT claims today, so we should probably focus our efforts on finding the scum among the Jester claims.

[Grace Hargreeves]

I think lim order should be

Lila, Raymond, swedes.

If the game is over, then Handler

Aren't they all claimed Jesters?

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: Sissy

Unless I missed something town just loses right?

The three jesters get killed next and mafia reach parity. Town can try to get killed to screw the jesters but it seems like mafia win is assured unless people decide not to kill sissy here.

Actually, I guess I could be killed if people want to keep the game going, that is another option

This post means Swedes cannot be Town.

[Grace Hargreeves]

I'm concerned about how easily people are willing to let Jesters win.

If we give a free win to a Jester and then mislim a Jester, then suddenly we are down to one Jester.

If we hit Mafia today then tomorrow we can safely kill a Jester or two and then hunt in the VT claims. In any case we aren't shooting in the VT claims today, so we should probably focus our efforts on finding the scum among the Jester claims.

Grace 100% mafia, tell me how this isn't too informed. They know that you are going to hit jester tomorrow, and Lila hard defended them and gets rewarded by getting win.

Scum team of Grace and Raymond I'll take my payment in full

Yeah being able to count to 3 makes me informed. Yep. Guilty.

[Grace Hargreeves]

Yesterday we talked about killing in me and cha cha

Grace stated how you are giving a free win to a jester(lila) and then going to miselim a jester(me or cha cha), they are too informed

VOTE: Raymond

I didn't say we should go in the Jesters again after killing a Jester though. That's you putting words in my mouth. I said yesterday we should lim in the Jesters. Not sure what to do now mechanically.

[Grace Hargreeves]

I think we are better off limming in the Town claims today, and then hitting the other Jester tomorrow. The more we go for Jesters the more Mafia is able to manipulate what the voter registry looks like.

[Grace Hargreeves]

If Town Hazel would likely have been elimed by now. Twice Hazel was at E-1. Even now scum could quickhammer.

[Grace Hargreeves]

EBWOP: If Town, Hazel

[Grace Hargreeves]

If Town, Hazel would likely have been elimed by now. Twice Hazel was at E-1. Even now scum could quickhammer.

I just forgot a comma.

[Grace Hargreeves]

Pretty sure people are voting me last I checked, not Hazel? Did I miss something while I was doing Handler things?

Nope it's just been a long day.

[Grace Hargreeves]

We all seem to be assuming there's 1 scum in the VT claims and one in the Jesters. What if its actually two scum in the Jester claims and a Jester claimed Town?

I think it's not likely, since I don't read either of the Town claims as Jesters.

[Grace Hargreeves]

VOTE: Raymond

[Grace Hargreeves]

We all seem to be assuming there's 1 scum in the VT claims and one in the Jesters. What if its actually two scum in the Jester claims and a Jester claimed Town?

I think it's not likely, since I don't read either of the Town claims as Jesters.

Before I forget >> Grace is likely scum if Hazel isn’t. If Grace was town Grace would say “either of the OTHER town claims”. This post implies two town claims when there would be three. It’s not enough to make me question Hazel over Grace but it’s weird.

One confirmed Town, two claimed Town.

[Grace Hargreeves]

Wow OK, nevermind. Kinda upset about the quickhammer on Swedes there... I think the massclaim was a really bad idea for Town, and I think we messed up by not both claiming Town. We made it so that Town had reason to elim in the Jester claims, which we didn't want. I think we played pretty well though.

Good Game, oh well.

[Grace Hargreeves]

Blanked.