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Oh
Hello!

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It’s funny because of some bizarre twist of fate, I thought this would happen?
This ability targets random people btw.

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Irchirin flipped town. I thought it flipped wolf when I first woke up cuz red text but then it took me 3 seconds to remind myself that GiF is a sadistic bastard and red = town.
I would rather trust you than not trust you, the latter is simply just unfun for both of us and unnecessary.
Want to share claims?

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Otherwise idunno, just wanna hang out?
We’re stuck with each other until end of next day.
When it comes to the mafia game I’m just completely lost and I still think on a play level sanae is a wolf.
I noticed there were like 10 pages since I last went bedge and woke up, i haven’t rly looked at them

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my spellcards are a 1-shot cop and a 1-shot kingmaker
my main active is a non-consec commuter.
and then ofc my passive is well, this hood

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I don't even need a kingmaker and my role would still be very strong.

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I had my kingmaker set to proc 10mins before day deadline in the event of an emergency

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Action-Investigation?
Immune?
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why would you ever wanna make a PT public tho?

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Man, GiF designs some weird heckin roles

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ig it makes sense tho.
I have to randomly neighborize someone, so at random I just make it so you get false positives.

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in a way, it's even more lucky that I randed you as target haha

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Action-Investigation?
Immune?
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I know. It fucking sucks. I would really like to be able to become a cop inno, but do not cop me i'm 90% sure I'm immune lol.

Action =/ Role investigation.
I'm not going to cop you but if I thought you were a wolf and we got a wolf flip, I would 100% be threatening it!

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I think the line of play that just makes the most sense for me is to commute.
Wolves have to have a strongman, right? I imagine Commuting beats that line of play.

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I don't see how wolves don't throw a strongman at me if Koishi is town?

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Who should I PT check?

idunno
we discuss reads to find out?

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I am completely lost when it comes to the game right now and Sanae isn't a good PT check

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I only know Koishi is an insanely good scum player. I trust them but they are wildly powerful.

I TR both Koishis

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seems like a waste of a check

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Honestly, what do you wanna do?

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Also do you have a take on Eternity Larva? I felt like towards EoD it did not matter to them what went through

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I currently have no read on Kagerou but I want to say they're town?

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tbh I'm going to be quite terrible at actually finding wolves right now and it doesn't help that I feel like I've called everyone town at least once.

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What stands out to me about Sanae's claim is I feel like there are tiny details that could have been added that could be fakeclaim material but there's a bunch of abilities they have that just make sense for wolf abilities
They had time to prepare that

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What do you think of Kaguya's End of Day?

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btw, feel free to just AFK in gamethread for all intents and purposes.
I am going to make my Kingmaker automatically trigger in the event you get 6 votes.
Protecting you and having wolves come into you is the strongest way I think to actually just use this ability. I don't think there's any other situation I would want to use it for and I shouldn't need it to push through guilties.

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Players would probably be unhappy with that line but, that's kind of the point. I like to find wolves by presenting them with bait and tbh that's the real power of masonries.
You're never going to get shot until it's too late and for all everyone else is concerned, you're checked out.

You shouldn't ever need to out results, if you need to communicate to me in gamethread day 3 and onward (or day 2 in an emergency), I imagine you can come up with some kind of way to communicate to me what I need to know without actually saying anything.

pedit: It doesn't just kingmake and it's actually quite a pro-town kingmake.
- Any votes that are on me are reset
- Day proceeds as normal
- I get to change the elimination even if deadline ran out and there was no elimination (this is why I had my ability set to proc 10mins before deadline)

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oh ya I'm also vote immune when I use it.
I forgot that detail
oops

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BTW the only other person I trust in this game and would hand the keys to the kingdom if they were a wolf as much as you would probably end up being Marisa

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Here are 3 different readlist that say teh same thing but accurately portray what I'm feeling

Spoiler: Top down list

Aya
Marisa
Koishi
Reisen
Tenshi
Yuuka
Kaguya
Kagerou
Daiyousei
Larva
Sanae

Spoiler: simple bracket

{Aya, Marisa, Koishi, Reisen, Tenshi}
{Kaguya, Kagerou, Daiyousei, Yuuka}
{Larva}
{Sanae}

Spoiler: detailed bracket

{Aya, Marisa}
{Koishi, Reisen, Tenshi}
{Yuuka, Kaguya}
{Kagerou}
{Daiyousei}
{Larva}
{Sanae}

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Broken tags fixed

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heck

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WHY DOES SHE DIE

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btw how many wolves do you think are on elim?

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Idunno why Yukari locked it, this stays open.
You got a result or did you target Larva who is dead now?

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Isn't this all explained if Tenshi used her spellcard to stop all actives

I can't commute tonight

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idunno if I would be able to commute if the ability was stopped

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ok ya commute still goes off

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I commuted

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Wait am I allowed to use active AND spellcards during night?
I didn't check

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woops

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sorry im stupid

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i do it tonight

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honestly I thought I couldn't use spellcard + active because being able to commute + cop + have someone claim my result, all in n1, seems too good to be true

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I’m always copping tonight, but why kingmake?

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I do agree that I do have to use it, as there's no reason not to?

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but like
when I saw this ability I was like "I should never be in a position where I have to use this. I should never even HAVE to claim it. I understand the purpose of this tool but I don't need to use this tool for that purpose."

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it's such a win more ability...

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The only good use I can think of for it is to prevent disaster.
There's no real disaster needed to prevent tho?

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idunno I don't like it but I don't really care enough to say no?
This game is in auto basically, ya?

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Ya I think this game is in auto I'll slam it

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Ya I think we're in auto and I don't think I really care about how we do get there?
I think this is always a win so I'll cast it.

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tbh I don't care if you trust me or not

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I just wanna kill bad guys

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I trust you that's all that really matters to me

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I'm not a wolf but if I started the game with an ability like this, I have no reason not to use it immediately and let it fade into obscurity.
That is 100% the best way to use an ability like this as a wolf.

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Anyway ya sure idc, name someone and they die.
Make sure you do it before elimination

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tbh I'm completely aware you just don't trust anyone but yourself which is why when I claimed I even claimed my kingmaker. I don't need to claim that. I don't even need to use it. I could just pretend something like that just doesn't exist.

Trust has to be something that's earned and I thought claiming an ability I had 0 plans on ever using, knowing how busted it is, was a good idea.

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I even claimed my commuter restrictions so you could abuse that if you wanted to if you were a wolf. That's not something I should be claiming willy-nilly

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This hood would look very different if I didn't trust you.

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I mean you care more than I do.

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Well I'm glad you're having fun

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That's all I could really ask for tbh

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Kaguya just flips wolf here, no?

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Probably? Feels kind of positioned like it. I still think one of Yuuka and Sanae is scum but...

so 1 wolf in Yuuka Sanae and kill Kaguya?

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I'll cop Yuuka tonight
I honestly think its Yuuka + Kaguya

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OK
I DID THE THING

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I certainly have no plans on telling the thread anything btw

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you can tho idc

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anyway you now have the responsibility of LISTING NAMES!!!

I listed a name and you killed a wolf, and now you must list a wolf name for me to kill.
I think this is an acceptable trade

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The easy answer is if it’s kaguya + sanae, that Sanae wont use her blocking/tracking abilities upon kaguya wolf flip

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If ur not using those abilities when there is 1 wolf left, you literally cannot be a town motivated player

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If Tenshi delayed your action
and Kagerou blocked you
what happened to Yuuka?

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I'm 98% convinced that's what happened btw.

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Idunno if this is up to date or not

Aya redirects actions targeting Koishi to Larva
Aya PT cops Someone gets No Result
Tenshi targets Aya with the Sword of Hisou
Mafia shoots Koishi (redirected to larva)
Kagerou shoots Tenshi
Kagerou blocks Aya
Yuuka action failed
Sanae is unable to act (or just doesn't as mafia, either way)
Koishi targets the person as noted in the chart from the prior day.
Clown Commutes
Larva gives a peach (rolecops) to Marisa.

Daiyousei ???
Kaguya ???
Marisa ???
Reisen ???

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Ya who blocked Yuuka???

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That's very weird, hmmm.

What's wild for me is.... with Larvae being cool with either one yesterday being the logic behind murdering them, is Sanae really actually scum here?

I think Yuuka's action failing should be indicative of Yuuka town, no?

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There are a lot of people in thread that strongly believe Sanae is aligned w/ Larva.

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If they're lying then Sanae was also stopped by someone but we don't know what.

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we have 1 liar in {Sanae, Yuuka}
this changes nothing

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tbh I think Larva being indifferent and saying that they're voting "for wagon data" and all of that blah blah blah to me stood out as lamist posting in that particular gamestate.
I also like Yuuka's posting this phase more than Sanae's

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it's either one liar in them or someone has a rb they aren't claiming

Sanae did claim an RB btw

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When I saw Sanae's claim my first impression was to call it a wolf JOAT

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Really if Kaguya somehow flips town then we have a mafia game on the table otherwise game ends

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The easy answer is if it’s kaguya + sanae, that Sanae wont use her blocking/tracking abilities upon kaguya wolf flip

If ur not using those abilities when there is 1 wolf left, you literally cannot be a town motivated player

This is where my head is at tbh
I want to say killing Kaguya is like, optimal?

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I forgot, one of her abilities let’s her yeet out of the game, ya?

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For like a day she like, kidnaps someone?

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Honestly what out does she even have?

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I can’t think of a single ability that would turn this losing position into a winning one

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Aya, now's the time to catch me if you're gonna get wings a-flappin.

Flap flap flap flap flap

Okay, so! Let's have a chat. You know how I have a neighbourhood with Clownpiece right? They're guaranteed to live through tonight, given they're untargettable from commute. I've left them something in our neighbourhood, from my role. It should... clear or implicate someone tomorrow, but I'll need today to figure it out. If Clownpiece fails to provide it, do not consider them clear, though I still think they're probably just town today.

As for today, for the sake of being able to actually USE that info I have... I need to kill within a pairing. Kaguya or Sanae. I have reads elsewhere about other people but those are the on the table players for today.

Wanna walk through Sanae town v scum with me?

hi im stupid what is this again

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So I'm killing Sanae?
Why not just use my ability to kill the person Koishi has protection on? They might be able to rebind?

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I really can't help but think making Kaguya the elim is just the most optimal play.
It flips wolf.
Sanae should use track/block cards.
If she doesn't, she dies.
If she does, well then there is a chance that she might just flip town

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oh another question
do trivial matters such as "wagon formation" and "wagon composition" matter for this day phase?
I think not?

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Like, we lim the person I was bodyguarding today? Then that's it, I played my role out. Kiss it goodbye. The one rebind has nuttin, because the conditions for it weren't triggered. I don't think gif anticipated a world where this scenario occurs, I guess?

I...Don't care about this?
I mean, that kind of sucks, but Koishi probably doesn't get the chance to rebind anyway?

I think mapping out if Koishi's role comes up or not might help us decide?
Rebinding sounds very slow and I think we can probably end game before it comes up?

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Ok seems like our business is done here.

Anything else you need to tell me.
Like this?

That's true. It's just that... I have a secondary thing I want to be able to claim to someone and I need to know without a single doubt that person is town.

Or, anything, really?

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this hood closes on day end

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tbh I honestly don't care if you have anything to say or not, just anything that needs to be said should be said before day end.
Our business is done tbh so...

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oh who am I copping tonight btw

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Well
Deadline is coming up.
I have no reason to put my vote into play on an actual wagon

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I change elim from No Elimination to Sanae

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oh who am I copping tonight btw

Cop Marisa.

No

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Marisa is basically conftown to me

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How do you want me to cop an ascetic

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ok jeez

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I'll just use my cop ability on someone

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you're good

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you know what
now that I Think about it
I actually like the idea of copping kaguya because then koishi doesn't have to rebind

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also Aya, Larva used their active on Marisa and no one CC the claim.

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If you want me to cop Kaguya, tell Koishi to keep bind on Kaguya

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say that you'll handle it