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Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:38 pm

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hello KayJayQueue

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Post Post #4 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:47 pm

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the aether is less intimidating than the moon, or so I've heard
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Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:30 am

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alright, would want to know who your strongest townread is

mine is Firebringer
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Post Post #8 (isolation #3) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:11 am

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Firebringer's consistency is a major reason for my townread on Firebringer

Doctor Drew is currently my strongest scumread for saying I scumread Firebringer which caused Firebringer to distrust me
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Post Post #9 (isolation #4) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:11 am

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firebringer is also townreadable because Firebringer is pursuing the truth
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Post Post #11 (isolation #5) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:13 am

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skygazer is voting me because I'm not voting Doctor Drew (I'm not voting Doctor Drew because casting the hammer vote on scum benefits my role)
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Post Post #12 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:18 am

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ebwop: skygazer is voting me because I have unvoted

I don't have any strong scumreads other than Doctor Drew right now, but if I had to vote someone other than Doctor Drew I'd vote Ranger
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Post Post #14 (isolation #7) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:30 am

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In post 13, KayJayQueue wrote: Ranger is nonexistent so she’s null for me. I dunno. Shes said exactly nothing to me.
same but I heard Ranger was the only person Firebringer didn't try to recruit

still have a nullread on Ranger though
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Post Post #16 (isolation #8) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:03 pm

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that is unfortunate

So far, Firebringer and JacksonVirgo seem very towny
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Post Post #18 (isolation #9) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:05 pm

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I mainly don't think JacksonVirgo and Doctor Drew are co-aligned this game
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Post Post #20 (isolation #10) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:08 pm

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regardless, if I I think a player is more likely to be town than average, that's a townread
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Post Post #22 (isolation #11) » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:48 pm

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In post 21, KayJayQueue wrote: Hmm. I’ve been getting people telling me you’re sus but not why. I guess it’s a mystery.
that is very strange, people are townreading me as far as I know
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Post Post #24 (isolation #12) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:38 pm

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I feel Ranger or Skygazer is a good lim today
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Post Post #25 (isolation #13) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:44 pm

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the moon is now infinitely far out of reach...
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Post Post #27 (isolation #14) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:51 pm

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I have been dezonated from going to space
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Post Post #29 (isolation #15) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:57 pm

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anyway, my role has been dezonated and now my ability is that investigations on me will fail

pedit: that level of trust from Firebringer is a strong indication that you are town even without Firebringer flipping town
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Post Post #31 (isolation #16) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:01 pm

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I have a mediumclaim from JacksonVirgo
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Post Post #34 (isolation #17) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:03 pm

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so everyone's role but yours was dezonated?
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Post Post #36 (isolation #18) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:12 pm

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In post 32, KayJayQueue wrote: Firebringer said his solve was within Ranger/Sky/Jake btw not sure if he told you.
can confirm, oddly enough that is my current PoE as well
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Post Post #38 (isolation #19) » Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:18 pm

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I have no rest lid from Ranger yet
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Post Post #41 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:41 am

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okay Ranger is definitely scum
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Post Post #43 (isolation #21) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:09 am

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if I am thinking what you're thinking, that result may come from a role capable of checking how a role would fit into BooneyToonz

variant would be a role that isn't in the role book or boon bank, but isn't ContraBoon'd or bastard
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Post Post #44 (isolation #22) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:11 am

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both of the roles I had would be considered Variant (but my current role would require that investigative role to be Strengthened to actually get that result)
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Post Post #46 (isolation #23) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:27 pm

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so do you think we should no lim today so Jake can advance his win condition?
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Post Post #47 (isolation #24) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:28 pm

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that was really the only reason I'd want to vote no lim ftr, I am 90% sure jake is orthogonal to town
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Post Post #49 (isolation #25) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:55 pm

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jake likely isn't town but isn't scum - a benign third party

if my no lim helps jake win then there is a small risk for losing the lim but a big gain in sportsmanship
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Post Post #51 (isolation #26) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:01 pm

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In post 50, KayJayQueue wrote: Wouldn’t Jake winning mean town loses? I don’t understand
You are thinking Jake is a scum third party (if so, it would actually make Jake the ideal lim for today), not a benign third party

A benign third party is like a Jester or Survivor, benign third parties are capable of winning while the Town wins
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Post Post #53 (isolation #27) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:24 am

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do you know why people are sudddenly voting JacksonVirgo?
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Post Post #55 (isolation #28) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:16 am

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okay so the wagon is maybe scum motivated

but really I was hoping to know the reasoning
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Post Post #57 (isolation #29) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:21 am

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so Jake really is a benign third party then
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Post Post #58 (isolation #30) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:22 am

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that being said, I'd rather no lim than lim JV

I need really good reasons to lim JV, such as a red check
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Post Post #60 (isolation #31) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:39 am

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In post 59, KayJayQueue wrote: I’m not voting you or JV at all
you're currently not voting, so yeah

I don't want to vote JV and don't feel like trying to look for deepwolves right now, I'd want to vote one of {Ranger, Skygazer, No Exile} today
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Post Post #63 (isolation #32) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:43 am

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I've also heard Jake apparently has the same role he had during Cycle 1
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Post Post #65 (isolation #33) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:49 am

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I hear Jake is neither good nor bad - Jake is a benign third party who wants to nightkill scum (Jake being a benign third party is the only reason No Exile is in my current lim pool)
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Post Post #68 (isolation #34) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 pm

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my current lim pool is {Ranger, Skygazer, No Exile}

don't really want to lim a claimed benign 3p with claimed incentive to scumhunt
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Post Post #70 (isolation #35) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:27 pm

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In post 35, KayJayQueue wrote: Yes but now my role is done. That was it- a one shot thing. I chose night 1 because I had no way of knowing if I would live long enough to use it and I wanted to have fun.

Roles changed (were shuffled) but alignments did not change.
also this would mean Jake would be a benign 3p regardless of whether Jake's role changed or not
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Post Post #71 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:27 pm

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In post 69, KayJayQueue wrote: I don’t think he’s benign
in that case we should speedlim Ranger
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Post Post #73 (isolation #37) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:30 pm

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we're probably in a hard deadlock (because no exile requires 4 votes which is unusual) then
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Post Post #74 (isolation #38) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:31 pm

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the only member of my limpool that Jake would vote is No Exile (Jake is the one who suggested No Exile, No Exile would not be in limpool if it wouldn't be helpful for Jake's win condition)
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Post Post #76 (isolation #39) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:35 pm

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if Ranger isn't groupscum then Skygazer is
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Post Post #78 (isolation #40) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:43 pm

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In post 77, KayJayQueue wrote: Ranger lying makes no sense though
wait I thought you wanted to lim Ranger for lying about her role being unchanged?

this would tell me you think Ranger is telling the truth about her role being unchanged
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Post Post #81 (isolation #41) » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:37 pm

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I'd strongly recommend voting out Ranger today then
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Post Post #82 (isolation #42) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:00 pm

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In post 43, TemporalLich wrote: if I am thinking what you're thinking, that result may come from a role capable of checking how a role would fit into BooneyToonz

variant would be a role that isn't in the role book or boon bank, but isn't ContraBoon'd or bastard
ranger had flipped the version of that role that DOES care about alignment

meaning JV is probably town but I'd imagine you'd be able to have aliens in a BooneyToonz game nowadays as there was a vote for town BooneyToonz game
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Post Post #83 (isolation #43) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:02 pm

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if skygazer against all odds flips town and the game is somehow not over I will suspect you as the deepwolf
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Post Post #85 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:07 pm

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I will speedlim Jake if Skygazer survives this night
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Post Post #87 (isolation #45) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:14 pm

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my role is arguably negative utility so w/e
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Post Post #88 (isolation #46) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:14 pm

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if I don't survive the night, hopefully someone knows that Skygazer surviving N2 means Jake lied about the bonus win condition
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Post Post #90 (isolation #47) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:23 pm

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JV is pretty much mech town

I don't think Town has much of a chance here but if the game doesn't end this night then we will need to exile Jake
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Post Post #92 (isolation #48) » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:50 pm

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same

still means I'm wanting to vote Jake today regardless though
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Post Post #94 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:25 am

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alright Jake is at E-1 now
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