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Post #100 (isolation #1) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:19 pm
Postby Prism »
Selected samples of my dead thread posting
Spoiler:
In post 12, Prism wrote:
I don't mind getting egg on my face. The Kyoko vote is an absolute disgrace.
In post 13, Prism wrote:
Second dumbest shit I've seen after the Hu Tao vote.
Probably should put Dan back on the table unfortunately, but not eager to do so.
In post 15, Prism wrote:
It's going to be one of those games I guess. Just vote the single strongest townread every day.
In post 16, Prism wrote:
Not leashing the third invention is a mechanical crime against the game. I feel like I watched the town run over my pet dog Day 1, then circled around for another pass Day 2.
Alright I'll stop complaining now but J E S U S
In post 17, Prism wrote:
I will sort through this later but I'm getting trolled so hard it's unreal.
Between the two I vote Ravens. There is
SURELY
just no world in which Dunnstral doesn't understand CCing dreamer is on the table and the natural response to doing so.
On the other hand Alisae has hard trolled and borderline played against win condition the entire game.
Ydrasse needs to claim. Enchant needs to fullclaim. We have room for one more PR.
In post 18, Prism wrote:
Ravens is claiming they intentionally tried to pass over the watcher shot, only to have the dream hijacked. This is such an absurd thing to lie about, a monumentally stupid mechanical decision, and in my opinion implausible given we've seen two scum dream-selection mechanics.
My mind is gone. It is lost and I am off to another dimension.
In post 20, Prism wrote:
I think Ravens claiming the reporter gift to Catgirl first is +town actually because it risks a double cc. Catgirl should point out if they softed the reporter gift to Silver anywhere.
In post 22, Prism wrote:
This is my nightmare CC. Truly a horror show.
In post 2715, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:
So do you believe this one random inconsistency to be true, when the idea of a hijack is odd in and of itself
when a dead mafia has the power to become the dreamer?
(Truthfully I don't know how that part works so they could have some sort of dream manipulation but it'd certainly be one shot and I always figured it wouldn't come into play until after we died)
I don't believe the bolded part here is public knowledge the town has access to. I'm pretty sure Catgirl Chipotle is confusing abilities they have posted in their mafia pt as public knowledge.
I am convinced someone kidnapped Dunnstral and replaced him with a bad AI imitation back in 2022.
In post 25, Prism wrote:
I literally don't understand. I can't begin to understand. Ravens is a hydra of two mechanically adept players. They categorically and systematically fail to understand their own power and its implications for three gamedays. They claim to have intentionally picked against a watcher shot. They also claim there is a second hijacking power/third scum dream selection mechanic.
I don't understand how that can possibly be town, but I don't understand how they can possibly post these things as scum without realizing they are instantly sunk.
Alisae points to a soft that isn't a soft and has been actively playing against wincon the entire game. Ravens also did claim their target first, which risks a double cc if the dreamer isn't Catgirls. Granted there are only three townies, but still.
I can't get my head around this.
In post 26, Prism wrote:
Don't even get me started on the second reporter shot.
In post 27, Prism wrote:
Reluctantly I think Catgirl is town but I don't like either of these worlds holy guacamole
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Post #102 (isolation #3) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:45 pm
Postby Prism »
Ravens being town requires literally 4 dream hijack mechanics. There's just no way, and I don't understand how they thought it was a good idea to fakeclaim it.
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Post #107 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:11 pm
Postby Prism »
I had extra info in that I actually knew I got the invention but that was physically painful to watch, I thought Enchant gift was enough+town could have forced a target for the last invention.
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Post #115 (isolation #9) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:43 pm
Postby Prism »
I have no idea on the third. Von Payne was mostly my default, but I was surprised by the Ravens vote yesterday. I didn't have any of the context for it which made it hard to read into.
I still think Enchant is town. Von Payne+another PR is a fair amount of town power but not totally out there. My inclination is two scum PRs on top of Aureal's role is too much, so Von Payne town and probably Ydrasse?
By default has to be Sunflower, which makes some sense to me given I hated their night posting about me before the NK and felt slightly bad about most of their prior progression.
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Post #126 (isolation #13) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:54 pm
Postby Prism »
I still think it's very winnable. The one VT reveal doesn't do that much: the amount of scum power revealed by the hijack made two PRs super plausible. It made me flip my stance on Von Payne instantly. Ydrasse could hypothetically be a good that will fakeclaim, but we'll see what her claim is. If she looks town, then Enchant v. Sunflower is a ridiculously easy choice.
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Post #127 (isolation #14) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:57 pm
Postby Prism »
I'm assuming a town player would have claimed by now if they were responsible for the claimed Ravens hijack. I was already deeply skeptical of three, but four scum-driven hijacks would be actual insanity and morph takes the blame if they thought that was fine.
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Post #130 (isolation #15) » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:08 pm
Postby Prism »
I mean I'm with you there in isolation, but Alisae just turned off e's brain for three gamedays. In contrast I don't understand how a rational human being thinks Ravens can mechanically be town. That includes morph if Ravens is somehow mechanically town.
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Post #165 (isolation #17) » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:18 am
Postby Prism »
Even though I would have flipped Von Payne yesterday, the neighborhood selection interrogation was the wrong track. I thought the backup Catgirl selection was very natural and I made it very clear I should not be picked.
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Post #166 (isolation #18) » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:23 am
Postby Prism »
The specific moonrise result today points Dunnstral-scum but I'm still confused. The tower hijack claim is nonsensical, and the double vote isn't worth getting instavoted out today. Maybe getting another dream power tomorrow is the idea but shrug.
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Post #224 (isolation #31) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:35 pm
Postby Prism »
In post 119, Prism wrote:
I've felt meh about Ydrasse and don't know why town let her off without a fullclaim but the mech power+one VT knowledge says probably town
If this wins the game after I complained about it, hilarious.
1. The Kirigiri flip was nonsensical, solidly your fault, and entirely preventable.
2. This game day should have been virtually impossible to lose on if you presented your points coherently.
I get that losing in mafia sucks but you have agency here. I didn't keep track of the votes on Hu Tao Day 1, I didn't go hard enough on Ravens/Sunflower despite having more than enough on the latter and my Von Payne/Kirigiri reads sucked.
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Post #273 (isolation #46) » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:29 pm
Postby Prism »
Von Payne should have never voted Catgirls because 4x scum dream selection mechanic would be absurd.
Similarly, no one should be voting Von Payne given that would require 3 strong scum PRs in a fairly low-mid power game. (I wouldn't consider it neighborizer strong but morph absolutely would)
Gimli/Enchant is town more by dayplay, e.g. Aureal's wall, Raven's reaction to the reporter shot, but I would have died on this hill Day 2.
And also, you know, Sunflower blitzed, but that's life.
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Post #279 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:31 am
Postby Prism »
If Von Payne didn't vote during moonrise and it loses the game it will be tragically hilarious. I feel for the town players that actually care about winning.
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Post #280 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:36 am
Postby Prism »
(I asked privately and it looks like we've got a nonvoter on our hands, resulting in scum tiebreaks getting handed out. Enchant voted, Ydrasse is unknown. Perhaps the Ydrasse giveth and the Ydrasse taketh away.)
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Post #286 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:52 am
Postby Prism »
I explicitly asked not to be neighborized since I was traveling and unavailable to post the entire weekend that coincided with night phase. It was correct to neighborize Catgirl.
I think we all had pretty mediocre reads this game, but the major issue is adjusting to mechanical reveals. There's a reason I instantly went 2/2 after the dreamer claims and before I saw the Gimli/VP town confirmations, and it wasn't because of vibes/dayplay.
I had Kyoko, Catgirl, and Von Payne all high up my scumlist and immediately discarded my reads and threw them way down to the bottom as more setup knowledge was revealed.
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Post #287 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:54 am
Postby Prism »
In post 283, Aureal wrote:
There is possibly some vote discrepancy again; but I wouldn't worry about them voting wrongly, I think town's got this unless trigonometry somehow turns out to be a way to raise the vote threshold needed so they can't actually vote out Sunflower tomorrow. And that seems really unlikely.
I checked with the mods and it's a correct VC, though we might get interesting claims around it. Check the scum PT for the tie selection mechanic, which supposedly your teammates missed.
My fear is a vig shot (hail mary sounds like it) or vote manipulation.
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Post #289 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:57 am
Postby Prism »
Day 1 I had a one-off mech read on Hu Tao that derived from the unique VT PM, which sure, whatever, easily discarded. But on Day 3, regardless of reads, Kyoko needed to be left alive to pass out invention #3 to a target of town's desire, and on Day 4 Von Payne should have spent 5 seconds to evaluate whether a fourth (!!!!) scum dream hijack mechanic made any sense.
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Post #294 (isolation #55) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:10 am
Postby Prism »
As for the qualitative side of things, we were all horribly wrong. My reads were probably the best of the town, broken clock etc., and I still wanted Von Payne and Catgirl flipped before the two remaining scum. I get no points for being right from the dead PT when they'd play the mechanics differently with me around.
It wasn't pretty across the board, and we really did earn the loss.
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Post #299 (isolation #58) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:41 am
Postby Prism »
Dunnstral I have no qualms with your gameplay EXCEPT the extra hijack claim. Obviously you are validated by town letting you get away with open mechanical murder and I'm wrong to doubt you.
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Post #300 (isolation #59) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:43 am
Postby Prism »
(Also iirc there was a bizarre hydra scum slip, I didn't bother to doublecheck but GIF made a statement about the early claim motivation, countering a cc, that contradicted a Dunnstral line about not thinking there could be a cc)