Beyond the Gap (Dead & Spectator Thread)

[Aya Shameimaru]

I found a post from Kaguya that sounded informed that Reisen would flip scum. It is what sold me 100%. I would have hard committed if Kagerou had shown up. Kagerou's lurk might throw this but I did tell Yuuka to lean Reisen.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like I found Yuuka town.

Then I found Kaguya maybe scum informed about Reisen scun flip.

Then I found Kagerou town through Larvae.

Then I reconfirmed Yuuka town.

And just waited for Kagerou to show up so I could put it into motion.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I wish my last words were more convincing. I was pretty well certain it was Reisen and Kaguya and just got shaken by how Kagerou was playing which was so anti town.

But even then I still found them town. Ahhhhh

[Aya Shameimaru]

Hahahah

[Aya Shameimaru]

You're the best Dai (i think i know your alt but not saying for incase it's still intended to be secret)

[Aya Shameimaru]

Oh good ILY Kilga ahaha <3

[Aya Shameimaru]

I almost picked Sakuya because obviously but I decided to be Aya BECAUSE SPEED OF AYAYAYA LET'S GO

[Aya Shameimaru]

Spoiler: anon guess enclosed

All hail LLD, vanquisher of our sins

For without her, this game would for sure be lost

:3

[Aya Shameimaru]

You played out of your mind lmao

I very much did. I wasnt perfect but I pulled a lost game out of the fire with both night play and day play. I am really proud of it. I am hoping Yuuka takes it home for me and sees I wantes Reisen dead and Kaguya wanted Kagerou dead in F3 after a Reisen flip (showing herself as informed as a result).

It along with my Larvae analysis should get to a win but you never know.

[Aya Shameimaru]

But thank you <3 I appreciate the praise a lot tbh

[Aya Shameimaru]

There's something to be said for wanting to be the one in control of making the ultimate decision, I suppose.

I do also feel like, once one has reached F3, they've invariably slogged through so much shit in-game that knowing there's nothing after is calming in its own way. Freedom is only a vote tag away. The game has been played well enough by both sides to have reached that point in the first place that there's a respect to be had for everyone still alive that also went through everything you went through, and even if you pick wrong, oh well, it's just a game in the end anyway.

I think I would enjoy being in F3s if I was good enough to get to them.

I killed Kaguya and made a 2p solve because I wanted to have that control so... Yeah lol. I feel this.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I think this is immenently solvable for sure. Bell can follow my solve, Bell can look at Kaguya's play yesterday, Bell can look back at our discussion on Kagerou's townshape from Larvae posts. Bell can look at roles...

It all leads to killing Reisen tbh.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Oh right Aya, now that you're here, did u actually fake claim watcher or did u misread your ability.

I misread it.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Or rather I misunderstood what "learn all abilities" meant. I thought it was a straight watcher not a Voyeur. I needed the word Voyeur.

[Aya Shameimaru]

God, Bell, these are all observations I made for you yesterday. Larvae AND Kaguya both wanted to exterminate the wolf, and not in a way that looks remotely like a bus. I know you see it, you're saying it out loud, lol.

Is this all for show or something?

[Aya Shameimaru]

God, Bell, these are all observations I made for you yesterday. Larvae AND Kaguya both wanted to exterminate the wolf, and not in a way that looks remotely like a bus. I know you see it, you're saying it out loud, lol.

Is this all for show or something?

I think he is trying to do his due diligence and let kagerou come post some before he commits, similar to how you played the last day phase.

It's a kagerou waiting room.

But unlike you, Bell just keeps on posting as he waits lol

hahahah

yeah fair enough

I was really worried about getting left in the dark, and I wanted a Kagerou check in or replace before I progressed tbh. I'm glad that Reisen did infact kill Kaguya with us lmfao

[Aya Shameimaru]

We'd honestly feel pretty bad for Aya if town messes up here

This game feels like Aya played so incredibly well that she earned a win

But, on average, I think that the scum team played better then the town (Aya Georg's play is a statistical outlier and should not have been counted), and thus also earned a win.

I don't think I will be mad at either outcome at this point.

Georg?

Should not have been counted? I'm a little confused.

That said, yeah on average scum outplayed town and if scum win this they'll have earned it without a doubt. I'll be a little sad, obviously, because I did a lot of work to carry this game but I can be proud of my individual performance and not win, you know?

Like, I feel like I showed why people need to fear me as this alignment as much as they fear me as scum, between here and Mtn. Dew Mafia. So I'm not overly like, if Bell makes the wrong call I'm not gonna feel too bad. I mean, would I prefer to have this game as a win under the belt and get the hero win? Yeah, obviously, but I fully agree that scum probably win this game if I don't play outside of my mind and if circumstances don't line up exactly right.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Its a very old meme. The original was like:

"The “average person eats 3 spiders a year" factoid is actually just statistical error. The average person eats 0 spiders per year. Spiders Georg, who lives in cave & eats over 10,000 each day, is a statistical outlier and should not be counted”"

It was then parodied into "____ Georg is a statistical outlier, and should not have been counted." But googling the meme dates it to 2013, so its old lmao.

The basic point was that the "On average, I think that the scum team played better then the town," statement needed an asterisk acknowledging you as an outlier that could single-handedly skew the data set, and in order to get a true "Average Town Play" you must not include the statistical outlier in the average.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, I got the thing you were saying but not the reference. Cool!

[Aya Shameimaru]

Sometimes you learn more from looking where something should be and inferring from the negative space than trying to read through layers of obfuscation meant to trick you.

[Aya Shameimaru]

That's all I can say to how I caught Larvae.

Alisae nudged me to look there and when I examined the world that fit around it it made sense.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I just want Bell to follow my thoughts

[Aya Shameimaru]

ALSO AYA I HAVE A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU

:3

[Aya Shameimaru]

The SECOND I knew who you both were I knew we had to kill Cabd so you couldn't link up and wreak havoc on us, isolating Aya from a Town who really weren't town-reading her

Too bad that decision ended up clearing you both and killing me instead!

yeah I uh, did the action I did because with Cabd's claim, cabd's identity and cabd's position in town as the only one helping me I could NOT AFFORD THAT NIGHTKILL.

So, yep. lol

[Aya Shameimaru]

Koishi was always the front half of my ability, the question was always who the back half was, that was gonna be the harder part.

[Aya Shameimaru]

thank you for taking it back home after Bell

also, wheeeeeeeeeee i did a carry let's goooo