Newbie 2117 | Postgame

[Malakittens]

andante was scummy for that hammer on D1
Andante is very known for claiming without thought
andante plays chaotic majority of the time

[Black]

Ninja'd: Yeah if what you're saying is true, then Andante couldn't have done the NK - the logic wouldn't work if you really were a JK. You know your own night actions, why would you then go on to say something that is completely incompatible with your claimed actions?

Bingo. mala said she thought Andante did the kill even though that's impossible. That makes me think mala is lying about her night actions

Of course I thought that anyway, but I wanted to entertain mala's Andante!scum theory

This is a town post by Delta btw. I'm convinced it's mala/Blue

[Deltabreedy]

I honestly feel ready for a Mala lim

[Malakittens]

no, i thought she had a shot at doing the kill hence i targetted her
but it doesnt clear her b/c theres two scum alive

[Deltabreedy]

No, I think Andante did the NK hence why I used JK as RB'r

If Andante did the NK
And you JK'd Andante

The only way that works is if you were Roleblocked.
With Black suspecting you heavily, myself suspecting you marginally and there being a fair chance of you being limmed tomorrow, I don't personally think you would have been an optimal target for a RB in an Andante/Blue scenario. My gut says that this is a 1/3 choice for scum (assuming what you say, it being Andante/Blue) between You, Black and I after the NK on Alianna which isn't awful mathematical odds, but it also doesn't take into account your D2 inactivity for much of it, where it was just Black and I going hammer and tongs and being strong characters.

The assumption that you're essentially asking of us is that a role blocker selected their lim target as the person to target with a night action and I just don't see the odds working on that.

[Black]

No, I think Andante did the NK hence why I used JK as RB'r

Yeah like Delta said, this feels like a slip. There's no way you could think Andante did the NK after Aureal died

[Deltabreedy]

I think throwing shade at Blue is a distancing effort and you've managed to maintain a scumread on them all through D2 without once voting for them or justifying why you hold this read.

[Malakittens]

I TARGETTED HER THINKING SHE WAS MOST LIKELY TO DO THE FUCKING KILL

OBV SHE DIDNT
BUT IT DOESNT CLEAR HER BECAUSE SHE IS STILL SCUM
SHE JUST DIDNT DO THE KILL

[Malakittens]

again please explain how she is claiming friendly neighbor
WHICH IS VERY CONFIRMABLE

YET SHES NOT CONFIRMED WITH THE ROLE???????

[Malakittens]

and we are letting the bullshit excuse of
"I thought it was one shot"

when it clearly states in the PM that its ONE PLAYER PER NIGHT

[Malakittens]

1shots dont exsist in a newbie queue

and andante is experienced to know that

[Malakittens]

but shes still CONFIRMED scum
bc i'm the fucking jailkeeper
and shes claiming FN
and IT ISNT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THREE TOWN PRS EXSIST IN A NEWBIE GAME

[Black]

I TARGETTED HER THINKING SHE WAS MOST LIKELY TO DO THE FUCKING KILL

OBV SHE DIDNT
BUT IT DOESNT CLEAR HER BECAUSE SHE IS STILL SCUM
SHE JUST DIDNT DO THE KILL

Yeah I understand all this mala, I just think your word choice saying "I think Andante did the NK" after I asked you if you thought Blue did it was really weird. You THOUGHT Andante would do the NK but if you are telling the truth then there's no way you would think she did it over Blue here

[Malakittens]

please explain how this is a slip
bc i dont fucking understand
its not a slip

[Black]

and we are letting the bullshit excuse of
"I thought it was one shot"

when it clearly states in the PM that its ONE PLAYER PER NIGHT

It fits her chaotic play doesn't it? It's pretty clear she is barely paying attention to the game

[Malakittens]

I targetted her thinking she did the NK
but obv she didnt
so her partner did it
again
i'm leaning towards blue or delta

but HOW WOULD I HAVE KNOWN SHE WASNT GOING TO DO THE NK i cant read bloody minds

[Malakittens]

and we are letting the bullshit excuse of
"I thought it was one shot"

when it clearly states in the PM that its ONE PLAYER PER NIGHT

It fits her chaotic play doesn't it? It's pretty clear she is barely paying attention to the game

dude
she isn't a newbie
she knows better
she KNOWs that 1shots dont exsist in a newbie game

[Malakittens]

i'm so glad shes got you fooled like a bird eating seed out of her palm

[Black]

please explain how this is a slip
bc i dont fucking understand
its not a slip

Ok I'll walk you through it

997 - I ask you who you think Andante's partner is
998 - you say Blue
999 - I ask you why they would send Blue to do the NK and not Andante
1001 - you ignore this and say you targeted Andante bc she was likely to make the kill. Then you say that you never said Blue made the kill. Idk what you are even trying to say in this post
1006 - you say it doesn't make sense for wolves to send Blue to make the hit
1009 - I say that in your mind you should think that the wolves sent Blue bc you blocked Andante and a kill still went through
1010 -

you say you don't think they sent Blue

1013 - I'm confused and I ask you to clarify, because if you think Blue is Andante's buddy then you should think Blue was sent to make the NK
1014 -

you say again that you think Andante made the NK

This is a slip. You're not the Jailkeeper

[Deltabreedy]

@Mala: Reading today you seem convinced that it's Blue, why? Take your time, I know I won't be hammering anytime soon and I want to give you a spot to say your piece and give us your solve, and I'd be keen on the following questions:

1. You put me at L-1 yesterday, but you now seem convinced that it's Blue and not me. Can you justify this for me?
2. Why have you not voted Blue this game despite a targetted ISO showing that you have held a scumread on them all game?
3. Why are you not considering Andante/Black?

Take your time on this and decompress, no rush - the day won't be ending anytime soon and I'd like a response that is a bit more measured and calm than an AtE and capital letters.

My mind is close to made up, but I made the mistake last game of not letting someone have their say and it lost the game.

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@Black, Blue

I feel ready, want to hear Mala speak over the next day or so RE: the above but keen on your thoughts because we also have tomorrow to go over and find scum again. Under this I am going by the assumption that Andante is town having a bad game RE: their actual powers which is pretty bad tbh.

Andante's claimed Night Actions are reasonably convenient, but I'm at present more convinced towards Scum!Mala - let her say her piece first.

Ninja'd, but none of it affects what I say above.

[Black]

@Delta - we definitely flip mala today. That clears Andante. Blue will kill Andante N3 and then it'll be up to me and you to vote for Blue

Town loses if you are somehow fooling everyone here

[Deltabreedy]

God I'd love being a genius of that caliber.

Why are you so convinced it's blue and not me?

I hate meta but

You've fooled me before. Keen on hearing why you're so convinced when yesterday you were pretty sure it was me.

[Malakittens]

honest to god black i misread it
you might think its a slip
but i misread
i was at work and was dealing with shit while posting

I wasn't really comprehending what you were asking
which is why i was confused and then i got frustated

[Malakittens]

fucking bullshit 1045 loses the game and scum wins

do you really want to do that?

[Black]

God I'd love being a genius of that caliber.

Why are you so convinced it's blue and not me?

I hate meta but

You've fooled me before. Keen on hearing why you're so convinced when yesterday you were pretty sure it was me.

Once I got out of my tunnel I started looking back at the thread in a new light. I didn't like how it felt like Blue was trying to bus mala at the end of D2. I don't like how mala has SR'ed Blue the entire game and never voted for him. I also think your AtE at the end of D2 might have swayed my gut feeling a bit. If you are scum with mala then why would you beg me to lim mala first? That would only make sense if you were scum with Blue, and that can't be true since one of mala/Andante has to be scum. I guess you could be scum with Andante? Not sure how I feel about that scenario