Newbie 2033: Borkdörkjello - Game Over

[JDye]

*if today's elim flips green

[notscience]

Like I said I really doubt it’s cw and would only be voting because maybe I’m off a cliff as a byproduct of my disengagement

I can guarantee you tho at least two of both of those pools are town :p

[JDye]

This might be throwing a little but fuck it.

VOTE: Alonzo

E,-1

[JDye]

I've had sus feelings about Alonzo longer than I have CW and I get the feeling I've been pocketed by Alonzo.

[notscience]

I’ll give him forty minutes before I hammer

He’s normally around about now

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 3.5

[2] Alonzo (cw357, JDye)
[1] Adorable (notscience)
[1] cw357 (Alonzo)
[1] notscience (Adorable)

With 5 alive, it is 3 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-22 22:00:00)

[JDye]

It's been an hour. I think it's time to come through with this hammer.

[notscience]

VOTE: alonzo

I hope this is right I really fucking hate cylo

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 3.6 (Final)

[3] Alonzo (cw357, JDye, notscience)

[1] cw357 (Alonzo)
[1] notscience (Adorable)

With 5 alive, it is 3 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

An elimination has been reached. Flip incoming.

[borkjerfkin]

Alonzo,

Vanilla Townie,

was eliminated Day 3.

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Night actions are due in (expired on 2020-10-24 22:00:00)

If the entire surviving playerlist agrees to a short night via PM, I will shorten the night and give an hour warning from when I receive PMs from all living players.

Otherwise night will proceed as normal.

[borkjerfkin]

Adorable,

Vanilla Townie,

was killed Night 3.

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Day 4 begins now.

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 4.0

[3] Not Voting (cw357, notscience, JDye)

With 3 alive, it is 2 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-31 22:00:00)

[notscience]

Oh boy. Cylo.

My favorite.

[JDye]

It's late, so I'm not going to say much right now. First thing first sorry Alonzo. Second thing, immediate sus on notScience.

Bothh me and CW had adorable as lock town. Scum!notScience has to eliminate them otherwise whoever survives out of me or CW has an easy win. If CW was imposter, they kill me and that leaves them with notScience who has CW has strong town read and is sus of adorable.

[JDye]

Other things, how much has notScience really tried to scum hunt this game? From a skim if their recent days, not much. D1, can't remember much but they didn't do much hunting either. Mentioned scum copying another player in a previous game and sat on AG the whole time. D2, they take rannys side and don't really question anything. D3, they just tunnel AG for awful reasons.

Their mention of that previous game is weird too. I read it and saw some sheeping, it was interesting but not to the point that it should be brought up so frequently.

Regarding D2 they jumped on rannys side whilst simultaneously defending petapan and getting ready to switch sides when it looked like the tides might turn. There was their whole "3 reasons to convince me" but that could have just as easily been an excuse for them to their switch their vote around.

[JDye]

As for reasons for CW being scum it comes down to their day 1 play, lack of engagement and general OMGUSing

[JDye]

I lean not science here over cw. I said a while ago I thought the scum pool was either alonzo/notScience.

[JDye]

It's late, so I'm not going to say much right now. First thing first sorry Alonzo. Second thing, immediate sus on notScience.

Bothh me and CW had adorable as lock town. Scum!notScience has to eliminate them otherwise whoever survives out of me or CW has an easy win. If CW was imposter, they kill me and that leaves them with notScience who has CW has strong town read and is sus of adorable.

CW also could have played along with adorable and gone after notscience too. Thinking about it, they also could have elimmed adorable and gone after me with notscience so yeah. I see why analysing night kills isn't the best thing in the world.

[JDye]

Not going to post much lmore until I see something substantial from CW. If they are scum, I don't want them slipping by while my confirmation bias does all the work for him.

[cw357]

ill iso both of u and interactions with dong ig

jdye seemed like tryharding newbie on early days which could go either way but it could corroborate other evidence ig

notscience has had kind of meh play the whole game
which I don't see coming from newbie scum but maybe from experienced scum?

idk hopefully interactions give something valuable.

[cw357]

I know this probably looks weird, but whatever. I've changed my mind. Trying to give notScience three reasons for voting ranny was difficult. I think I've let a general dislike for some of ranny's unnecessarily antagonistic posts influence my read too much. Maybe I've been caught up in petapan's ISO diving. I dunno. I'm just not sure what to do and thinking about it properly like notScience wants me to, voting ranny doesn't feel the right choice here.

It's a two horse race so....
VOTE: petapan

If I make it to day 3, hopefully it's less guesswork than the last two days.

hmmm

read JDye's iso if you want for greater context, but in the cc situtation we had (obviously fairly important, mishanging/correctly hanging = no remaining mishangs/1 reminaing mishang) JDye fence-sat for the beginning of the day, then tried to make a push on ranny when it was looking popular, and then all of a sudden, in the quoted post, jumped on the petapan wagon when a hang was about to be made

that seems like a newbscum move imo, but I'd like to hear JDye's response/defense to this.

[JDye]

read JDye's iso if you want for greater context, but in the cc situtation we had (obviously fairly important, mishanging/correctly hanging = no remaining mishangs/1 reminaing mishang) JDye fence-sat for the beginning of the day, then tried to make a push on ranny when it was looking popular, and then all of a sudden, in the quoted post, jumped on the petapan wagon when a hang was about to be made

Seems that you've misread Day2. I didn't fence sit and make a push on ranny when it was popular, I was the first one to start questioning Ranny about why the claimed, why they didn't reveal their result and so on. Also, a hang wasn't about to be made. With me, you and petapan all voting Ranny, and with adorable seeming to sus ranny too, the elim could go either way. If I'd sat on Ranny, they probably would have been elimmed. I re-evalutated my reads and decided to go with the simplest option rather than a more complex one that required some twisted logic to justify it. This was prompted by notScience's post as well as Ranny's questions and change in tone of their most recent posts.

notscience has had kind of meh play the whole game
which I don't see coming from newbie scum but maybe from experienced scum?

Uh, yeah, obviously...! notScience is an SE. This account has been on the site 7 years and they've got 20,000 posts. I think it's fair to say that they're experienced.

ill iso both of u and interactions with dong ig

Interesting thing to note, and something Adorable brought up, notScience said Dong was a scum leaning read with potential to move up. They also mentioned that they try to avoid reading their scum partners to strongly, so possibly a bit of a tell here.

[cw357]

hm

so you're right; you didn't scumread ranny when it was popular, you started the wagon on alonzo

truthfully the stuff with whether or not scum would lurk is wifom so disregard that

that's an interesting point notscience; would you mind linking the post?

[cw357]

EBWOP "that's an interesting point

about

notscience;"

[JDye]

You think blatant chainsawing like that comes from a newbscum duo? Newbscum typically struggle with reads on their buddy going too far in the red direction. I usually make a disclaimer in my newbie scum games to them about it so they know to adjust a bit for it. I think defense like that would more likely come from town or scum on town lol.

Ranny
cw
Alonzo (felt better after the initial safe reads)
Jdye
Sesq
Dong
Koba/AG (one is scum other is town)

But I feel like my reads feel way too safe for how the game has been. My top two townreads I'd take to the bank everyone else is subject to move, I'm mostly angling a PoE atm

The four in the middle are subject to change. I think Dong has potential to move upwards. Sesq downwards. Alonzo is playing a safe game and it feels like they're in that crevice scum would want to be in this game.

So they didn't explicitly say they try to read their partner neutrally, but they say they tell newb scum to do so, so they probably do the same themselves.