Newbie 1756: Balloon (Game Over)

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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:58 pm

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Votecount 3.17 (Final)


[3] Morning Tweet (Manuel87, Accountant, Loopdan)

[2] Accountant (Morning Tweet, mhsmith0)

With 5 alive, it is 3 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

A lynch has been reached. Flip incoming.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:03 pm

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Morning Tweet,
Vanilla Townie,
was lynched Day 3.
Loopdan,
Vanilla Townie,
was endgamed Day 3.
mhsmith0,
Vanilla Townie,
was endgamed Day 3.

Accountant,
Mafia Goon,
survives.
Manuel87,
Mafia Roleblocker,
survives.

Game over.


Mafia Wins!
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:03 pm

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Feel free to post. Game end stuff coming soon.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:03 pm

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Not shocked. Oh well I did my damn best.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:03 pm

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Damnit.

GG scum.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:04 pm

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Also was dead right on accountant being the goon protecting the rb there. Smith GOAT, eats loss anyway. Fun times.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:04 pm

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Anyway well played to the scum, you didn't really deserve someone coming in and wrecking the foundation you'd laid anyway.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:05 pm

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Gg all. I replaced at a bad time and in a bad slot. Unfortunately I didn't have much time to turn this around in town's favor.

My problem that I've noticed is that my reads are correct, but I tend to second guess myself and have a difficult time articulating my case.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:05 pm

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Ballsy move by manny to vote tweet there btw when bussing would have been so much easier.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:05 pm

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t'was a tough'un thanks for obvtowning my slot up loop. cgratz to the scum.

kudos to morning tweet for solving that really tough game.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:06 pm

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Accountant did a great job of pulling the wool over town's eyes.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:09 pm

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In post 1133, mhsmith0 wrote:Ballsy move by manny to vote tweet there btw when bussing would have been so much easier.
Especially when it looked like I was going to be voting Accountant. Yeah, that threw me off the scum-team.
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:10 pm

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In post 1136, Loopdan wrote:
In post 1133, mhsmith0 wrote:Ballsy move by manny to vote tweet there btw when bussing would have been so much easier.
Especially when it looked like I was going to be voting Accountant. Yeah, that threw me off the scum-team.
Had you followed the back and forth between me and accountant? I thought it was actually fairly clear who was the town vs scum just from what happened after my first vote.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:12 pm

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Hard game
mhsmith replacing in almost turned it around^^
@ThinkBig: yeah you replaced into a slot that was most likely going to be lynched no matter what you did on top of that with almost no time left.
@mhsmith: I thought pushing tweet over bussing was the only move to turn this game into our favor after you pretty much sloved it.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:14 pm

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In post 1138, Manuel87 wrote:Hard game
mhsmith replacing in almost turned it around^^
@ThinkBig: yeah you replaced into a slot that was most likely going to be lynched no matter what you did on top of that with almost no time left.
@mhsmith: I thought pushing tweet over bussing was the only move to turn this game into our favor after you pretty much sloved it.
Yeah it was a solid move. I still thought accountant was increasingly obvious to any outside observer with every post he or I made but thems the breaks.
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:16 pm

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Setup info:

[Middle Row]: Cop, Doctor, 5x VT vs Goon, Roleblocker

Night Actions:

N1:
Manuel87 blocks Charloux
Charloux protects WSCBO (fails)
Manuel87 kills WSCBO
WSCBO investigates Accountant (receives guilty, but dies)

N2:
Manuel87 blocks JaeReed
JaeReed protects Accountant
Accountant kills JaeReed

Dead PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=69132
Spoilered Dead PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=69279

as a courtesy, I will allow scum 24 hours in which to request the mafia PT not to be released, after which I will release it.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:17 pm

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Second time I subbed in as town in LYLO or MYLO, second time I largely solved the game, second time I lost on the day I subbbed in anyway (at least the open 635 ending was hilarious tho). Frustrating because I literally do not know how I could have done any better, other than pushing manny harder when I wasn't really sure of myself there.
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SR: I want to give him a day
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:24 pm

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thanks smith for the sub and reading through and coming to the correct conclusions <3 I thought you were pretty obvtown but y'know... that was after Accountant killed me xP I think I reached the dead thread and actually said something to the effect of my death making Accountant scum lol.

Doesn't do any good to know that once I'm dead tho xP

smith I thought you did a good job honestly. I think it was just the foundation already being there that messed things up there.
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:25 pm

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Morning Tweet, you were right on the fucking money and that's amazing so props to you there.

Grats to Accountant and Manny for the win! <3
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:26 pm

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IMO I played about as well as I could have played in that slot. Some games you come away learning from defeat, this one I just happened to lose. Don't really see anything in partuclar I could / should have done better, tho if anyone has suggestions I'm all ears. Think this dropped me back below .500 record-wise, always annoying when that happens. Alas.
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:28 pm

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Some quick thoughts:

1) HUGE THANKS to all the replacements. You know who you are and this wouldn't have been possible without you.
2) props to Morning Tweet, WSCBO, and Accountant, the only players from the original list to not be replaced.
3) Congrats to the scum team -- I mentioned this in the dead PT, but Accountant's constant breaking up town townreading town posts was key to winning. Manuel looked invested so that everyone was willing to consider Manuel vs Tweet as TVT
4) Morning Tweet did a good job of identifying alignment indicative behavior from scum all game - she needed to push a little harder. Some advice on that: the spoilered quote walls have gotta go -- a lot of people probably had a hard time parsing who was saying what / what was new from what you posted, or just skipped it. If it's not worth not spoilering, it's probably not worth posting.
5) WSCBO softing (well, harding) cop ended up being a huge mistake. Attempting to signal charloux unfortunately signalled everyone, including scum. You'd have been better off making everyone guess; there is no setup in matrix 6 that allows follow the cop to work without a dead roleblocker.
6) mhsmith taking control of LyLo came very, very close to winning a nigh unwinnable situation for town, but the first two days were how we got here. The perspective slip post was a really good post and people should read it as a really good example of identifying non-obvious scum cognitive dissonance.
7) JaeReed did a very good job ovtowning the slot -- I predicted a lot of things that ended up being wrong (paranoia over doctor claim) because of that.
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:28 pm

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I think you did quite well. Unfortunately this game had way too many replacements. Only 2 of the original players stuck with it to the end.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:29 pm

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pstttt mhsmith0 you should change your quote from me to the one i put about you in the spoilers pt
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:31 pm

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In post 1146, ThinkBig wrote:I think you did quite well. Unfortunately this game had way too many replacements. Only 3 of the original players stuck with it to the end.
Fixed. I failed to notice that once slot had two replacements total. Pathetic.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:32 pm

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Yeah I don't think you could have done much more there?

Also I should know better than to ever go down saying never to vote Accountant after my first mini normal with them.

@Accountant you're not unable to self vote as scum!IC btw. It was the right move not to do so here, obviously, but I believe self hammering as scum!IC is fine as per http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... _a_good_IC

pedit - yeah on this site apparently the only thing I have really going for me is that I can obvtown... STILL don't know how :/
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