Newbie 1770: Water Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

I can contribute more in terms of everyone's play but I am not the IC and am going to wait for them to do so before I do anything.

[TierShift]

Great game. Thanks for modding, mhs.
Sorry I was absent for a few days. Good job, rc but also fykus, for staying on track. How were you so hell-bent on me being town, rC?

If anyone wants feedback, feel free to ask. RC, I generally don't do large posts giving feedback unless asked for, so for it.

Fykus, I enjoyed playing with you. You were very honest, which in the end made clear you were town. I just do not think most of the reasons you gave for scumreading people were actually alignment-indicative. Great point by smith on fights not being indicative.

Generally, finding scum is hard and finding town is much easier. Try spotting things scum would never do and work from PoE. Stick around and see which scumtells really work.

[RadiantCowbells]

How were you so hell-bent on me being town, rC?

Before I answer that, did you scumread me for it?

[schadd_]

-grey- this game: 4 unquoted "fuck"s page 1, 32 page 2
in 1769: 12 page 1, 4 page 2 (though a smaller page 2)

and i don't think that's as telling as how genuinely frustrated they sound. e.g. this game had way more in all caps/"motherfucking"

[TierShift]

How were you so hell-bent on me being town, rC?

Before I answer that, did you scumread me for it?

Not at all.

[RadiantCowbells]

So I think it is partially a playstyle thing but a lot of your posts were really short and you didn't make a point of explaining exactly what your thought process behind your posts was
but I could read through the game and understand the thought process behind literally everything that you were doing but if you were scum good enough to fake you'd probably be more transparent about it.

So like there was this obvious town thought process that you weren't at all shoving in people's faces and a whole bunch of really town motivated stances.

[RadiantCowbells]

I was less certain about Fykus but that read mostly came down to the fact that he actually literally never mentioned Pepcho once. I feel like if they were scumpartners there would be SOMETHING there.
Also because Fykus's reaction to being wagoned felt pretty towny and I just had a gut read that I've played with people like him before and they were town.

So in the end it really came down to Grey and Nydus and I was starting to feel like Grey was being legit on the last day phase then I read Nydus and the literal first post responding to Pepcho with the exaggerated ellipses then their respond to being wagoned just settled it for me.

[TierShift]

Seriously could you ever see supernewb scum just throwing out that VT claim at the slightest hint of pressure?

[RadiantCowbells]

I could see someone who is smarter than they let on doing so as scum.

[TierShift]

Are you implying you thought that he could have been experienced and hiding it or that he could have come up with this after really not understanding anything at first?

[Fykus]

Ill admit that i never once considered pep or nydus as scummy. I guess they just seemed really neutral to me whereas rc and grey stood out the most because of their attitudes (grey especially). Thats something ill definately work on from now on.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm implying that he could have been hiding behind a faked inexperience to get away with thing.

Fykus, I think that you were too focused on the active players and just wrote the people who weren't posting as town.

[Fykus]

Yeah it could have been a combination of both. I remember on day 1 i was convinced ts was scum because of his constant questions and lack on information.

[mhsmith0]

I guess they just seemed really neutral to me

that's at least something of a scum tell, fwiw. tonally neutral and/or just not standing out at all are things that scum do sometimes.

[-Grey-]

Ayyy.

So Grey isn't actually House then and this game proves it. House would have known about the goon-jailkeeper thing.

Holy Christ man, thank you for burying that bone!

[RadiantCowbells]

dw about it I'm still calling you house for the rest of your MS career.

[Alisae]

Adorable.
btw I totally watched this game every now and then cuz bored.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well let me know if anyone wants input.

[-Grey-]

I'll bite, whatcha got?

[nydushermain]

AHHH gg T.T. I had IRL stuff to deal with this entire week but didn't want to vla. Damn. I think I had a good shot otherwise T.T

[Fykus]

Any chance of the mafia thread being posted?

[mhsmith0]

oh whoops
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=69951

mod forgets things sometimes

[Fykus]

thanks

[RadiantCowbells]

NOt entirely comfortable giving you play talk while we're in ongoings.

[-Grey-]

NOt entirely comfortable giving you play talk while we're in ongoings.

Guess I'll never get advice from you.