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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:58 am

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V O T E C O U N T
2 . 1 4
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(5)
Netherspite -
Bulbazak, Malakittens, acryon, T S O, Aquanim
(L-0)

(1)
acryon -
davesaz
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(1)
davesaz -
Xayzeck
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(2)
Not Voting — Shinobi, Netherspite


With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch

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A majority vote has been reached.

A lynch has been achieved.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:06 am

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Netherspite has been lynched on
Day 2
. He was a
Vanilla Townie


Night 2
begins now.

If you have a night action, please PM it to me in the next 48 hours.


Deadline for night actions is (expired on 2015-01-02 16:05:00)
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:13 am

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Nobody died Night 2.

Day 3 starts now!



V O T E C O U N T
3 . 0 0
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Not Voting — Bulbazak, Shinobi, T S O, Xayzeck, acryon, Aquanim, davesaz, Malakittens


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(expired on 2015-01-16 16:15:00)
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:16 am

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Unless I'm missing something, either the JK JK'd our vig and scum no-killed to throw things off, or the JK JK'd scum and the Vig targeted scum as well. The latter seems far more likely.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:31 am

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Hmm, I wonder if the JK would save the target if both the vig and scum tried the same kill?
It's also possible the vig sent no order, and the JK could have jailed either the scum or target.

Scum no-killing to get us a false guilty is a definite possibility. It may even be the most likely one if scum isn't one of the people we were discussing as possible targets.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:41 am

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In post 1604, davesaz wrote:Hmm, I wonder if the JK would save the target if both the vig and scum tried the same kill?
It's also possible the vig sent no order, and the JK could have jailed either the scum or target.

Scum no-killing to get us a false guilty is a definite possibility. It may even be the most likely one if scum isn't one of the people we were discussing as possible targets.

The role PM in the first post says that JK would protect them from "one night kill", so they wouldn't be protected from both it looks like. If the role-cop investigated a townie, it is still GG, however, as that would give the town 4 confirmed townies. It's possibly I'm missing something here, and of course it shouldn't happen until we discuss it a bit more I think, but if the role-cop checked a VT or scum, it's GG.
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:26 am

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Probably VIG no shot and the JK jailed either scum or jailed scum's target.

Or the JK jailed the Vig and the scum tried to kill the vig, lol.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:27 am

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Or scum no killed to set up someone
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:30 am

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It seems odd to me that the vig wouldn't shoot, especially when there were several people advocating a vig shot on me. Either way, there is a 5/7 chance that the role-cop investigated someone besides the vig and JK, and if they did, it's game over, right?
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:31 am

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can we just massclaim and end it, the game's locked down
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:32 am

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between them the rc and jk should have enough clears to be able to manipulate the set-up with policy vigs to win
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:40 am

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How does the ordering work with PRs and NKs?
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:45 am

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In post 1609, T S O wrote:can we just massclaim and end it, the game's locked down

Assuming vig goes through even if he is NK'd, we do actually just win here. If we massclaim, we get 3 PRs and 5 unknowns. If we lynch and vig from the 5, then role check and JK two of the other 3 unknowns, we win. If scum kills the vig, we end up with 2 PRs, one role confirmed, and 2 unknowns, which is a win. If scum kills the role cop, we end up with 2 PRs and 3 unknowns. We then lynch one unknown, vig the other, and JK the last, which is GG.
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:44 am

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Why massclaim?
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:45 am

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because the game's over, Xay.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:46 am

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8 people, 3 PR's
5 scum people left
Within 2 nights we're bound to have 2 clears from RC/JK combined
From there, lynch and JK/Vig remaining 2
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:47 am

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Yeah, it's GG.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:48 am

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I don't see how JK gets us clears since JK is scum but I see the RC
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:49 am

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In post 1617, Xayzeck wrote:I don't see how JK gets us clears since JK is scum but I see the RC

JK is only scum if he kills our JK.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:49 am

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In post 1618, acryon wrote:
In post 1617, Xayzeck wrote:I don't see how JK gets us clears since JK is scum but I see the RC

JK is only scum if he kills our JK.

And even if he does that, we still win, because he can't JK and kill.
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:49 am

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or right so backup jk is scum?
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:50 am

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Yeah I meant to say that scum is only JK if he kills our JK, not that JK is only scum.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:52 am

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Claim: Backup Role Cop


I missed my first night investigation because I procrastinated, but I checked TSO last night and got Backup JK back.

I thought he was town because I thought backup JK was town, I'm dumb! I didn't want to listen to the T S O case mostly because I didn't bother looking into it now that I could check him and get it over with, but more importantly if he was scum I didn't to get my butt rekt so yeah

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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:52 am

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tl;dr lynch tso and we win
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:53 am

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You'd think that I'd be better than that and realise that TSO blindly calling Pasch and Luca town would mean something huh?
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