Backstabbers Mafia: An Almost Normal Upick (Mini 1876)

[Titus]

Was Math the last traitor?

No.

Math was the exact role they said. They forgot about RC's penchant to gambit to try to draw/not draw a night kill. They went straight from lie to guilty.

The reason Math's role didn't detect all night actions is because I didn't want Math to pick up on the traitors or vigs. Their role was designed to detect the scum cop. They would get a result on Pine, but not Fire. This makes massclaim hard on Fire.

If you nled and then massclaimed, Math might have gotten a useful result.

You can't say forgot when the entire game was like hey that's not alignment indicative and they moved from that into claiming to have other info from their result.

They had ceased listening at that point. They felt everyone was ignoring lies. Perhaps forgot to account for was better language.

I would have force replaced them but had no hook to do so.

Same with Grey but he was self hammerred when I wasn't on.

[Firebringer]

i had no idea what i was going to claim if we reached a mass claim.
I was planning on making a ridiculous claim (Titus can tell you, cause i was talking to her about it), various crazy things entered my mind, but I never really settled on what i was going for.

i was almost thinking of just claiming my role and going along with it.
meh.

Who had my character anyways?

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Wait, so Math wasn't even scum? - Don't join any games I'm in any more, Math... Guilty... I guess you learn today that guilty has a different meaning,
I would have probably lynched Pine, but I wouldn't have lynched Fire, so I guess Fire can enjoy a win since most people didn't have him as scum.

I guess Cloud was only a 1 shot Vig?

Thanks for modding Titus.

[MathBlade]

Ignoring 4 lies in a row is a guilty.
RC was finishing for acceptable in my point of view.
I don't give a shit about what you have a penchant for or if someone does it and some point simplest answer is best and that I had a guilty on the RC Think Big slot.

I really wish people would stop saying I faked a guilty I didn't.
RC was not PGO ergo guilty.

I would do it 100 times over. No regrets.

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Who had my character anyways?

I was Jack Sparrow.

[MathBlade]

And sorry for the PGO fakeclaim I guess? but I don't think that it would have done damage if Math didn't go totally unhinged that last day phase.

Fakeclaim = guilty

Omg wtf

This game pisses me off so damn much

[Firebringer]

Who had my character anyways?

I was Jack Sparrow.

MY MAFIA SPIRIT ANIMAL!
<3

[MathBlade]

Like wtf that is like mafia 101.
Someone claims tracker
Isn't a tracker
Then they are guilty and you lynch them.

Like TBH once RC didn't immediately say VT and tried to keep the PGO claim the game was over

[RadiantCowbells]

math literally everyone in the game told you that was nai. I wouldn't do it if I didn't know that everyone in the game would point out it's nai when/if it was revealed. I am not responsible for your inability to listen.

[RadiantCowbells]

if you're going to say that I am responsible for you lying about a result and then refusing to listen to literally every single player in the game telling you that your point is dumb then uh. bye.

[Firebringer]

Like wtf that is like mafia 101.
Someone claims tracker
Isn't a tracker
Then they are guilty and you lynch them.

Like TBH once RC didn't immediately say VT and tried to keep the PGO claim the game was over

ill say it again, because when I said it, I 100% meant it.

The game isn't that black and white.

[Titus]

Wait, so Math wasn't even scum? - Don't join any games I'm in any more, Math... Guilty... I guess you learn today that guilty has a different meaning,
I would have probably lynched Pine, but I wouldn't have lynched Fire, so I guess Fire can enjoy a win since most people didn't have him as scum.

I guess Cloud was only a 1 shot Vig?

Thanks for modding Titus.

@1stvt, yeah, Cloud was one shot. The idea was to give town an ability to take out lurkers and other obvscum people.

Game was also built on traitor scum bussing early if Cloud missed his vig or held it with 2 town lynches. Hence backstabbing scum.

[MathBlade]

I didn't LIE damn it.

You weren't PGO.
You didn't use an action to shut it off.
You then claimed VT.

From my POV you could have said one shot tracker.

I don't care what is NAI for you.
Then what in every game do you get 3-4 cracks at true claiming.

And some point I keep it simple and you are lying scum and I have a guilty.
The fact everyone was right and you were Town just pisses me off.

[Firebringer]

Yeah no.

You put the game world in a black and white scenario when it isn't true.

I fake claim as town and scum all the time.
RC does it all the time too.

What matters is the intention behind the fake claim.
You should know this, i fake claimed vigilante as town with you in the game.

[MathBlade]

Like that shit on DLP gets you lynched every fucking time.
You don't fake claim like that ever and expect to live.
That may not be a guilty here but that is site meta and that site meta should change.

[Human Sequencer]

Calm down everybody. Remember this is just a silly game we play on the internet and being wrong isn't even that bad.

[ThinkBig]

I have no hard feelings for math. If I was in another slot, I'd probably have also lynched RC. I'm a firm believer in lynching all liars. The fact that RC couldn't have taken back her claim immediately shows that she is anti-town as fuck, and never ever threaten to game throw regardless of alignment.

[MathBlade]

Yeah no.

You put the game world in a black and white scenario when it isn't true.

I fake claim as town and scum all the time.
RC does it all the time too.

What matters is the intention behind the fake claim.
You should know this, i fake claimed vigilante as town with you in the game.

Intention there is no good reason to fake claim PGO.
Blah I tried when it was suggested others agreed.

Far as I am concerned I will note to never trust an RC claim at this point :/ That is where I am at TBH.

[ThinkBig]

Calm down everybody. Remember this is just a silly game we play on the internet and being wrong isn't even that bad.

^^ Exactly

[MathBlade]

Calm down everybody. Remember this is just a silly game we play on the internet and being wrong isn't even that bad.

Oh I am okay being wrong.
Just this was bad.

And until people quit justifying bad behavior it doesn't get better.

[MathBlade]

I have no hard feelings for math. If I was in another slot, I'd probably have also lynched RC. I'm a firm believer in lynching all liars. The fact that RC couldn't have taken back her claim immediately shows that she is anti-town as fuck, and never ever threaten to game throw regardless of alignment.

/me hugs

[Firebringer]

RC shouldn't have claimed PGO, thats clear. It was just there because he didn't want to be NK.
Math shouldn't have assumed a fake claim equals him being scum.

Thats all that we should take and move on.

[Titus]

Like that shit on DLP gets you lynched every fucking time.
You don't fake claim like that ever and expect to live.
That may not be a guilty here but that is site meta and that site meta should change.

Math, why don't we work on Mass Effect 2 later?

[Firebringer]

Far as I am concerned I will note to never trust an RC claim at this point :/ That is where I am at TBH.

Not trusting his claim is a step forward IMO.
You have to read his actions. That action FMPOV was NAI.

There were several other actions you could have read his motivations from.

[Titus]

You should have listened though Math and RC should not have done as many fakes but that's their schtick.