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Post Post #6400 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:15 am

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PAGETOP
In post 836, Lucky2u said:

Rule # 5h05: players should not attempt to use or manipulate the mod for any purpose.
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Post Post #6401 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:35 am

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In post 6400, shos wrote:PAGETOP

Reported.
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Post Post #6402 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:36 am

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(not really)

but still, you should wait for the flip before you do that :O
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Post Post #6403 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:19 pm

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In post 6397, Pirate Ika wrote:
In post 6396, Muffin wrote:
In post 6123, Muffin wrote:
In post 6118, Pirate Ika wrote:does anythign not make sense/confusing?

I follow, that all makes sense to me from the POV of you as town.


Learning opportunity. I should have trusted this instinct instead of second guessing.


Truth be told, mollie was the one who would not let me throw out an obscure theory and that my reachout to you was trying to show you the transparency of my thoughts.

One of mykey things that i struggle with at times is showing how my thoughts work out, and TBF my scum!titus read of day 1 and for most of the game was really based off the fact she was trying to use her role to make herself town. Most of my argument actually strived to "yes your cop, but you are scum cop" from "you are fake claiming"

titus was too consistent to be fake claiming cop but it showed by her play that she ran a scum agenda


That's the problem ika. I used that against you. When I was able to prove I was cop, you looked like the boy who cried wolf and it allowed me to position myself quite well as a backup plan.

Plus insane cop is very suggestive that I'm town. Scum insane cop is very rare.

I still don't get how you were obvtown while basically just pushing a case based on baggage. You happened to be right, but that part was lucky.

I generally try to make myself look town based on setup, but try not to force it. Forcing it leads to situations like the lynch Fin3 debacle.

I still did think you were a commie ika. :S
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Post Post #6404 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:20 pm

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In post 6391, Pirate Ika wrote:titus I am sorry if you felt that I was leaning too hard on you. :(


You never did push too hard on me. The situation was more frustrating than anything.
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Post Post #6405 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:23 pm

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In post 6394, Pirate Ika wrote:I am looking at the spreadsheet and wondering if all the scum nks had different flavours. that wld make sense and wld fit in with no midgame changes. cos I bet wis did all of the fascist nks being a ninja.

I'll shut up now and wait for the game to officially end.

In post 6395, Muffin wrote:
In post 6124, Muffin wrote:
In post 6121, Titus wrote:Pulverized most likely. It's the new one.

So you think they no-killed and/or were blocked 3 nights in a row?


So which was it, Titus? Unlucky shots?

I did indeed shoot ika on N2. PV on night 3. ika again on night 4.

Given the tracker being alive, I had to cop and shoot the same target on night 4 as to not show to elk that I was scum if he checked me.

Kills are PLAYER dependent not faction dependent. Given none of the scum teams changed their kills that much, it wasn't as obvious. If ika had actually flipped, then you would have seen pulverized sooner.
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Post Post #6406 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:24 pm

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Part of what helped me know what was going on is that, I knew a) kills were player dependent and b) I was immune to the Hippie kill.

When Bear said they thought I was an SK, I was suprised y'all didn't assume that she killed me + no healer given the amount of dead doctors in the graveyard.
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Post Post #6407 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:50 pm

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In post 6403, Titus wrote:

1) That's the problem ika. I used that against you. When I was able to prove I was cop, you looked like the boy who cried wolf and it allowed me to position myself quite well as a backup plan.

2) Plus insane cop is very suggestive that I'm town. Scum insane cop is very rare.

3) I still don't get how you were obvtown while basically just pushing a case based on baggage. You happened to be right, but that part was lucky.

4) I generally try to make myself look town based on setup, but try not to force it. Forcing it leads to situations like the lynch Fin3 debacle.

5) I still did think you were a commie ika. :S


1) But after you became proven cop i changed how i was viewing you. I saw you as scum!cop. If you look at blizzard who was scum!sane cop it can link to scum!insane cop. I will agre in hindsight it does look like a cry wolf game but I was technically right for wrong reasons then

2) again thats debatable, when we had the scum!sane cop flip, a lot goes out the window. Also when you start using your role to explain why you are town, you instantly lose cred against me. I was arguing that we could of won w/o your role and that you using your role to justify your survival is scummy as fuck.

3) the case was not entirly baggage as you think titus, while part of my case did come from past games (not so muhc baggage per say but things you do as scum), it was pushing the entire fact that you were using your role t0 justify your town status. Nobody in the end is town based on role (minus IC). that was my arguement.

4) i will semi agree here, that forcing setup can lead to the fin decidable but when it comes down to nit gritty, no amount of "town based on setup" can really save you from the basic scum hunting

5) well duh :P
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Post Post #6408 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:53 pm

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In post 6399, Muffin wrote:
In post 6397, Pirate Ika wrote:Truth be told, mollie was the one who would not let me throw out an obscure theory and that my reachout to you was trying to show you the transparency of my thoughts.


Yeah and I totally got that transparency. It was a good play on your part. A player who was more confident than me in his ability to scumhunt would have seen the light and not
second
third
fourth
fifth-guessed themself.


Well I couldn't of done it without mollie to keep me in check. One of my key weaknesses is that i almost always need a weird pet theory in theme games.

Like how i had ns be bus driver or self targeting tailor, my other idea was ank was final scum who was sk who had tough guy shots (could double nk). But mollie would not let me post cus it was critical for everyone else to solve it

Again: bit thanks to mollie for being there for me. I could of not survived the game if she was not there and probably would of aggroed the thread 20 times over.

But more post game
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Post Post #6409 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:22 pm

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1) Yeah but by that point, you totally looked like the boy who cried wolf. We do agree you were right for the wrong reason. I generally don't make the same mistake twice. So you assumed I would fake crumb after just being burned? Nope. It was easy enough to look like the actual cop because I was indeed a cop.

2) Show me another game where scum insane cop happened.

3) I didn't use my role to justify my status until today. I coasted on no one but you suspecting me. Totally different.

4) Absolutely disagree.
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Post Post #6410 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:46 pm

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Well, hate to be the bearer of bad news after my post just yesterday, but, uh, more bad news for my activity--
Today, one of my uncles died. I'm not emotionally compromised (basically the only thing I feel is sadness, but it's sadness for not feeling anything and not true sadness), and I'm not flying to Michigan for the funeral (I live in Washington), so I'm not gonna be V/LA in any definite terms, but, well, am not going to be posting the flip any time soon.
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Post Post #6411 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:39 pm

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Image
Titus is at L-1!

6-5
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Titus - 2 (Nobody Special, Pirate Ika)

Ankamius - 1 (Titus)

Not Voting - 2 (Muffin, Ankamius)
At deadline, Titus will be lynched.
It's 3 to lynch.

Titus
stares at the above, looking at it intensely.

Solemnly, she decides that it's all over. "A fair game."
And she respectfully tips her hat, bows out, and heads to the noose.

Well that's...kind-of anticlimactic.

I kind-of wish there was some sort of epic battle to be had, but there wasn't really that much of a shouting match. (Well, no more than normal.) That's just...it, really.

>Game called "Hilariously Unbalanced".
>Game got down to 5 players.
Epic fail, or epic win?

...Right. Me saying that probably means the game's over. Just a matter of
how
.


6-6
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Titus - 3 (Nobody Special, Pirate Ika, Titus)

Not Voting - 2 (Muffin, Ankamius)

Titus has been lynched.
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During the night, you may target a player; you will receive results in the form of "scum" or "town", but I cannot offer you any guarantee of accuracy. Aside from that, you possess nothing except your instinct and your intuition, along-side your ability to express your voice and to vote.
She was a cop, exactly as she said she was.

That doesn't look good.

It REALLY doesn't look good.

Especially since I just said the game was over, and you just lynched a cop.





...Then you realize the
insanity
behind Titus, and it all makes sense.

The good news is, you've lynched scum.


Titus
,
Dictator
Cop
,
Lynched Day 6
.

...What's the follow-through?


...The BETTER news is...well...


The Town
Wins!

Congratulations to
EddieFenix
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theelkspeaks
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DrippingGoofBall
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Bulbazak
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guille2015
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Pirate Ika
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Nobody Special
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shos
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Awesome
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Alchemist21
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Frightened inmate number3
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PeregrineV
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Ankamius
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farside22
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I'll deal with the official modding stuff (like releasing topics and whatnot) tomorrow.
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Post Post #6412 (ISO) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:42 pm

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In post 6394, Pirate Ika wrote:I am looking at the spreadsheet and wondering if all the scum nks had different flavours.
In fact they did.

And if you had asked, "MOD: do the scum NKs have different flavors?" I'd have told you, yes.
In fact, I thought I did at one point. :P
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Post Post #6413 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:13 am

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Yay :)
So I wasnt modkilled and turned to survivor then, for the pagetop €=

This game has been amazing, guys. Well played, everyone.
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Rule # 5h05: players should not attempt to use or manipulate the mod for any purpose.
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Post Post #6414 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:13 am

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And of coirse special thanks to mastina <3
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Post Post #6415 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:47 am

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gg

Thanks for the game, mastin.
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Post Post #6416 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:21 am

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Welp.

Back to another couple years before I get a game like this again.
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Post Post #6417 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:14 am

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I don't understand.... Titus, the last of her team, hammered herself? How is that playing to wincon in any way whatsoever...?
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Post Post #6418 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:17 am

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great game. Loved the setup and the mod Mastin! Cheers.

Also. I am quite impressed with titus. Did a pretty awesome job at this game, and great job for NS and PI who pulled through at the end, and when I say NS I do mean the very end.
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Post Post #6419 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:28 am

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jee jee
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Post Post #6420 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:59 am

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THIS SHOULD BE SCUMMIED
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Post Post #6421 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:05 am

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Yea!
Gg everyone
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Post Post #6422 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:15 am

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I hope it doesn't breach forum etiquette to say this was a great read :)
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Post Post #6423 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:30 am

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In post 6417, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I don't understand.... Titus, the last of her team, hammered herself? How is that playing to wincon in any way whatsoever...?


The game was over when I hammered. Plurality lynch. I wasn't getting three votes anywhere else.
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Post Post #6424 (ISO) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:14 am

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In post 6409, Titus wrote:1) Yeah but by that point, you totally looked like the boy who cried wolf. We do agree you were right for the wrong reason. I generally don't make the same mistake twice. So you assumed I would fake crumb after just being burned? Nope. It was easy enough to look like the actual cop because I was indeed a cop.

2) Show me another game where scum insane cop happened.

3) I didn't use my role to justify my status until today. I coasted on no one but you suspecting me. Totally different.

4) Absolutely disagree.


1) doesnt change the fact you were scum!cop nor that you more or less used your role to justify your town status

2) thats besides the point? you were scum!cop who had questionable sanity

3) i would say day one you largely used your "im a cop what do" as well as trying to avoid explaining nk and stuff it not all that diffrent

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