Open 891: Mafia's Den

[gob]

This wagon will probz die with me on it, if not then it's fine.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh fuck Taly is dangerous this game

[Gamma Emerald]

This game is gonna be tricky to navigate
Taly, dave and Dann seem rather untouchable rn

[Gamma Emerald]

oooooh big mistake Taly

[Gamma Emerald]

what was dave's opinion of shadow? If dave isn't vig he's vengeful so solving whether he can be the vig is important imo

[Gamma Emerald]

crescent's opening was

not great

[Gamma Emerald]

I think utilizing black vs. Alisae is a good call today

[Something_Smart]

Yeah I don't think we need to bus or gambit yet. Mostly just brainstorming potential ideas in case we decide they'd be helpful.

[gob]

watever happens, happens

[Something_Smart]

Also what stances did Crescent have coming into D2, I wanna know if I can fake a result believably D3

Oh yeah I totally forgot to say but Crescent claimed VT. That's kind of important lmao.

[Something_Smart]

If you were unaware of that, you can try to claim VT as though you didn't know your slot already claimed. Otherwise people could suspect that your scum partners caught you up.

[gob]

I was once a mafia boy... now I'm a mafia man.

[gob]

We should all be scumreading Taly, openly too. We need to make sure he is not protected at night.

Gamma, sorry but it looks like you may die here.

However, I think if we solidify you as the main fade, it could fall off late. However realistically we are kind of in a pickle.

1. People think I am weird and may night-check me. Especially with the replacements, the variable is just ever higher. I am not sure how exactly Goon shows up to a rolecop... if it shows me as VT then I can 100% go deep and win the game. If not then I get checked, solving me.

2. Something_Smart and Gamma have been scumread a lot by many people. If you guys want to turn the tides, we can, but we'll need to act now. Mis-fade today and tomorrow on the not-Vengeful.

So TL;DR
If the Goon role can be checked by rolecop... then you two should get bussed here, maybe in succession. I can go deep and win this game.
However if not, then we'll need to force a misfade today. Because I don't think fading Gamma will give Smart any sort of towncred, so they'll likely follow suit.

[Gamma Emerald]

we 100% kill davesaz here. I've had games lost because my partners didn't listen to me on obvious PR hints, please just listen
also, you do realize the rolecop is dead right?

[gob]

no i didn't.

I do agree davesaz is probably PR... i have been trying to gas up Dannflor indirectly especially with his read.

I think right now, you need to not scumread me or Smart too heavily. You are probably gonna die at some point soon, so you over-spew will look bad.

[Gamma Emerald]

I will try to avoid link you two too hard but I think if I play this right I can put one or both of you in a good position
or if I somehow outlast you two, I'll have a shiny gold star that should prevent me from being suspected

[Something_Smart]

we 100% kill davesaz here. I've had games lost because my partners didn't listen to me on obvious PR hints, please just listen

Yeah I'm down to kill him, he was my other potential target for N1.

[gob]

Okay, I think we aim for either Taly or Davesaz here.

I feel like Taly is super close to a solve, and they know it. We really can't let them live forever I think. There is also a non-zero chance they're PR.

Davesaz, I do agree with you and Gamma (RIP, we will avenge you) is probably PR here. However, I am not too worried about his PR.

He's either vengeful or Vigilante. He doesnt seem like the type of player to go out and blast mafia as vigi, so he's not that scary. If he's vengeful, we just need to not vote him off.

However if he is bodyguard, he's a problem and I can understand killing him here.

[Something_Smart]

Well that's not good.

If dave is the vig we don't want him shooting even if he shoots town, because the lim pool is gonna be real narrow real quick. I already don't really think we have a path to winning. We probably would want to give Taly some time and see if he second-guesses himself.

[gob]

Nah,

I think here we do this

Kill Taly or let them live and kill dave
mislim tomorrow
if forced we bus you here, but we can probably force another mislim too.

We could also do no-kill shenanigans or shenanigans with the setup.

[Something_Smart]

Something_Smart kills davesaz

We can change but I still prefer this, I trust Gamma's PR read and I independently had somewhat of a PR read as well, and if Taly manages to get his reads mixed up a little he could help distract from us.

[gob]

sounds good

[gob]

SHEESH

Smart and Gamma with the snipe

[gob]

FUCk tough scene.

We need to kill black/alisae, prob black, then 1v1 win against Alisae after Roden mislim today.

[gob]

Might be worth killing Alisae since there is no arguing with her most likely. I think Taly can be talked off a read.

Black could also randomly go somewhere else.

Gonna be tough but probably thats the path to go.