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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:52 am

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ok fred. youre on the chopping block. if youre town you should know for a fact that hessian is scum and should be doing everything you can to prove that. but instead i said im going for hessian and youre just coasting.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:24 pm

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In post 425, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ok fred. youre on the chopping block. if youre town you should know for a fact that hessian is scum and should be doing everything you can to prove that. but instead i said im going for hessian and youre just coasting.
Since I am town, I know for a fact that hessian is scum and do not need to hunt for evidence to prove it. Hence, I was just coasting. Although evidence was requested, the only thing that had made me think hessian is scum before Tayl0r Swift was confirmed town is the only evidence I have and was actually not much. Also, it wasn't my case.

ORAM's case

I perfectly understand if I end up executed since hessian did a good job as mafia and didn't leave much evidence I can find that implicates her. For intellectual honesty, the argument that hessian is scum because Trendall turned up dead after suspecting hessian is really just WIFOM and doesn't actually implicate hessian since, as hessian said, it can be argued and has been argued that I killed Trendall to implicate her.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:22 pm

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Votecount 4.6
hessian (1) - Fredrick A Campbell
Fredrick A Campbell (1) - hessian

Not Voting (1) -
Tayl0r Swift

With 3 players alive it takes 2 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 4 is in (expired on 2020-11-14 21:58:32).
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:38 pm

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yeah VOTE: hessian

sorry if im wrong here.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:42 pm

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In post 428, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yeah VOTE: hessian

sorry if im wrong here.
You were wrong. Sorry for the trickery, but it was part of the game.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:51 pm

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yeah it is. gg.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:54 pm

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Votecount 4.7 (Final)
hessian (2) - Fredrick A Campbell, Tayl0r Swift
Fredrick A Campbell (1) - hessian

With 3 players alive it takes 2 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 4 is in (expired on 2020-11-14 21:58:32).
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:56 pm

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Hessian, Town Vanilla, was eliminated day four.


Tayl0r Swift, Town Vanilla, was endgamed day four.



That means that the mafia team of Marky Mark and Fredrick A Campbell have won!
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:56 pm

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FWIW, taylor, several spectators ALSO guessed wrong.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:04 pm

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In post 433, Cabd wrote:FWIW, taylor, several spectators ALSO guessed wrong.
yeah i mean both were pretty scummy and i could see it going either way. but the balance of evidence suggested it was hessian. ive never seen fred play town so i cant really compare the meta, but while i cant townread scum!fred at all the scum vibes are just not really there. the tough part about this game was that so many people were scummy. and thats coming from me, someone who just has a scummy personality.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:27 pm

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In post 315, Satisfaction wrote:
You know how mad I will be at myself if scum!you wins after you explicitly claim like this? :dead:
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:29 pm

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I thought it was hessian from when I died until the end of the game lol I was wrong.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:37 pm

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Fun Fact: The kills I made was chosen by having random.org order all 8 integers randomly and associating a player with each name. I am not sure if the kills would have been random if Marky Mark survived on day 1 since I don't know who he thinks best to kill.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:42 pm

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Cool! I think that's illegal in some games but not in this one I guess, suppose it depends who the mod is or something?
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:43 pm

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In post 438, Trendall wrote:Cool! I think that's illegal in some games but not in this one I guess, suppose it depends who the mod is or something?
It's as simple as not admitting it if its against the rules of the game.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:44 pm

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And yeah, it is dependent on the mod. In the only game I have modded so far, I modified that rule so that you are allowed to say you used it, but you aren't allowed to prove it (using screenshots or taking a video of you flipping a coin).
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:47 pm

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Yea I remember seeing the rule worded like that before.
In post 439, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:It's as simple as not admitting it if its against the rules of the game.
Very important life principle here.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:51 pm

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In post 441, Trendall wrote:Yea I remember seeing the rule worded like that before.
In post 439, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:It's as simple as not admitting it if its against the rules of the game.
Very important life principle here.
Only applicable if it can't be proven. If it is possible you left evidence behind, at some point, you will be caught lying.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:52 pm

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PROVEN randomless is illegal.

But merely claiming you randed it is not.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:31 pm

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GG - that was an absolute nail-biter to watch towards the end. Well played everyone, and especially to Fred for managing to cling on by yourself to get us the win :)
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:40 pm

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Well, GG.

Was there a thread for spectators? If so, I'm curious to read it.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:45 pm

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In post 444, Marky Mark wrote:GG - that was an absolute nail-biter to watch towards the end. Well played everyone, and especially to Fred for managing to cling on by yourself to get us the win :)
I actually didn't think I would win and was mentally prepared to lose.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:05 pm

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Gg. For some reason I kept feeling like this game never really started. I’m not sure what I mean by that. My reads didn’t change really the entire game.

I should have tried harder to get people into club town!hessian.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:37 am

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I'm not gonna lie, the donki lolhammer did miff me a bit at the time :lol:
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:38 am

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I still think the elim on him was a poor choice because to just turn around 180 degrees, say 'fk it' and then hammer your own buddy would be a 200IQ scum play

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