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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:27 am

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In post 823, Trendall wrote:
In post 821, Luca Blight wrote:Cook is now confirmed scum.
Why are they 'confirmed'?
Try reading.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:28 am

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My thinking was actually that Cook was town but what I don't understand about their post is why they accounted for the fact that mafia could have no killed night one and said it didn't confirm Luca, but then didn't account for the exact same situation on the second night and seemed to think Tama was confirmed as town and wrote it in big bold letters. Am I missing something there?
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:28 am

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And now I'll vote him again

VOTE: Cook
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:28 am

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In post 825, Luca Blight wrote:Try reading.
Am I going to find 'confirmation' or am I going to find that like...you think your arguments are good?
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:28 am

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I'm really confused right now
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:30 am

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UNVOTE: cook
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:32 am

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I'm not sure if Trendall is being deliberately obtuse here or is just scum, but I'll say it again.

I CC Cook. I am the Doctor


I targeted Tama both nights, so they are Town.
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:33 am

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Yeah but what about that claim confirms Cook as mafia, what's the extra element that I'm missing? Because right now I just see two people who cc each other. And if they're confirmed then why did they claim into auto-elimination for themselves?
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:35 am

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To Luca, Cook is confirmed scum
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:36 am

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So why did Luca claim that they were confirmed generally?
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:36 am

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VOTE: Luca Blight
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:36 am

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Cook obviously didn't think I was the Doctor. He thought he might win a 1v1 against someone else.

It shouldn't be hard to see that I wouldn't CC this here as scum. That would be incredibly stupid.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:36 am

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I don't get what you mean.
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:37 am

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Ok, it seems my Cook/Trendall theory was correct after all. There's no way they're this obtuse.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:37 am

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In post 837, Polaris wrote:I don't get what you mean.
Talking about
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:38 am

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He said that Cook is 'confirmed' but Cook isn't 'confirmed' so he lied and I just eliminate liars. Dw no one's gonna agree with me it'll be Cook who gets eliminated today.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:39 am

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You mean when he called Cook confirmed scum? They're talking from their POV
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:41 am

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Yeah if that's what they were going for they could have said 'Cook is confirmed from my point of view' and then I'd eliminate them anyway for stating the obvious.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:42 am

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In post 841, Polaris wrote:You mean when he called Cook confirmed scum? They're talking from their POV
Yes, and it should be pretty obvious generally. It would be stupid to immediately CC that here as scum, it makes no sense.
In post 842, Trendall wrote:Yeah if that's what they were going for they could have said 'Cook is confirmed from my point of view' and then I'd eliminate them anyway for stating the obvious.
Keep clutching those straws.
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:45 am

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In post 843, Luca Blight wrote:It would be stupid to immediately CC that here as scum, it makes no sense.
What about a situation where it is setup B3, last night mafia rolecop identified the tracker. Today it wouldn't seem too stupid to me to sacrifice one mafia to make sure that the doctor gets eliminated now and the tracker gets killed tonight.

And also when people say things like that, you have to wonder why if it
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be so stupid to CC there, then why do mafia never employ that as a strategy? No one would suspect them.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:46 am

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I'm not really sure that Trendall and Cook are the exact team. What would be the point of Trendall defending Cook/going against Luca right now? It would just out them as the scum team and get rid of their chances of winning.
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:47 am

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I am by far the most TR player here, and even Cook's claim heavily supports me being Town as he 'targeted' me N1.

Why would I not just kill Cook and take the resulting towncred instead of dooming myself to being eliminated after he flips green?

It's nonsensical.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:47 am

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In post 844, Trendall wrote:
In post 843, Luca Blight wrote:It would be stupid to immediately CC that here as scum, it makes no sense.
What about a situation where it is setup B3, last night mafia rolecop identified the tracker. Today it wouldn't seem too stupid to me to sacrifice one mafia to make sure that the doctor gets eliminated now and the tracker gets killed tonight.

And also when people say things like that, you have to wonder why if it
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be so stupid to CC there, then why do mafia never employ that as a strategy? No one would suspect them.
Would you want the tracker to claim?
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:50 am

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In post 845, Polaris wrote:I'm not really sure that Trendall and Cook are the exact team. What would be the point of Trendall defending Cook/going against Luca right now? It would just out them as the scum team and get rid of their chances of winning.
Because they aren't winning anyway if Cook is eliminated here, and I had already associated them as scum.

If he got me eliminated first, then perhaps in MeLo Trendall could manage to get someone like Fred eliminated instead.
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:50 am

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Apparently a lot of people are of the opinion that I'm the type of person who if they drew mafia, their strategy would just be to sit and try and convince the town really blatantly that their partner is town. Which is a fair assumption but happens to not be right. Like this always happens, 'Trendall's defending this guy so they both must be partners together'.

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