Newbie 2048 | Game Over

[MiniMegabyte]

Emp being cleared is a big coup though, I can't help but feel Mini-scum would have ultimately been better served just claiming VT yesterday instead of running this gambit. But I guess there's a temptation in column C to claim the only PR which can't be countered or proven.

I tracked someone who was scum read by everyone as that’s the logical thing to do.

[RLotus]

you mean emp

[MiniMegabyte]

I know it’s hard but trust me on this one I really am tracker

what gets me is, you didnt indicate any surprise that you even got a result last night? In what universe doesnt a mafia RB block you here? Heck, in what universe don't you eat an NK?

I don’t know and to be honest I was afraid mafia would do that tonight I don’t know if mafia has multitasking or not I have no idea why I wasn’t roleblocked that’s not a question I can answer

[Battle Mage]

i think mafia has multi-tasking and any mafia RB would know that, so you always get RBed here if your claim is true, but you're just a mafia goon in column C.

could ask Mod to confirm in thread!

[RLotus]

is the mod allowed to answer whether mafia can multitask or not?

[RLotus]

could ask Mod to confirm in thread!

well she did haha

[Rockhopper]

In the wiki under normal games

Mafia must specify which member is performing the factional kill each night. A mafia member may not both kill and use a power role in the same night by default.

Mini could be telling the truth if RLotus thought he couldn't multitask so I disagree with 1136

[RLotus]

the things that make me unsure are the fact that it totally makes sense that she tracked me from the dialogue between BM and Mini at the end of day 1

seems really strange that binatog tried to fake claim after mini softed, and when I say softed she laid it on pretty thick

and if bina missed that she was softing, why would he back down to BM so easily in the 1 PR setup

I also kind of had it in my head when I saw Maduisha die that BM's play was to push Mini, because emp, maduisha, and I had all expressed that we thought BM was mafia and if we are all alive it will be hard for you. This way, BM can bring Rock and I to final, and Rock has been very adamant about BM town.

[Rockhopper]

you mean emp

BM because scum!him roleblocks 100% of the time

[RLotus]

you mean emp

BM because scum!him roleblocks 100% of the time

if he rbs then it is a lot easier to think mini is telling the truth, I'm not sure it's 100%

[RLotus]

It's virtually auto for me at this point, but rock thinking BM is confirmed comfirms my paranoia about a me + Rock + BM final three.

VOTE: BM

[Rockhopper]

VOTE: RLotus

[RLotus]

bro what is your fixation with me this game

[Rockhopper]

Nevermind. Not NKing Mini last night makes no sense for scum!you too.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

[RLotus]

Eh whatever, one of the reasons I backed off of her yesterday is because I thought her being PR explained her play on day 1, but i realize the last game I played with her she was or and was nothing like that, she’s probably just scum
VOTE: Mini

[Binatog13]

Bah!

[RLotus]

ggs

[Rockhopper]

Spoiler:

I'm going to give my full reads, because I am pretty happy with my conclusion.

BM- pretty obvious town, I don't think I need to go into detail

Rockhopper- I believe I see what BM and ben saw, I don't know if I would say I "know" he is town, but I will have faith in their read.

Emperor - I know this will be my most controversial read, but I strongly believe he is town at this point. My main argument as to why is the wagon that formed on him. BM, Binatog, Mini, and Enchant voted on him, and then Maduisha claimed intent to hammer. The people not on the wagon were me (who I know is town, Ben (who flipped town), and Rock(who BM "knows" is town. So, from my perspective, either his partner must have voted on him or both of the mafia voted on him. Or, we are wrong about rock. Now, I understand how you can put me and him as the team, but obviously I know this isn't true. To me, the most likely conclusion is both mafia voted on him.

Maduisha- I've unfortunately come around to her being town. Firstly, the way she openly is admitting to sheeping BM seems too blunt for a mafia to do. And, even though she is voting with BM, she does have opposing opinions to him at times, which shows she is still trying to solve the game and it implies that she isn't trying to push an agenda. Furthermore, she has stated the same read on me for same/similar reasons, which is something I do when I really believe in my read, so I am inclined to believe her read on me is genuine.

Mini- I strongly believe this slot is mafia. The way she has formed her reads are directly in reaction to the opinion's of BM. I had a hunch somoething like this was going on yesterday, but after looking through the thread Mini seems the most obviously doing it to me. When BM tunneled Emperor, Mini jumped on him as well. When BM tunneled enchant, Mini jumped along. When BM put suspicion on Binatog and then reverted it into believing he is town, Mini suspiciously also came to the conclusion that he is town.

Binatog- I believe this is Mini's most likely partner. I read through Binatog's last game and it is strikingly familiar the way he acts around Mini as he did to his mason partner that game. On post 272 (not sure how to link sorry) he implies in a round about way that Mini is town by asking about Mini's reads on myself and Maduisha. He then goes on to sheep Mini's supposed reads on post 301. I think he misunderstood what Mini's reads actually were, because he puts both myself and Maduisha scum. This is strange in it of itself because I don't understand how from a town perspective you don't see the dichotomy between myself and Maduisha.

TLDR: I think the team is Mini and Binatog

nice

[Emperor flippyNips]

VOTE: mini

Nail in the coffin

[Battle Mage]

In the wiki under normal games

Mafia must specify which member is performing the factional kill each night. A mafia member may not both kill and use a power role in the same night by default.

Mini could be telling the truth if RLotus thought he couldn't multitask so I disagree with 1136

I think RLotus, as a Mafia RB, is smart enough to ask if he is multi-tasking. Hell, even if he wasn't smart enough, there's a good chance he finds out by accident/the Mod voluntarily tells him in the PT.

[Battle Mage]

eh, i just saw we won already

[Battle Mage]

yeah so I was defo right about massclaiming yesterday. No PRs, just 2 fakeclaiming scum.

[Battle Mage]

the things that make me unsure are the fact that it totally makes sense that she tracked me from the dialogue between BM and Mini at the end of day 1

seems really strange that binatog tried to fake claim after mini softed, and when I say softed she laid it on pretty thick

and if bina missed that she was softing, why would he back down to BM so easily in the 1 PR setup

I also kind of had it in my head when I saw Maduisha die that BM's play was to push Mini, because emp, maduisha, and I had all expressed that we thought BM was mafia and if we are all alive it will be hard for you. This way, BM can bring Rock and I to final, and Rock has been very adamant about BM town.

Like I said dude, you made the right observation. the perfect observation. Binatog floundered on the claim when Mini wasn't around.

We both had paranoia about each other this game though, it's all good.

Mini claiming a clear on Emp was good news for town, although I don't feel like she was ever winning after Binatog flipped. The tracker crumbs didn't make sense, which is why I was so keen to force a massclaim (so I could actually say candidly why I didn't buy it).

[Battle Mage]

you mean emp

BM because scum!him roleblocks 100% of the time

if he rbs then it is a lot easier to think mini is telling the truth, I'm not sure it's 100%

ftr, yes it's 100%. Only an idiot wouldn't RB the tracker in that slot - suicidal strategy when you need 2 mislims to win.

[Battle Mage]

well great game! we got there in the end! Was definitely fun