In post 992, Val89 wrote:You realise the self-vote is the important part of making sure you don't get to ELO, right?
Without it, it's reads very much like you are trying to pick up towncred off the back of me doing my best to get out of the way of the ELO without actually following through on it.
I think StrangeMatter is just messing with us, and game ends here; but if not, I've treated this as if its ELO today, and I realise I've just handed you the game. 75% was a confident as I thought as I was going to get.
If its not, I'll just conceed the game tomorrow and let Leaven vote me; you deserve the win.
I actually believe StrangeMatter is just messing with our head here. If they are town, they actually believe I am scum and basically just outted myself as such so "Good luck in ELO, you will need it" sounds hollow as hell.
You trying to use twilight to shade my slot already seems like you know he might well flip town. I'm being serious; I've played the percentages and if I am wrong, then I am wrong and you win, Ythan. I'm not intending on offering a defense tomorrow, but I think game ends here anyway.
I think Leaven would vote me over you, if the game didn't end, particulary after hammering SM.
I've been saying you are town based on assocatives with Gamma, also. I play this game to have fun, and I can't think of anything I would rather do less than spend tomorrow arguing with you. I have my fingers crossed SM is just having their bit of fun right now.
✧･ﾟ: *☾ It is now Night 3 (◡‿◡✿) ༓･ﾟ:*‧͙⁺˚
Rest up and get ready for another day!
Don't forget to submit your night actions via PM or factional private topic.
I must receive a private message (or a post in a factional PT) that every living player wants a fast night. Upon receiving that we can move onto day 4 immediately. Otherwise day 4 will come after the deadline as above.
in the end, Val, I feel like you were never genuinely curious about my alignment when you were pushing me, it felt like you were just trying to assemble all the scummy pieces of my play to push me regardless of what I said. on the other hand, I feel like ythan has felt overall a little more curious when it comes to his reads, I'm just thinking about how much his reads wavered of you and me and how he seemed genuinely interested in the different sides of our 1v1. I also feel like ythan has done less direct "setting up" of this day phase. whereas your posting around your self-vote and the Leaven NK seem to point towards you trying to make as favorable a situation for yourself come this phase.
I also think it's ultimately more likely that Gamma's partner is someone he basically never directly interacted with except for vague support than someone he had as his main suspect for most of the game. especially since the other scum is the roleblocker. i guess you started the game voting ClarkBar but then you never interacted with that slot afterwards.
I could very well be wrong, this is really hard and I feel like you're both hard slots to read. apologies if I am wrong but I don't think I'm gonna get any further by thinking on this more.
