In post 1257, UnFoytunate wrote:I'll be honest, this will likely end up a Takemikazuchi vs froggodoggo Day 4.
Elim Sara and kill BBT?
Ohhhh shit, hold on. We need time.
At the time, this caught my attention but not enough to make me think UnFoy was scum. I used it as a plot to keep myself alive in the even Sara was town and Take was scum.
Now, given the information I have, it's clear that UnFoy turned on Sara as soon as she started scum reading him.
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In post 1477, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:He ignored the question to show evidence of Wiz being calm under pressure from me but flailing under other people.
Not the wording I used in the slightest so that is disingenuous but:
His first list, the coloured one. Scum reading for trying to weaken a wagon only? Yet he uses a neutral for Prismo, yet not what should have most likely been BBT or Alex? I also find the RR/froggodoggo weird in retrospect, outside of me tunnelling both very temporarily in Day 1.
You're saying he reacts differently to me than to other people.
Prove it.
This is only a minor thing in the grand scheme of all of my questions and you're really struggling.
I got a scum read, for focusing on Wiz by Wiz, you got a town read despite in your eyes "being the driving force" (paraphrase) behind the wagon. Your first push on Wiz garnered a 'no'. You didn't find that weird at the time? You certainly didn't comment on how weird it was that you pushed and only got hit with a "no".
You're saying he reacts differently to me than to other people.
Prove it.
This is only a minor thing in the grand scheme of all of my questions and you're really struggling.
I got a scum read, for focusing on Wiz by Wiz, you got a town read despite in your eyes "being the driving force" (paraphrase) behind the wagon. Your first push on Wiz garnered a 'no'. You didn't find that weird at the time? You certainly didn't comment on how weird it was that you pushed and only got hit with a "no".
This doesn't answer what I just asked you.
Wiz was scum reading me on D1, I have shown this multiple times. So what you just said was false.
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In post 357, wizardastronaut wrote:
BBT - Third in the wagon. Somewhere in the wiki I read that scum like to be third. And they were suspiciously eager to push us off the Sara wagon. They never explained why. (They explained why I should back off, but not why you should.) So I don't understand where they were coming from.
In post 382, wizardastronaut wrote:A) You were weirdly eager to get people to move off of Sara.
B) It's hard to exactly explain, but to me your scum read on Prismo feels different than how you've been reading other people's behavior. Jumping on them third after Alex declared them to be our miselim target for today I think could very easily be a scum who's eager to move the game along and get out someone who is town.
C) Y'all are providing too much town credit to BBT for a little bit of early aggression
In post 782, wizardastronaut wrote:I don't reach the same conclusions as RR, but do like the direction it is leading none-the-less. I think that furtive has been the more obvious elimination for a while now so if furtive = town, RR = mafia its not
that
hard to imagine that BBT or Sara (or UnFoy?) were mafia who were comfortable waiting it out and making town do the miselim. (How BBT's new intent factors into this I need to ponder.) But I suppose I can buy that UnFoy, Froggo, Alex, Rat are the more likely partners with RR on this world. (Maybe not UnFoy? I'm not entirely sure where to place UnFoy in this reasoning.)
If furtive = mafia, RR = town I still think furtive's partner has nerves of steel for not joining with me earlier. (And would be near incomprehensible if they are someone currently voting furtive and still didn't flop with RR finally making E-1.) I guess Sara would be the most likely partner? And they did hint at liking the froggo/Rr scum-pair a while before actually acting it, only doing so once BBT did. I had been pondering what BBT/furtive world might look like one they hopped over (they were also the first to unvote furtive) but BBT's recent declaration of intent messes with that. (Though I suppose they could have been trying to give their furtive partner one last chance and now given up since nobody no the furtive wagon has given any indication of considering changing.)
Wiz shading me plenty on D1, so the D2 scum read wasn't from nowhere. He was clearly keeping it there ready for if he needed it.
PEdit - Right, I stayed on Wiz for a long time and was actively pushing that as the counter. D1 lasted too long and it was clear it needed to end, so I switched votes and hammered Furtive. I believe I even said at the time that I didn't expect a red flip?
Already did it.
You're not reading very closely for what is a crucial part of the game.
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