Newbie 2117 | Postgame

[Black]

Normally, when I'm the most suspected player, I don't even try to defend myself. The fact I'm town would just be the starting point from which I would give all my thoughts. I'd let my flip validate all of my past words.

But annoyingly, Black waited until Elo to start pushing me, so even that's not an option.

If you're town and it's Delta/mala here...then you not defending yourself can just be added on to the pile of why we lost this game. I'm not criticizing you for not playing everyday, but you barely played at all. You signed up for the game and put it in the back back back burner. I can't properly read someone that refuses to play, so if I'm reading this situation wrong then it can't possibly be all my fault

[Black]

VOTE: mala

[Black]

I think you guys would've won if you killed Andante and tried to paint Delta as the mala partner

[Black]

With the right argument I probably would have gone back in my Delta tunnel

[Andante]

Hey delta, for tomorrow, I might think about Black being scum... could be blue, but I've been starting to suspect black, especially with all this fencesitting here

[Andante]

cause I'm no longer sold that a blu+mala team go for a claim like this...

[Andante]

the way black is playing seems to fit...

[Black]

There is no fence sitting going on

I've been wanting to lim mala for like a week now

[Black]

If you're referring to me keeping the options open and considering all angles then yeah, I'm guilty, but that's just me trying to work on my flawed town game. I'm trying to fix the problem I have where I tunnel too much

[Black]

If I'm scum with mala then why would I flip on Delta? I could've just pushed that even harder after the end of D2 and Blue would've just tagged along

Yeah this is WIFOM but if you think about it, scum!Black doesn't make sense here

[Andante]

why would I flip on Delta?

cause I've been deadset on blue, and you've been waiting for me to vote blue here... like from the start you've been "yeah andante I believe you!!!" but then what, you wait for your sr blue to vote mala for you to vote your partner??

[Andante]

cause you literally just sheeped your SR.. so it's like, what have you been waiting for all day?

[Andante]

I thought you were waiting for Delta, to see if he was ready to end day...

[Andante]

but no, the second blue votes mala, you're like "ok, I vote too!!"

[Andante]

@Delta, not that my reads mean much, but I'm pretty sold on it being Black here

[furtiveglance]

Sorry for the delay everyone.

3.02

Votecount 3.02 (Final)

Malakittens (3):

Andante, BlueSnakelet, Black.

[HAMMER]

Andante (1):

Malakittens.

Not Voting (1):

Deltabreedy.

With 5 alive, 3 to eliminate.

Day 3 is over.

Malakittens has been eliminated, and was

Spoiler:

Mafia Rolecop

Night 3 starts now and ends in (expired on 2023-04-14 17:47:11), send me any night actions.

[furtiveglance]

Sorry for the delay.

Andante died last night, she was

Spoiler:

Town Friendly Neighbour.

3 alive, 2 to eliminate.

Not voting (3): BlueSnakelet, Deltabreedy, Black.

Deadline: (expired on 2023-04-22 04:58:17)

I'll make this neater at some point.

[BlueSnakelet]

Delta tunneled me the whole game.

If Black had supported him before Elo, and managed to get me eliminated, she would be suspected because of it. Scum do usually jump onto miselimination wagons.

But as soon as Elo came along, this wasn't a problem anymore. If she supported my wagon and got me eliminated, that would be an instant win.

So she immediately swiched from townreading to scumreading me. Delta still showed intent on eliminating me, so she knew that bringing both of us to the final 3 was a sure way to win the game.

VOTE: Black

@Delta, if there is there is anything I can do to convince you not to vote for me, please tell me.

[Black]

Blue, it's obvious you're scum here because a townie wouldn't vote out the gate in 3p ELO. That's like rule number one in this scenario. You never vote here unless you're 100% and there's absolutely no way you would be that sure it's me here if you were town. Especially after scumreading Delta for like the whole game. And you didn't start scumreading me until D3 when it was convenient for you to do so

You voting ensures a Delta win if you are wrong and there's just no way a townie makes this move. I was already convinced it was you yesterday and this just seals the deal

Delta wins if he's scum, so there's no point holstering my vote now

VOTE: Blue

[Black]

So she immediately swiched from townreading to scumreading me. Delta still showed intent on eliminating me, so she knew that bringing both of us to the final 3 was a sure way to win the game.

It wasn't even immediate. It was gradual actually and it started on N2 after the whole mala/Delta kawaii vote. I forced myself to look at the game outside of my Delta/mala tunnel because it didn't make any sense for Delta to practically beg me to lim mala first if they were scum together. Then you were quiet af D3 and Delta was around to solve. It became pretty obvious to me at that point that we were working with a Blue/mala team

[Black]

Can either of you answer why scum!me would go from screaming at the top of my lungs that it's Delta/mala at the end of D2 to thinking it's Blue on D3? What do I gain from that? Why wouldn't I just stick with my Delta/mala theory since Blue SR BOTH of them?

Not trying to use wifom but I think it's important to consider this question

[Black]

Also I want to respond to Andante's accusations because I rolled my eyes when she used her last breath to change her whole solve

[Black]

why would I flip on Delta?

cause I've been deadset on blue, and you've been waiting for me to vote blue here... like from the start you've been "yeah andante I believe you!!!" but then what, you wait for your sr blue to vote mala for you to vote your partner??

I was never waiting for Andante to vote Blue and I said multiple times yesterday that mala was the lim

cause you literally just sheeped your SR.. so it's like, what have you been waiting for all day?

I didn't sheep Blue lol. I voted for Blue's partner, the person who I said I was gonna vote for the entire day

I thought you were waiting for Delta, to see if he was ready to end day...

I did. I said I would wait until morning to vote to see if Delta/Blue had any objections. Delta got the chance to talk and didn't object, and blue voted for mala. And at that point blue wasn't contributing anything so it was pretty clear to me what the solve was. I didn't think we needed any more time to discuss. And with how Blue came into 3p ELO with an ill-advised vote, it looks like I was right

[BlueSnakelet]

Can either of you answer why scum!me would go from screaming at the top of my lungs that it's Delta/mala at the end of D2 to thinking it's Blue on D3? What do I gain from that? Why wouldn't I just stick with my Delta/mala theory since Blue SR BOTH of them?

Not trying to use wifom but I think it's important to consider this question

For scum to win, they only have to reach Elo with one townie that will definitively vote for another.

I have been flippy-floppy on my Delta read, and was, by your admission, hard to read. There was no guarantee that I would retain my scumread in the moment it matters.

Delta, on the other hand, has been hardtunneling me for most of the game. As long you can fuel that, you can be pretty certain he will vote with you.

[Black]

Delta, I know it's going to take you getting over a mental hurdle to trust me and vote Blue here. But if you are able to do it then we win this game together

I'll be popping in to answer any questions you have that'll make this decision easier for you

Ninja'd: will look at that separately