Newbie 2125 - Postgame

[Alianna]

4.01

Votecount 4.01

Bazuf (E-1): JasonWazza
JasonWazza (E-1): Bazuf

Not Voting (1): ChicagoTypewriter

With 3 players alive, it takes 2 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-07-12 13:41:52).

[ChicagoTypewriter]

Okay, in lieu of anyone updating, I shall now cast my vote as it lies.

JasonWazza, your early game was commendably townie, however, let us face the facts - your behavior in Day 3 and Day 4 weren't. It's not that your posts don't make sense, it's that you seem to flip flop positions on a consistent basis with little justification for the switches. You scum-read me hard all of Day 3 with little justification, fought the mason on it, and after seeing that Bazuf wasn't going to scum read me, you pulled a 180 on Day 4 and tried to rush him. On top of that, you claim that this helps my position - it does not. The game is locked right now to a tug of war.

Bazuf, for his part, had easier ways of scum victory if he was scum. He might have chosen this one, but if he did with good ol' WIFOM logic I'm not going to try and guess that.

Ultimately, for me anyway, what it comes down to is just a reading of the current gamestate, and like I stated earlier, JasonWazza - I just don't find you town right now.

Once more, I shall cry

alea iacta est

!

VOTE: JasonWazza

[Alianna]

4.FINAL

Votecount 4.FINAL

JasonWazza (ELIMINATED): Bazuf, ChicagoTypewriter
Bazuf (1): JasonWazza

With 3 players alive, it took 2 votes to secure an elimination.

[Alianna]

JasonWazza has been eliminated. They were a

Mafia Goon

.

All threats to the town have been eliminated, meaning the game ends in a town victory. Congratulations to Bazuf, KatyKimFanClub, SzmarzLeek, camelCasedSnivy, ChicagoTypewriter, Deltabreedy, and BBmolla for winning Newbie 2125!

[Alianna]

Roles

iamveryhappy (formerly DragonEater70) -

Mafia Roleblocker

Bazuf -

Vanilla Townie

KatyKimFanClub -

Vanilla Townie

SzmarzLeek -

Town Mason

camelCasedSnivy -

Vanilla Townie

ChicagoTypewriter -

Vanilla Townie

JasonWazza (formerly Egix96) -

Mafia Goon

Deltabreedy -

Vanilla Townie

BBmolla -

Town Mason

Night 1 Actions

iamveryhappy roleblocks BBmolla.
JasonWazza kills Deltabreedy.

Night 1 Results

Deltabreedy dies.

Night 2 Actions

JasonWazza kills BBmolla.

Night 2 Results

BBmolla dies.

Night 3 Actions

JasonWazza kills SzmarzLeek.

Night 3 Results

SzmarzLeek dies.

[Alianna]

Private Topics

Mafia PT
Mason PT
Spectator PT
Mod PT

If you had a Notes PT this game, it is up to you whether you would like to release it and you have the moderator powers to do it yourself.

[Alianna]

This thread is now open for postgame discussion. Thanks for playing, everyone!

[BBmolla]

Yay!

Good game all.

[ChicagoTypewriter]

Thanks for covering for me, BB! Bazuf might have gone after me without your backing.

[camelCasedSnivy]

gg yall

[BBmolla]

Thanks for covering for me, BB! Bazuf might have gone after me without your backing.

Thank Leek, they were much more confident in your townness

[KatyKimFanClub]

Wow. Great job. I was a trainwreck this game but I think I learned a lot from it?

[KatyKimFanClub]

Thanks for putting up with me fellow town members and well played Jason. You convinced me!

[SzmarzLeek]

Outstanding game everyone!

[SzmarzLeek]

Is it me, or this game seems short but it feels like it was on a very high level? In Newbie standards of course.

[SzmarzLeek]

Jason, I was more confident about you when you accused me of lying about BB. Why the heck do that?

It felt like some frustration has shown, that you were playing a perfect game and first flaw occurred.

[SzmarzLeek]

Anyway, it was a brave game, being the most active person.

In the end, power of good won and BB won.

[SzmarzLeek]

Chicago, you were perfect! Loved your sarcastic remarks and your usage of English. I'm not a native speaker, but the class shows itself. Chapeau bas.

[JasonWazza]

Rant i had pre-typed for after this game;

This is why i think Mason's are a terrible thing in this setup, if you don't randomly hit the Mason's D1/N1 you have to have bussed your partner enough on D1 to be ruled out of the associative's game, but not enough to have actually moved a lim through on them.

And the above is why A3 specifically has such a god awful win rate compared to C3, it's so much harder to remove that associative when the Roleblocker is a possible casualty and you basically just freely give up A2/A1 if a lim goes through.

You can't really ever play A like there are mason's, and that means that you have to play way too safe in general, frankly i played way too aggressive with the possible lim of my VIP partner, and that's why we will win this game (most likely) but that shouldn't be a requirement to have a decent chance to win in this cell.

I think Mason's is just a bad addition to D3 as a rule of thumb.

[Deltabreedy]

Jason you had me completely fooled and pulled me off your partner D1.

You absolute beaut well played.

[JasonWazza]

I don't know how to type in this post game without sounding incredibly salty, so I think I might just keep my opinions to myself.

[JasonWazza]

Jason you had me completely fooled and pulled me off your partner D1.

You absolute beaut well played.

Oh i had thought that there was no chance, and was fully planning on bussing fully, and shooting you thinking that you were playing more conservative (you felt like you were avoiding fights a bit more then normal) because you were a PR

[Deltabreedy]

Yeah I saw that in the Maf PT just now - had you shot BB that could really have worked, just an unfortunate coin toss.

[JasonWazza]

The issue is you can't play around Mason's, and they ruin the fucking game if you don't get rid of them before D2.

[Deltabreedy]

I do think there should be a modifier that has a different PR maybe for A3 - what's the roleblocker supposed to do?