idk i just ghosted and hoped that everyone would forget about meIn post 2198, RadiantCowbells wrote: Someone's gotta explain to me how you all didn't lim T3
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:44 am
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not flake/lurk and get townread betterIn post 2202, ChicagoTypewriter wrote: Was there something better for me to do here?
then again, that's pretty rich coming from me-
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:01 am
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Yes >.>In post 2189, Random Nurse wrote: Two major points. No, three.
1) It should've been a clue when I jailed Medeia Night 1 and there was no NK Night 1. Next time try to keep these details in mind.
2) Skitter was heavily pocketed by Medeia. You all should have been questioning more why she kept staying alive. Also, Skitter, the player you Townread the most end-game is most likely Scum, and they've worked hard to get there.
3) Medeia was very good this game. I should have pushed harder Days 1 and 2: I was right to be Scumhunting her.ShowHiatus once more.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:02 am
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I got there and then thought peta was forcing a me/pooky cross and got distractedIn post 2198, RadiantCowbells wrote: Someone's gotta explain to me how you all didn't lim T3
I won't comment on Medeia because I was spoiled for that one but especially after the CT replacement, like, how is T3 not orders of magnitude more likely to flip wolf than any other player in the gameShowHiatus once more.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:03 am
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Ignore all of my/our blithering in elo and just say who you thought was scum, ans whyIn post 2202, ChicagoTypewriter wrote: So ... like I went after T3 pretty hard on Day 1 and Day 2; Day 3 I tried to look at medeia, but everyone ignored me and there was too many posts for me to run analysis on, so I kind of ignored the game for a while.
Was there something better for me to do here?ShowHiatus once more.
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:36 am
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:59 am
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:54 pm
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In post 2208, skitter30 wrote: Pts?
hm, since invisibility hasn't posted sitewide in a week,
here are quoted versions of mafia pt and my notes pt
i would still be quite interested in reading the dead pt
mafia pt:
Spoiler:pregame
In post 0, Invisibility wrote:Mafia PT
Welcome T3, a, and medeia, aMafia Goon! You may discuss whatever you wish with your partner in this thread at any time. You should also submit night actions through this thread.Mafia Odd-Night RolecopPlease assume that all contents of this thread will be made public without redaction when the game ends.
day 1
In post 6, medeia wrote: i am not entirely sure how to best use the scum pt (well outside of coordinating night actions/discussing potential prs things like that) but if there're any angles you think i should take or anything you would like to discuss or would like help with or any ideas you have or things you would like to try and such, anything really, i am hereIn post 8, medeia wrote: spent some time thinking about potential claims last night in case it becomes necessary
i think if you end up having to claim and want to claim a pr maybe the best bets here would be like
maybe a gated neapolitan or vanilla cop
and the gate could be one-shot or odd-night, one-shot maybe slightly better
though i do not know how you would usually go about claiming such things, could just claim gated also, however you would do so as town i think
it gives lots of options with claiming results tomorrow (can claim based results from my check, or if we pr read someone specific you can claim a vanilla result to check, lots of options) and investigative good to claim because most likely players to simply hammer would be investigative themselves, i would guess there are probably two full town prs in the game since we have like 2/3 of a pr but i am not really an expert on normal design
otherwise vanilla town is also safe of course, safer really
or simply whatever you think is best in terms of gained value or likelihood of survival
will spend more time today thinking about what our current knowledge likely indicates about the setup but that's my thinking at this timeIn post 10, medeia wrote:or even full neapolitan
i don't know
think that would probably be most likely in a neighbour game i guess?
dunnodunnodunnoIn post 11, medeia wrote: okay so upon further reflection
the problem with any sort of one-shot or odd-night or full neapolitan sort of claim
is that you would probably have to claim no result tomorrow as if you were roleblocked because otherwise there isn't really a reason you would be alive
since neapolitan guilties both mafias
even with vanilla cop likely only guiltying one mafia it's still kinda ??? that you'd be alive so might have to claim no result there as well
maybe better to claim even-night neapolitan? because built-in reasoning for thisIn post 12, medeia wrote: but anyway should only claim as last resort much better for us if we don't have to claim today
leaves us a lot more options in the future
and you have a good amount of latitude here to work with
you've done very well with posts appealing to kcdaspot and random nurse, and don't necessarily have to win over the others just need to be eclipsed as 'most likely' by 1-2In post 13, medeia wrote: i don't know, sorry if i am posting too much here maybe better for me not to to limit potential perspective issues and suchIn post 14, medeia wrote:In post 15, T3 wrote:
I was thinking something along the lines of 1-shot watcher or jailkeeper but even night neapolitan works. I just worry that if I claim even night then I’ll be limmed. Last game I claimed a N3 Vig role and had to walk it back to Odd Night Vig when it was clear I would be limmed.In post 8, medeia wrote: spent some time thinking about potential claims last night in case it becomes necessary
i think if you end up having to claim and want to claim a pr maybe the best bets here would be like
maybe a gated neapolitan or vanilla cop
and the gate could be one-shot or odd-night, one-shot maybe slightly better
though i do not know how you would usually go about claiming such things, could just claim gated also, however you would do so as town i think
it gives lots of options with claiming results tomorrow (can claim based results from my check, or if we pr read someone specific you can claim a vanilla result to check, lots of options) and investigative good to claim because most likely players to simply hammer would be investigative themselves, i would guess there are probably two full town prs in the game since we have like 2/3 of a pr but i am not really an expert on normal design
otherwise vanilla town is also safe of course, safer really
or simply whatever you think is best in terms of gained value or likelihood of survival
will spend more time today thinking about what our current knowledge likely indicates about the setup but that's my thinking at this timeIn post 16, medeia wrote:In post 15, T3 wrote: I was thinking something along the lines of 1-shot watcher or jailkeeper but even night neapolitan works. I just worry that if I claim even night then I’ll be limmed. Last game I claimed a N3 Vig role and had to walk it back to Odd Night Vig when it was clear I would be limmed.
let's see
like i said above whatever you think is best in terms of gained value or likelihood of survival is okay with me
if you are eliminated the main worry here is my being locked out of the game by prs, so the gained value would generally be in the form of likely pr targets especially investigatives if there are any, so if you claim a hard investigative and are counterclaimed, or if you claim and then someone hammers without saying anything or someone on the wagon starts encouraging whoever to hammer, that sort of thing
do you have any pr reads right now?
of course simply surviving the day also very beneficial and that's where the claims like 1-shot watcher would come into play, claims that might fit into a lot of different setups, maybe a non-consecutive night protective or something, just buying a day and worrying about it tomorrow is fine and good, same reason quick hammering any town at e-1 is good as scum
or claiming something (perhaps something outlandish) and then being like 'i just wanted to claim something because i always get eliminated when i claim vanilla town' if you feel like you are still potentially going to be eliminated is always an option, or even just claiming like 'i always get eliminated when i claim vanilla town so i am a jailkeeper', however you would express that sort of thing,
simply claiming vanilla town hoping for 'would scum claim vanilla town here?' sort of logic from others is also an option but i feel like towns often just eliminate players who do this, it narrows the poe and such
even-night or night 2 claims are pretty greedy in terms of trying to buy two days
part of why i like them is because you can also then be like
'haha scums i am actually one-shot!' at the start of tomorrow if desired
like claiming even-night tracker day 1
then! if we get a pr result on someone with the rolecop claiming you tracked that player to the nightkill at start of day 2
like aha scums, vote: x, x visited {nightkill} last night and should claim,
push for claim and then push for results
then as long as they claim visiting someone else,
unvote and 'just kidding'
i am actually a 1-shot neapolitan
i got a not-vanilla town result on x and thought it might be a red check
if they claimed vanilla they were scum and if they claimed visiting {nightkill} they were very likely scum
but since they claimed something else they are probably town
i think that sort of thing is towny fake claiming
but! it is pretty risky due to unknowns (would be slightly less risky if you were the rolecop) and! i do not know if you generally do that sort of thing as town and i guess there is a non-zero percent chance someone would be like,
'this sure does seem like something medeia would think up'
suppose i could also do some variant of that tomorrow perhaps but i don't know how good of an idea that is
i am much better at coming with ideas than i am at evaluating how good of an idea any of them actually areIn post 17, T3 wrote: Random Nurse seemed like a PR to me but that was vibes more than anything else. If it comes down to it I’ll claim odd night tracker maybe? I think Even Night tracker and VT will most likely get me limmedIn post 18, T3 wrote: Oh wait nvm it looks like I’m not being limmed. Hopefully.In post 19, medeia wrote:
i think the town contract thing may have potentially been a crumb or possibly a fake crumb of some sort,In post 17, T3 wrote: Random Nurse seemed like a PR to me but that was vibes more than anything else.
and i think maybe(?) skitter is reading it that way as well, i am not really sure
will big magnifying glass through the whole game during the night see if i can find anythingIn post 20, medeia wrote: deadline pause and reset a little punishing here but it is okay
In post 16, medeia wrote:same reason quick hammering any town at e-1 is good as scum
might have benefitted from this ^ in retrospect but can’t really factor in replacements etcIn post 21, medeia wrote:In post 17, T3 wrote: If it comes down to it I’ll claim odd night tracker maybe? I think Even Night tracker and VT will most likely get me limmed
i think claiming vanilla town has maybe gone up in value slightly with chicagotypewriter having already claimed but i am not sureIn post 22, medeia wrote: do you generally not place votes in situations like this as town?
night 1
In post 23, medeia wrote: what are your initial thoughts on night actions here?
i haven’t yet been able to think about it too much yet
we probably kill or rolecop chicagotypewriter depending upon how we want to play the day
will sit down and start looking for crumbs later todayIn post 25, T3 wrote: holy cow, i actually survived
as town i usually only make a vote at the very end of the day but there are exceptionsIn post 26, T3 wrote: i think there's a solid chance that Chicago's role isn't confirmable and that we can possibly push him tomorrow - i'd rolecop him and kill someone else.
we shouldn't kill skitter because he hard townreads you and is also widely townread. we shouldn't kill Nurse.In post 27, medeia wrote:In post 25, T3 wrote: holy cow, i actually survived
as town i usually only make a vote at the very end of the day but there are exceptions
from my perspective the end result of your wagon there was always the goal once skitter asked meuh/chicagotypewriter to vote and it reformed
just had to be patient to get it there
maybe i was supposed to be braver at the end of day and hold my vote until morning hoping for chicagotypewriter elimination
just got a little scared by sheepsaysmeep post and i was going to be asleep and then only somewhat available on mobile so i played it safe knowing random nurse would likely hammer overnightIn post 28, medeia wrote:
*she, with regards to skitterIn post 26, T3 wrote: i think there's a solid chance that Chicago's role isn't confirmable and that we can possibly push him tomorrow - i'd rolecop him and kill someone else.
we shouldn't kill skitter because he hard townreads you and is also widely townread. we shouldn't kill Nurse.
if we leave chicagotypewriter alive with hopes of pushing him it likely leads to massclaim tomorrow and then chicagotypewriter possibly being confirmed by the setup unless one of us fakeclaims
if you think you can win a final three here i can probably claim in such a way tomorrow that someone else is eliminated and then i am eliminated at five but 'why would medeia sacrifice herself to setup this endgame' only goes so far as a defense you would then have to go out and win it from there can't just hope to not lose in final three
could maybe try to fakeclaim in such a way that it's just maybe believable to also be in the setup, 'odd-night checker or visitor' that sort of thing, but idk,
i really only want to leave chicagotypewriter alive if we are pretty confident in someone else being a pr to target instead
we need not worry too much about who is townreading me and such, my being alive itself is a liability to some extent
there isn't really an argument that scum!skitter would be likely to leave me alive to try to eliminate me later so if she ever starts thinking, 'hmm maybe medeia isn't so towny', game becomes very tough
like there are angles maybe to try to push her on in the future (partially led a miselimination though got iffy about it at the end in a way that towns sometimes believe is scum indicative even though it really isn't, steered wagon off of you so could in theory be partner indicative if you are flipped, pushed a claimed pr) but ehhhhhhh i am so bad as a scums that ending up in this sort of situation feels unideal
we still need two town eliminations here and can afford one of us to be eliminated in the process just hard to figure out who those eliminations areIn post 29, medeia wrote: okay finally onto crumb collecting mission sorry for delayIn post 30, medeia wrote: i guess we should also try to weigh the likelihood that chicagotypewriter is fakeclaiming as vanilla town hereIn post 31, medeia wrote: every newbie informational type material going to tell you not to do that and very wise players and moderators like micc or mykonian going to say even when you think this is a good idea it is a bad idea don’t do it
but would i? yeah maybe
and there are others i believe would as well
just how likely is chicagotypewriter to have done so is the questionIn post 32, medeia wrote: and the newbie materials and wiser beings would obviously be correct in this situation
because if chicagotypewriter is lying then
nightkill x
rolecop chicagotypewriter
redcheck with odd-night simple-checker claiming i targeted because it seemed possible (50/50) to me that chicagotypewriter paraphrased partner’s role if chicagotypewriter was mafia and didn’t really know what else to do with it
possibly get chicagotypewriter eliminated and have pretty cleanish claimIn post 33, medeia wrote: or just let chicagotypewriter have to back pedal and possibly get self eliminated
could gain additional information rolecopping elsewhere i suppose
hm,
kinda leaning towards not likely to be a lie thoughIn post 34, T3 wrote:
i don't think so tbh, the role 'felt' realIn post 30, medeia wrote: i guess we should also try to weigh the likelihood that chicagotypewriter is fakeclaiming as vanilla town hereIn post 35, medeia wrote: why don't you want to kill random nurse?In post 36, medeia wrote: i actually think there's a non-zero percent chance this:In post 32, medeia wrote: simple-checker
is random nurse's role
simple, something that detects evasion, not fool-proof, but if gives a result possibly meaningfulrandom nurse wrote:Medeia, wanna make a Town Contract with me?
It's simple, and I made it up.
Every time I ask you a direct question you answer me upfront without evasion/deflection, and the same for me when you ask me direct questions. It's not fool-proof but it'd go a LONG way in fostering trust. If rejected or broken that'd make the one rejecting/breaking it look Scummy.
I extend this invitation to you.In post 37, medeia wrote:In post 34, T3 wrote:
i don't think so tbh, the role 'felt' realIn post 30, medeia wrote: i guess we should also try to weigh the likelihood that chicagotypewriter is fakeclaiming as vanilla town here
yeah, i kinda want to rolecop someone else if we leave chicagotypewriter alive and just get full claim from chicagotypewriter during the day
feels like a bit of a waste to use the rolecop thereIn post 38, T3 wrote: i didn't really want to kill nurse because he townread me or at least was hesitant to lim me, but what you've said actually makes senseIn post 39, medeia wrote: i still haven’t finished looking through - doing so periodically on my phone has been A Project
what i get for being exhausted last night thoughIn post 40, medeia wrote: i think maybe(?) there’s something to be said about the skepticism towards chicagotypewriter’s claim and what that means for likelihood of those players being a pr (probably slightly increased) but that’s not muchIn post 41, medeia wrote: maybe three best options to me right now seem like
t3 kills chicagotypewriter
medeia rolecops random nurse
t3 kills random nurse
medeia rolecops skitter
t3 kills skitter
medeia rolecops random nurse
but those are the three players you wanted to leave alive, so
will continue thinking on this,
ceejayvinoya is mostly townread here and hard to find an angle on but there isn't really anything that indicates to me that it's likely ceejayvinoya is a pr, so nightkill might be okay but might also raise some questions and rolecop would just be pr poe
sheepsaysmeep is somewhat townread but once again nothing that really indicates he is likely to be a pr to me, so nightkill kinda okay and rolecop once again just pr poe, either of these would be 'status quo' kills though random nurse is in a way as well
pooky doesn't seem like an ideal nightkill or rolecop here but i really do not want to find myself in a situation where i am confirmed scum to pooky and pooky is 'confirmed scum' to me though that is maybe not relevant until later
if chicagotypewriter is a commuter or hider and we try to nightkill him i would be so so sad, less sad if there is a protective and they protect chicagotypewriter but still a bit sad
but i am not sure how greatly that should weigh on our choice
like chicagotypewriter could also just get a redcheck ya knowIn post 42, medeia wrote:t3 nightkills chicagotypewriter
medeia rolecops random nurse
going to placeholder this one for now just in case
should be able to check in again 2 hours or so before the deadlineIn post 43, medeia wrote: not sure if clear eyes have made me anymore clear headed
this still feels the simplest most straightforward but
that doesn’t really make it feel ‘right’
but maybe any decision made here is ‘wrong’ if the results are not good
like no way to judge without being results oriented and i can’t be results oriented yet because i don’t have the results
(obviously there is a ‘best’ decision based on available information and such but impossible to actually considerallavailable information)In post 44, medeia wrote:t3 nightkills chicagotypewriter
medeia rolecops random nurse
sticking with it fingers crossed
sorry if disaster
day 2
In post 47, medeia wrote: yeah should have just defaulted to your choices
will brainstorm possible reasons for both resultsIn post 48, medeia wrote: possible reasons for no nightkill:
chicagotypewriter was doctored, chicagotypewriter was jailkept, chicagotypewriter is a commuter or hider, chicagotypewriter was aligned, chicagotypewriter was rolestopped, t3 was roleblocked, t3 was jailkept, t3 was aliened,
possible reasons for no rolecop result:
random nurse is ascetic, random nurse is a commuter, random nurse was rolestopped, random nurse was aliened, medeia was jailkept, medeia was roleblocked, medeia was aliened,
there are probably others just the first I thought ofIn post 49, medeia wrote: oh right bulletproof is a thing that existsIn post 50, medeia wrote: t3 was definitely right about correct approach to chicagotypewriter last night
but back on the horse soon it’s not condemning just need to be betterIn post 51, medeia wrote: (and well played to chicagotypewriter as well if you’re reading this in post game)In post 52, T3 wrote:ah fuckIn post 53, medeia wrote: we’re okay here
i’ll be home in an hour and a half or so
15k to go
you’re probably(?) a vanilla town here but up to youIn post 54, medeia wrote:In post 55, T3 wrote: we need to lim one of pooky/skitter to win here i thinkIn post 56, medeia wrote: yeah pooky and then random nurse is current line
getting nightkill through going to be dicey but yeah that’s the angle i thinkIn post 57, medeia wrote: if pooky eliminated then
{skitter, ceejayvinoya, sheepsaysmeep}
is nightkill pool
who it is isn’t important there we would just need to maximise chance of it going through
whichever of us less likely to be jailkept targeting whoever amongst the above would be least likely to be jailkept etcIn post 58, medeia wrote:In post 55, T3 wrote: we need to lim one of pooky/skitter to win here i think
of course line is malleable - don’t think skitter likely to become viable here though - pooky knows she is town so no real angle there
but if successful with the first the second elimination could then be on anyone of course random nurse just seems most likely to me right nowIn post 59, medeia wrote: i do not think random nurse elimination would be end of the world or anything either though
which also comes with benefit of making nightkill without risk
might even be good based on my success with the nightkill thus farIn post 60, T3 wrote: yeah, i think the random nurse lim would be most likely. i just don't really see an angle with which we can push pooky today thoughIn post 61, T3 wrote: alternatively we could go for sheepIn post 62, medeia wrote: i am working on angle with regards to pooky there - just don't really want to disengage pooky from mechanical approach to the game because of where that might lead and chances he becomes very apparently town while doing so and there are risks in joining skitter in pushing for an elimination outside of the pr claims right now so taking a longer term approach
there are certainly angles for pushing sheepsaysmeep as well but again somewhat slippery slope for me pushing outside of the pr claims right now and keeping wagon off of you
doesn't seem a terrible thing for you to explore if you want to though as it doesn't carry that same riskIn post 63, T3 wrote: lmao i have no idea how to push people as scum. i don't think my point was that bad i was just really clunky with my words
night 2
In post 64, T3 wrote: so now one of you/chicago is basically confscum? if you flip then i don't think i survive d4In post 65, medeia wrote:In post 63, T3 wrote: lmao i have no idea how to push people as scum. i don't think my point was that bad i was just really clunky with my words
idk it's hard to give helpful thoughts because a) i am very bad as a scums in particular but in general as well like far far too many disasters still and b) i am me and not you and i play in the way i do because i am me and while i do often make mental models of other players and how they approach various situations it is still hard for me to not replace you with me when trying to think of how to push people as a scums
but! the way i view things,
it's not that your points with regards to sheepsaysmeep were bad rather that they were otherwise disconnected from what was going on in the game, and there wasn't a way for others to connect them
like towns inherently have a lens through which they are viewing the game, which isn't always apparent and alot of the game as town is trying to fill in those blanks for others,
a large part of the reason it is easier to post as scums earlier in the game rather than later is because at the beginning of the game this lens is clear, everyone is blank the game is blank there is no information and so nothing need be tinted by anything else
but as the game goes on towns start to have reads and views of possible worlds and roles are revealed and such and so everything becomes tinted in various ways for each individual player and scums have to create this lens themselves because they know the solution so it is not naturally there, everything is always clear to a scums
so if you're not giving a way for other players to see that lens through your posts, and you're not filling it in for them when asked and such, then players will generally fill in the blanks with scum intentions
to make it less abstract, if we focus on posts about sheepsaysmeep in particular there,
prior to those posts you made a few posts focusing on the claims without too much followup, and then turned your focus to sheepsaysmeep
so you would either want to connect those things in your posts yourself, or to have it apparent to others how they are connected to you simply by reading, or to explain/fill it in if asked
like this:medeia wrote:i don't really know how to play mafia either and i can relate to frustrations with being scumread if you're town here but noone is asking you to completely solve the game or anything ya know
like just pick a post or something that has happened in the game or whatever and talk about it, the possible intentions you see for those involved, how you are weighing the likelihoods of those intentions, et cetera
like multiple players have asked you about your feelings on your wagon and such and it's like,
did you feel meuh's e-1 vote on the initial wagon was truly accidental? that initial wagon was {chicagotypewriter, ceejayvinoya, pookythemagicalbear, meuh} at it's height and three of those players have returned to your wagon now and the fourth has stated a willingness to eliminate you, does that mean anything to you with regards to their possible alignments?, what possible explanations can you think of for why that wagon dissipated in the first place? skitter then inspired the reorganization of that wagon by asking you/meuh/chicagotypewriter about your willingnesses to vote eachother? did it feel like skitter might have had a sinister motivation for doing so to you? meuh and chicagotypewriter have both expressed doubts about one another's alignments but have also both seemed very comfortable on your wagon alongside eachother, does that seem potentially noteworthy to you? et cetera et cetera
like literally you can just pick anything at all from the game and share your thoughts on it give players a chance to see if you're town
is pretty applicable to most situations as either alignment really
and you just want to ask yourself as many questions as you can possibly think of and then use as many of the answers as you reasonably can in your posts and save the rest for filling in the blanks if anyone asks you any questions or anything
i guess it's not really about pushing anyone solely just flipping over all of the rocks to see if there are worms under any of themIn post 66, medeia wrote:In post 64, T3 wrote: so now one of you/chicago is basically confscum? if you flip then i don't think i survive d4
well, from skitter's point of view the 3 town prs world is the most likely i believe
i think most everyone else may be viewing the game that way though, and my claim has definitely become slightly worse from the jailkeeper flip and such but not irrecoverably so or anything
i think there may be ways for us to play the day that would increase your chances of winning if i am eliminated and will continue to think about that tomorrow
who might you want to nightkill here?In post 67, T3 wrote:
i understand what you're saying, thanks. i'll try and apply that tomorrow. i guess i'll probably just do some kind of big reread of the gameIn post 65, medeia wrote:In post 63, T3 wrote: lmao i have no idea how to push people as scum. i don't think my point was that bad i was just really clunky with my words
idk it's hard to give helpful thoughts because a) i am very bad as a scums in particular but in general as well like far far too many disasters still and b) i am me and not you and i play in the way i do because i am me and while i do often make mental models of other players and how they approach various situations it is still hard for me to not replace you with me when trying to think of how to push people as a scums
but! the way i view things,
it's not that your points with regards to sheepsaysmeep were bad rather that they were otherwise disconnected from what was going on in the game, and there wasn't a way for others to connect them
like towns inherently have a lens through which they are viewing the game, which isn't always apparent and alot of the game as town is trying to fill in those blanks for others,
a large part of the reason it is easier to post as scums earlier in the game rather than later is because at the beginning of the game this lens is clear, everyone is blank the game is blank there is no information and so nothing need be tinted by anything else
but as the game goes on towns start to have reads and views of possible worlds and roles are revealed and such and so everything becomes tinted in various ways for each individual player and scums have to create this lens themselves because they know the solution so it is not naturally there, everything is always clear to a scums
so if you're not giving a way for other players to see that lens through your posts, and you're not filling it in for them when asked and such, then players will generally fill in the blanks with scum intentions
to make it less abstract, if we focus on posts about sheepsaysmeep in particular there,
prior to those posts you made a few posts focusing on the claims without too much followup, and then turned your focus to sheepsaysmeep
so you would either want to connect those things in your posts yourself, or to have it apparent to others how they are connected to you simply by reading, or to explain/fill it in if asked
like this:medeia wrote:i don't really know how to play mafia either and i can relate to frustrations with being scumread if you're town here but noone is asking you to completely solve the game or anything ya know
like just pick a post or something that has happened in the game or whatever and talk about it, the possible intentions you see for those involved, how you are weighing the likelihoods of those intentions, et cetera
like multiple players have asked you about your feelings on your wagon and such and it's like,
did you feel meuh's e-1 vote on the initial wagon was truly accidental? that initial wagon was {chicagotypewriter, ceejayvinoya, pookythemagicalbear, meuh} at it's height and three of those players have returned to your wagon now and the fourth has stated a willingness to eliminate you, does that mean anything to you with regards to their possible alignments?, what possible explanations can you think of for why that wagon dissipated in the first place? skitter then inspired the reorganization of that wagon by asking you/meuh/chicagotypewriter about your willingnesses to vote eachother? did it feel like skitter might have had a sinister motivation for doing so to you? meuh and chicagotypewriter have both expressed doubts about one another's alignments but have also both seemed very comfortable on your wagon alongside eachother, does that seem potentially noteworthy to you? et cetera et cetera
like literally you can just pick anything at all from the game and share your thoughts on it give players a chance to see if you're town
is pretty applicable to most situations as either alignment really
and you just want to ask yourself as many questions as you can possibly think of and then use as many of the answers as you reasonably can in your posts and save the rest for filling in the blanks if anyone asks you any questions or anything
i guess it's not really about pushing anyone solely just flipping over all of the rocks to see if there are worms under any of themIn post 68, T3 wrote:
i'd nightkill sheep, but i worry that will make a scum!Pooky world less likely to the rest of the town just because sheep is the only person who really townreads pookyIn post 66, medeia wrote:In post 64, T3 wrote: so now one of you/chicago is basically confscum? if you flip then i don't think i survive d4
well, from skitter's point of view the 3 town prs world is the most likely i believe
i think most everyone else may be viewing the game that way though, and my claim has definitely become slightly worse from the jailkeeper flip and such but not irrecoverably so or anything
i think there may be ways for us to play the day that would increase your chances of winning if i am eliminated and will continue to think about that tomorrow
who might you want to nightkill here?In post 70, medeia wrote:In post 67, T3 wrote: i understand what you're saying, thanks. i'll try and apply that tomorrow. i guess i'll probably just do some kind of big reread of the game
i think some likely conversations, at least at the beginning of the day, will be
what random nurse flip means for the other pr claims
skitter world v. scum in me/chicagotypewriter
the nightkill
the random nurse wagon
the hammer
and then other player specific things,
so evaluating those in reread seems good,
In post 64, T3 wrote: so now one of you/chicago is basically confscum? if you flip then i don't think i survive d4
and if you'd think it is likely that one of me/chicagotypewriter is confscum in this situation there's no need to shy away from that,
basically don't worry about my being eliminated when thinking about positioning and such; i will do my very best not to fail in that regard
and any anxieties you have about my flipping or anything you can channel into towny anxieties,
coordinating hammer might not be the easiest for us if the situation arises but we will figure it outIn post 71, medeia wrote:In post 68, T3 wrote: but i worry that will make a scum!Pooky world less likely to the rest of the town just because sheep is the only person who really townreads pooky
i think scum!pooky would quite possibly nightkill skitter in this situation and then say 'i would never nightkill skitter here',
but i do not really think everyone will reach the conclusion that scum!pooky is less likely because sheepsaysmeep is dead,
sheepsaysmeep was hardpushing chicagotypewriter/random nurse as definitely containing a scums and you as the partner,
so his death generally implicates either you/chicagotypewriter or! someone trying to implicate you/chicagotypewriter, so!In post 72, medeia wrote:In post 70, medeia wrote:i think some likely conversations, at least at the beginning of the day, will be
what random nurse flip means for the other pr claims
skitter world v. scum in me/chicagotypewriter
the nightkill
the random nurse wagon
the hammer
and then other player specific things,
and whether or not we should no eliminate as wellIn post 73, T3 wrote:
oh yeah - should we push for a no lim? tomorrow i think i might try to buddy up a bit with chicago and weakly echo a lot of what he saysIn post 72, medeia wrote: and whether or not we should no eliminate as wellIn post 74, medeia wrote:In post 73, T3 wrote: oh yeah - should we push for a no lim?
if that's how you would evaluate it, i don't think it greatly benefits scum!us nor hurts us, so it's just up to how you would view the benefits of it to town!you i think
day 3
In post 75, medeia wrote:In post 76, T3 wrote: if we no lim today, who do you think we should kill tonight? i think we probably kill brass, but i'm not sure. i think we should just do our best to keep the current gamestate because i don't see you getting limmed at any point if things stay the way they are.In post 77, medeia wrote: uh, i am not sure, i would lean towards skitter but must think about more gather further information et cetera
keeping current gamestate does make sense tho yeah
night 3
In post 78, medeia wrote: so nightkills various potential teams might make:
skitter/x - medeia
pooky/chicagotypewriter - no kill or skitter or brassherald; maybe medeia if afraid of check but i have argued against their potential pairing multiple times and skitter and brassherald have both posited it as a possibility at different times
pooky/brassherald - medeia
pooky/t3 - medeia
chicagotypewriter/brassherald - no kill or skitter, don't think they'd kill pooky even though he suggested possibility of but maybe they would
chicagotypewriter/t3 - no kill or skitter
brassherald/t3 - medeia
basically every team not involving chicagotypewriter would be likely to kill me even if they weren't afraid of the check and then just eliminate chicagotypewriter i think while saying 'chicagotypewriter and partner had to kill medeia because of the check didn't want to get whole team caught instead of just chicagotypewriter'
the ones involving chicagotypewriter would only be likely to kill me if they were explicitly afraid of the check i think and if they were not afraid of the check i think they would be most likely to kill skitter or to no kill
i think brassherald kill would only be somewhat likely to be made by pooky/chicagotypewriter or possibly(?) chicagotypewriter/t3 (you might be able to answer that one better than i can)
but since those are viable worlds to most players it could also be a viable nightkill for us
possible nightkill targets:
no kill - maybe(?) worse than shooting chicagotypewriter; would rather nightkill someone anyway
chicagotypewriter - i mostly don't want to do this because then it's like 'oh scums could have shot chicagotypewriter again' or 'chicagotypewriter trying to make it seem like he was shot again' and then we probably end up sleeping again and yeah, it's a viable option though
skitter - still leaning this way i think, seems logical nightkill in chicagotypewriter worlds and can still be said pooky did it and if leaving me alive anyone who might try to push me would probably want skitter out of the way to do so and such
pooky - nah
brassherald - if you still want to to keep things status quo i am okay with doing so up to you, i'll play the day however it opens ya know, and i am not very wise so if you want to overrule please do so
possible 'check' targets
t3 - can't really claim unsuccessful on you because you're not ascetic and if you were eliminated it doesn't actually make any sense for your partner to have roleblocked me as they would be likely to be framing themselves, don't really want to claim successful on you as it just ties us together a little more
chicagotypewriter - okay so okay so okay so the problem here is that, ascetic chicagotypewriter would have always claimed commuter not bulletproof i think, so an unsuccessful check seems like one of those ever expanding holes, successful check a possible option though
(it probably makes the most sense to use the actual rolecop on chicagotypewriter regardless but i am fairly confident everyone truthful about roles)
skitter - nah; i have a pretty good idea of what a saw music starts to play in my head 'oh no it was skitter all along' paranoid spiral sort of thing would look like because town me has been prone to that sort of thing at times but a) i wouldn't initiate this with a check anyway and b) i generally need to be at like 10 billion percent for that kinda thing to happen as town and i'm at like 35% right now at most
pooky - kinda want to check pooky as i can easily explain why i checked him at length (he was very quick to assume there was an ascetic, unsure of him etc); claiming unsuccessful maybe more okay in this situation because roleblocker would be like, theoretically possible, but i still kinda want to avoid that sort of direct 'oh you're most likely a scums!' sort of thing like pooky can be very obviously town if you give him the solution so i'd rather claim successful
brassherald - just seems kinda difficult to explain why i would have checked brassherald so nah
so nightkill skitter (or brassherald if you would like)
successfully check chicagotypewriter or pooky
rolecop chicagotypewriter
?In post 79, medeia wrote: submitting these:
t3 nightkills skitter
medeia rolecops chicagotypewriter
as our night actions and then requesting a fast night
but if you'd like to nightkill brassherald instead that is also okay with me as i said above up to you if so just resubmit with brassherald replacing skitterIn post 80, medeia wrote: other potential benefit of nightkilling brassherald would be that it leaves me/skitter alive and pooky was pushing paranoid angle of that possibility
i don't think scum!pooky would be super likely to try to win through that but he might try to look towny doing so and then fall back to you/chicagotypewriter whoever wasn't partnered with him or even! partner and then the other the following day,
and it could also be argued that non-pooky scums would want pooky to push that angle for them, could be their best bet and suchIn post 81, medeia wrote: and it's not like anyone is really heavily suspecting brassherald eitherIn post 82, medeia wrote: guess i just worry that the only like truly viable chicagotypewriter team if we nightkilled brassherald would be you/chicagotypewriter
and that if you are eliminated first the argument that the two of you are not partnered is not actually like a terrible oneIn post 83, T3 wrote: i think we should probably kill brassherald. mainly bc i think killing brassherald will preserve the gamestate and also yeah, no one suspects him.In post 84, T3 wrote:t3 kills brassherald
i think that town will probably just speed through the me/chicago lims and not really give it much of a second thought, unless it is towards limming pooky tbh.In post 85, medeia wrote:In post 83, T3 wrote: i think we should probably kill brassherald. mainly bc i think killing brassherald will preserve the gamestate and also yeah, no one suspects him.
i guess i still worry that it narrows the worlds like i said above and also if skitter starts to scumread me it is very doomed, whereas anyone else it's just like, ope maybe they're trying to win the game, ya know
In post 84, T3 wrote: i think that town will probably just speed through the me/chicago lims and not really give it much of a second thought, unless it is towards limming pooky tbh.
i don't think there is any chance town will speed through anything here unless chicagotypewriter forces it by voting, otherwise it's going to be super super grindy day if skitter alive as she will rereview and such
especially since everyone currently scumreads chicagotypewriter and it doesn't really make sense for you/chicagotypewriter to kill brassherald if partnered together, so there are multiple flashing red lights for everyone to work through
our associatives are pretty ugly so we also have to be very careful about how voting plays out and such in terms of which teams get confirmed as impossible through that and suchIn post 86, medeia wrote:In post 85, medeia wrote: it doesn't really make sense for you/chicagotypewriter to kill brassherald if partnered together
right like brassherald is the only living player that hasn't directly suggested you/chicagotypewriter outside of the two of you
the rest of us have and skitter and i both just did
In post 83, T3 wrote: i think killing brassherald will preserve the gamestate and also yeah, no one suspects him.
and yeah, idk how much the gamestate can actually be preserved because it doesn't actually work as is,
and it's not like anyone really suspects skitter either
like pooky townreads her despite the stated paranoia and i think pooky would always go for me first if he felt pretty certain it was actually me/skitter
and then if i was eliminated in that situation you'd have to then convince chicagotypewriter that skitter was my partner in final three
with chicagotypewriter more or less confirmedIn post 87, medeia wrote:In post 86, medeia wrote: like pooky townreads her despite the stated paranoia and i think pooky would always go for me first if he felt pretty certain it was actually me/skitter
and then if i was eliminated in that situation you'd have to then convince chicagotypewriter that skitter was my partner in final three
this actually nearly impossible because skitter would have had to have decided to eliminate me over pooky so would need to win this at five if pooky votes meIn post 88, medeia wrote:
other option is if pooky/chicagotypewriter vote me you find a reasonable way to hammer and then convince chicagotypewriter that skitter is my partner not youIn post 87, medeia wrote: this actually nearly impossible because skitter would have had to have decided to eliminate me over pooky so would need to win this at five if pooky votes meIn post 89, medeia wrote:In post 83, T3 wrote: i think we should probably kill brassherald. mainly bc i think killing brassherald will preserve the gamestate and also yeah, no one suspects him.
yeah mostly i just don't think most potential scum teams here would want to preserve the gamestate or anything like that either
day 4
In post 91, T3 wrote:
true, although we’re can’t do anything about that now lolIn post 89, medeia wrote:In post 83, T3 wrote: i think we should probably kill brassherald. mainly bc i think killing brassherald will preserve the gamestate and also yeah, no one suspects him.
yeah mostly i just don't think most potential scum teams here would want to preserve the gamestate or anything like that either
Chicago lied but I don’t think it makes much of a difference in how we go about todayIn post 92, medeia wrote:In post 91, T3 wrote: true, although we’re can’t do anything about that now lol
oh it's fine i was still thinking about it and such but i know to keep reminding myself to just play the day
like there's always time to review choices made after the game and i've certainly made dozens of questionable if not outright terrible ones this game
but for now!
pa'lanteIn post 93, T3 wrote: i think my only real option is to repeat stuff i've said yesterday and don't really do much else and then hope that skitter ends up voting pooky or ct
if i get voted out today there are gonna be a lot of weird questions about why you didn't get killedIn post 94, T3 wrote: i'll try and leave some more bad associatives with chicago today in case i get limmedIn post 95, T3 wrote: Just realized that I have never voted in ELO during any game on this site ever
As town I always get limmed beforehand and when I’ve quickhammered as scum it’s been in MELO but not ELO.In post 96, medeia wrote:In post 95, T3 wrote: Just realized that I have never voted in ELO during any game on this site ever
As town I always get limmed beforehand and when I’ve quickhammered as scum it’s been in MELO but not ELO.
lol
i have significantly more experience in elo as a scums than as town
i am a nightkill magnet regardless of how accurate my reads are or how much sense it makes for the game
like i was killed night 1 in my last game despite misreading so hard i doctored a scums (who was caught killing me by a watcher)
and in the game before that i was killed night 2 in a newbie game despite being a claimed vanilla town when two prs were still alive
so i basically never get to play elo as townIn post 97, T3 wrote: As a VT I have been limmed in all but 1 of my games, in which I was killed N1 after making a total of 15 posts while somehow having perfect reads and being widely townread.
As scum I either crash out day 1 or do very well but then get limmed in f6 or so. This game I crashed out day 1 but had a miraculous stoke of luck and am somehow still aliveIn post 98, medeia wrote: oh i do not think luck was much of a factor in thatIn post 99, T3 wrote: This is wild lol, bloodhail’s main is like, Koba, maybe??? I have no idea but I’m reading through his posts and I’m giggling out loudIn post 100, T3 wrote: Nvm lol he’s peta, that’s what I get for not reading the posts in chronological order
My prospects of staying alive feel very dimIn post 101, T3 wrote: No way I can continue to justify a bloodhail/skitter team
I might as well just roll over and die
or maybe I can vote fake being freaked out scum and vote skitter to get bloodhail to vote skitter? But there’s nothing stopping bloodhail from voting me there.In post 102, medeia wrote: it’s petapanIn post 103, medeia wrote: still hope for skitter/pooky crossvote so i don’t think you should force vote hereIn post 104, medeia wrote: let me know when you're aroundIn post 105, medeia wrote:In post 104, medeia wrote: let me know when you're around
!!
we can coordinate hammer whenever you’re ableIn post 106, T3 wrote:
Im hereIn post 105, medeia wrote:In post 104, medeia wrote: let me know when you're around
!!
we can coordinate hammer whenever you’re ableIn post 107, T3 wrote: I have the hammer typed up, lmk when you do too and then we can hammerIn post 108, medeia wrote:okay readyIn post 109, medeia wrote:say goIn post 111, medeia wrote: ayyyyyy good job!!!!!!
medeia's pt:
Spoiler:pregame
In post 0, Invisibility wrote:blep
day 1
In post 4, medeia wrote:
yeah idk
want to repost this basically every time i think about this game
doing okay at diverting pressure to myself and then in theory from there diverting pressure to those pushing me
need some players to be scumreading me anyway to explain my presence later on in the game
couldn't really be like 'okay let's push pooky' there since that would immediately raise serious alarm bells for skitter pooky and meuh
but do need to work on more ways to divert pressure from t3 - in theory the best way is for t3 to simply return and townpost - but do need a backup plan of some sort
there are maybe some exploitable ties to t3 from other players but bussing so meh day one would very much rather not
any sort of plan probably involves very drawn out day and then trying to give direction at that point, which i have enough experience doing as town, though something could easily happen in the meantime
or simply a claim so i should think about possible claims if necessary for both myself and t3 while trainingIn post 7, medeia wrote: okay so
current votes on t3 are chicagotypewriter, ceejayvinoya and skitter
with meuh and pooky also having stated scumreads
best alternative outlets currently:
chicagotypewriter onto random nurse, though we'll learn more when chicagotypewriter catches up
ceejayvinoya onto kcdaspot
skitter and pooky onto meuh
pooky onto random nurse
meuh onto chicagotypewriter
waiting for kcdaspot to catchup to see stances, waiting for random nurse to abandon no longer viable wagon on me to see where he goes
lots of time in day and random nurse and meuh can potentially be 4/5 already doing the drawn out day and end of day push thing
so those both feel somewhat achievable
and i think maybe there's some room with kcdaspot here will maybe explore some sort of 'very wary of kcdaspot only focusing on me and then resetting once my wagon was no longer viable and such but we'll see what he returns with and such' soon maybe???
feel like would have to openwolf a bit or even more than a bit for chicagotypewriter push
think ceejayvinoya, skitter, and pooky wagons are probably non-viable today unless something drastic happens, and kinda wanna be nightkilling in this group but really need to look closely for potential prs at some pointIn post 8, medeia wrote:also yeah think maybe it was non-beneficial for me to be posting in the mafia pt but ^^^
and
like best way to divert pressure from t3 is still for t3 to townpost which there is room for with pooky post about 'who do you sus' and is also the purpose of my question towards and there's also room for t3 to walk skitter through thought process regarding the vote/unvote thing which could also 'appeal' to me and such or whatever
so talking about backup plan in pt and such was maybe actively bad yeahIn post 10, medeia wrote: okayokayokayokayokayokayokayokayokay
coffee then i suppose i should do the thingIn post 12, medeia wrote: feel like maybe i have messed this up horribly
just wanted t3 to interact with me so i/others could townread it or glimpses of it
but i think maybe the correct play was to just let t3 be altogether
because he was doing very well with passively letting players simply move on to other pursuits
i was just worried about end of day when everyone needs to find a wagon,
i dunno,
scum!pooky would have taken the openwolf route with regards to chicagotypewriter which i was also feeling out there working on exploring
and scum!flavour leaf would probably just townread t3 without the interaction altogether based on lack of wanting to survive/defend self or something (which i may now explore, also reminder to self that similarities to that one time with andante might be useful)
so i think maybe just misjudged everything here / should have taken a better lineIn post 13, medeia wrote:In post 12, medeia wrote: and scum!flavour leaf would probably just townread t3 without the interaction altogether based on lack of wanting to survive/defend self or something (which i may now explore, also reminder to self that similarities to that one time with andante might be useful)
yeah idk 'think scum!t3 would make some effort to appease me' or something like that
training and then we'll seeIn post 14, medeia wrote: guess maybe plant the seed and hedge might be betterIn post 15, medeia wrote:In post 16, medeia wrote: that was definitely bad posting but grueling day can't do better until later
night 1
In post 17, medeia wrote: sorry meuh
not feeling like i am going to solve this one
look at disaster gameIn post 18, medeia wrote: why is it so difficult for me to make basic decisions
like i've now just compiled everything i can possibly think of re: nightkill and rolecop in a notepad and it's just like,
dunnoIn post 19, medeia wrote: also when trying to plan out how i think the days will go i realize i am still impossibly prone to wanting to try out increasingly terrible ideas so let's just try to keep it on the tracks here
haven't had to type out
NO MORE IDEAS
recently
but also maybe
NO MORE IDEAS
and
DO NOT GET TOO DISTRACTEDIn post 20, medeia wrote:
day 2
In post 26, medeia wrote:@moderator,
could i please see what result pms would look like for a checker?In post 27, medeia wrote: there are sample role pms on the wiki but no sample resultsIn post 29, Invisibility wrote:In post 26, medeia wrote:@moderator,
could i please see what result pms would look like for a checker?
In post 30, medeia wrote:thankyou!In post 31, medeia wrote: okay definitely need a new song or two that make me want to post lacking in desire tonight let's seeIn post 32, medeia wrote:In post 33, medeia wrote:In post 34, medeia wrote: i love that anytime i cannot or do not want to solve the game as it is i can just change it into something i do
like ope do not want to build the lego death star anymore it is now the empire state building tada!
that is most redeeming feature of playing as a scums to meIn post 35, medeia wrote:In post 786, medeia wrote: i like how often our thoughts line up (like with the claiming the remaining shots thing) and am going to force myself not to get paranoid about this
this was partly for meuh's benefit if she's still reading the game
wanted to give her a hint something to alert the spidey sense
since her initial feelings were so accurate here and i feel badIn post 36, medeia wrote: if i were somewhat competent and we nightkilled random nurse i could just
be Towm
and that would maybe be enough
but alasIn post 37, medeia wrote: or if i was just brave at the end of the day
okay no more 'if onlys though'
game is in front of you
save it for afterIn post 38, medeia wrote: kinda wish this were a bastard game so i could be like ‘yeah idk what i'm doing’ and then invisibility could be like ‘yeah idk what you’re doing either’ and then i could post mitski’s i bet on losing dogs and invisibility could be like ‘this is nice’In post 39, medeia wrote:
night 2
In post 40, medeia wrote: end of day push there was kinda wolfy but that's the only window i had for doing so since i wouldn't be able to be around from when i was until a few hours ago and it was such a beneficial elimination for us
kinda worried about hell day tomorrow +/night 3
In post 41, medeia wrote: guess i don’t know why t3 diverted from ‘one scum in medeia/chicagotypewriter’ ‘going to echo chicagotypewriter’ here
everyone scumreading chicagotypewriter now so have to work around that tomorrow
i am pretty sure scum!chicagotypewriter would come into tomorrow with prepared stance/push and try to 1v1 for win while partner was outwardly against it but waiting in case a town was convinced
so i guess i hope town!chicagotypewriter also likely to take that kind of line here
should get working on who to nightkill /claim check on and such so we could potentially fast night just annoying to do on phoneIn post 42, medeia wrote: sure have made a lot of catastrophic unforced errors here but just have to win one more dayIn post 43, medeia wrote:In post 44, medeia wrote: tomorrow probably going to end up a high volume day don't really understand why t3 thinks town will speed through this without a second thought that just seems so very unlikely to me
guess i don't understand why we're taking this approach to the day either but it's like,
just play the day medeia
just play the day
because it's not like i'm actually any good at all at strategic decisions and if t3 is more confident with this and gets some benefit out of it and such then that's enough
more than enough really because regardless of what we do here,
still have to play the day
probably going to have to be significantly townier tomorrow than i have been since day one
which like, idk, i feel like this is probably pretty stupid to say but that generally feels out of my control lol
like i feel like it just depends upon how i am thinking or feeling at any given time but i don't even know which thoughts/feelings actually constitute a towny headspace so most of the time i am just typing the things i am thinking about and hoping that they are inherently towny things
how my posting is received and such probably does correlate a bit with other things in my life in an observable way (regardless of my alignment) but it's not like i can just continue not to post during my availability windows if i do not think it will go wellIn post 45, medeia wrote: mmm, i want to switch the nightkill back so badly
betting against skitter solving the game from this position just seems so wild to me
especially when it doesn't feel like there is any possible recourse if she does
like it would require me to do the one thing that i specifically explained to t3 seemed unachievable to me
and yeah
like she's very very good and i would much rather just cash out here it's just playing with fire to bet she'll continue misreading me foreverIn post 46, medeia wrote: which isn't to say everyone else isn't good of course
this is my first experience with brassherald but he seems quite capable,
pooky knows how highly i think of him and
and i kinda assume chicagotypewriter is somewhat likely to have things mostly figured out anyway,
it's just that, i can show how and why those solves would either be incorrect or! scums trying to win the game,
whereas with skitter probably have to say ignore everything that doesn't make sense ignore game state not making sense ignoring feelings ignore intuition just believe in meIn post 47, medeia wrote: which maybe t3 believes in me more than i believe in me
in terms of my being able to successfully do so if necessary
or in terms of my being able to continue to not be eliminated
i just, i dunno, feels like asking a lot of me ya know
but maybe i am misreading the situation altogether
maybe it will be straightforward day like he thinks
or maybe i should rise to the challenge or whatever
because if i fail,
it isn't any less my fault because i whined about it beforehand
like it's not like i don't know what i need to do here regardlessIn post 48, medeia wrote:In post 41, medeia wrote:i am pretty sure scum!chicagotypewriter would come into tomorrow with prepared stance/push and try to 1v1 for win while partner was outwardly against it but waiting in case a town was convinced
so i guess i hope town!chicagotypewriter also likely to take that kind of line here
really hoping for thisIn post 49, medeia wrote: (might still switch the nightkill back)In post 50, medeia wrote:
day 4
In post 51, medeia wrote: better son/daughter
was almost certainly a scumpost
but it's such an incredible song that it felt too selfish to post it here or in mafia pt
whole album is incredible and! it has given me an idea for future mafia playing useIn post 52, medeia wrote:In post 38, medeia wrote: yeah idk what i'm doing
yeah no idea re: the replacement just started posting
at least maybe there is like, cutting off angles for myself thingyou do not know my language anymore
no one will learn my tongue-
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