Mini 2332: A Mid-scummer Nights Dream | Meowhalla (Spoiler-Free)

[DragonEater70]

Between the JOAT uPick disaster and this game's creative efforts to ignore mechanical advantages, I felt creatively inspired to commentate on the 2024 town meta. It brought out a musical side of me.

https://voca.ro/1hYmXpgAUyhx

This is amusing but I also feel way too called out by this.

[morph the cat]

Welcome, Enchant!

[Enchant]

FINALLY.

[fferyllt]

Now we learn how many dimensions of chess Ydra has been playing.

[Enchant]

Fun fact: I was just angry at Von scumreading me, i instavote Sun if i live because of blatant quickhammer.

[Cabd]

The game is over the second ydra rereads her role PM or somebody votes wrong, whichever occurs first.

[Enchant]

My "blood on the clocktower" game proves we are doomed.

[Prism]

Now we learn how many dimensions of chess Ydra has been playing.

There literally wasn't a reason to hold it. She was never voting Enchant so it didn't matter who the nightkill was.

[Cabd]

And this is where ydra 50000% IQ votes to hammer and win for scum?

[Enchant]

I think ydrasse uses dice system to analyse.

[Enchant]

Which is not bad, i also using it.

[Aureal]

Can they hurry up and end this somehow pleeeease?

[Cabd]

I am screaming because seriously, look at this role PM:

Hello, Ydrasse!

You are a

Sleeping Beauty

of the

Dream Voyagers.

Your abilities are:

• Why can't I keep my eyes open?
  : As a Sleeping Beauty, if you are visited by a member of the
  Bad Dreams
  , you will be whisked away and put into a deep sleep
  before
  any harm can come to you. You will sleep the night and following day in your private tower where none can find or disturb you. You cannot be targeted or voted while you are in your tower.
  
• Do I talk in my sleep? Are you sure?
  : Your voice and your vote.

Your Win Condition is

You win when all

Bad Dreams

have been eliminated or nothing can prevent that from happening

Please confirm by quoting or paraphrasing your faction's name, rule 3 from the Game-Specific Rules, and your favorite color in reply to this message.

[Aureal]

Mmm yeah that's kinda ambiguous. Mentioning harm likely makes one focus on how it avoids actions that would've been harmful. A night hood doesn't exactly sound harmful.

[ActionDan]

Fun fact: I was just angry at Von scumreading me, i instavote Sun if i live because of blatant quickhammer.

-_- you really should have made that clear. Repeatedly

[Prism]

von payne both of you if you’re town im genuinely very sorry but i don’t think i can find you this game

a skill issue on my end

ik not voting immediately

reading role pm undefeated in 2024

ROYAL PREROGATIVE

[Prism]

Mmm yeah that's kinda ambiguous. Mentioning harm likely makes one focus on how it avoids actions that would've been harmful. A night hood doesn't exactly sound harmful.

I don't think it's ambiguous. "visit" is clearly more than a nightkill IMO

[Prism]

It's very close to how I'd write the same power.

[Prism]

I've had several walls I've wanted to write responses to since Day 1, more for completeness than necessity, but at this rate it probably won't happen.

[Klick]

I've got the confbias and I'm biased from having just finished a game with Black, but I struggle to see how Von Payne is not incredibly obviously towny in this endgame discussion
Black is posting like textbook town endgame and Sunflower is posting like textbook scum endgame

I think Ydrasse kind of realises this with her post asking to see examples of Black in endgame? It's just whether she values that evidence over whatever she thinks makes Von Payne scummy otherwise

[Enchant]

Fun fact: I was just angry at Von scumreading me, i instavote Sun if i live because of blatant quickhammer.

-_- you really should have made that clear. Repeatedly

Maybe. I am not in like to impose my opinions on other people.

After all. Who would listen to me anyway?

[Cabd]

Scum was originally gonna shoot Ydra, and have Enchant pick so.

They changed last second.

[Aureal]

Mmm yeah that's kinda ambiguous. Mentioning harm likely makes one focus on how it avoids actions that would've been harmful. A night hood doesn't exactly sound harmful.

I don't think it's ambiguous. "visit" is clearly more than a nightkill IMO

And I'd say targeting her during the day to add to the night hood isn't clearly a visit either. Especially given how it goes on to specify that she stays in the tower for the night and day phases. That also leads one think it triggers on night actions but not day ones. It's just really not very intuitive how it would interact with the hood power if that was scum. Not that she couldn't have asked.

[DragonEater70]

Fun fact: I was just angry at Von scumreading me, i instavote Sun if i live because of blatant quickhammer.

Don't worry, we already know you are the best mafia player here.

[DragonEater70]

I do think Sunflower played well and deserves the win.