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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:19 am

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i think may is town because of her complete disregard to being townread and also just an overall lack of positioning attempts.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:24 am

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i thought may was the towniest player at first and i don't think she needed to try to position because she was in a good one. it felt like after she wasn't as townread anymore she started feeling some pressure to perform.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:27 am

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you mean on page 16 or before that?
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:28 am

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HURT: all
HEAL: taswassen, aventurine, black
I'm tired.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:28 am

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In post 427, tired person wrote: you mean on page 16 or before that?
16 yes
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:29 am

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i think that tired person making the case that may is town while both of them are on the outskirts of being included in coalitions is more likely to be town behavior.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:34 am

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In post 425, tired person wrote: i think may is town because of her complete disregard to being townread and also just an overall lack of positioning attempts.
In post 428, tired person wrote: HURT: all
HEAL: taswassen, aventurine, black
Two questions. Why did you not put May in your coalition? And considering you townread May due to her not trying to get townread, what do you think of me actively trying to get townread?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:36 am

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In post 430, Moros wrote: i think that tired person making the case that may is town while both of them are on the outskirts of being included in coalitions is more likely to be town behavior.
I don't really agree, and I think it makes a lot of sense if the solve is just TP/May
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:52 am

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In post 424, tired person wrote:
In post 423, Tsawwassen wrote:
In post 421, tired person wrote: tas how do you feel about the following, drastically different coalition?
tired person, black, tas, aventurine, may
You already know the answers to this question, bozo
did you find cutter b actively scummy? because i found her pretty towny before i replaced in
also talk to me about your may scumread and umlaut townread because we seem to diverge there.
You found your pred towny? Most convincing argument :lol:

cutter b wasn't particularly scummy per se, she just wasn't doing a whole lot, so she was like the baseline scum for me
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 5:59 am

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In post 432, Black wrote:
In post 430, Moros wrote: i think that tired person making the case that may is town while both of them are on the outskirts of being included in coalitions is more likely to be town behavior.
I don't really agree, and I think it makes a lot of sense if the solve is just TP/May
I want to hear your logic for this
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 6:02 am

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In post 425, tired person wrote: i think may is town because of her complete disregard to being townread and also just an overall lack of positioning attempts.
I don't think May has done a satisfactory amount of town hunting - one of the things I'm looking for in this setup specifically, nor steered the discussion in a way that's conducive for that purpose

I don't actually know where you stand other than your current coalition votes though, what made you consider May over others?
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 6:11 am

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In post 432, Black wrote:
In post 430, Moros wrote: i think that tired person making the case that may is town while both of them are on the outskirts of being included in coalitions is more likely to be town behavior.
I don't really agree, and I think it makes a lot of sense if the solve is just TP/May
Hmm idk... seems unnecessarily risky to force two unpopular candidates into the coalition
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 6:16 am

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Could be a curve ball though

I don't know what to make of tired person's coalition vote changes yet, seems a bit rushed
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 6:39 am

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I think I fundamentally disagree that approaching coalition games with a decreased interest in finding scum is the strongest way to win the setup

That formula is
You don't actually find 5 town because the easiest way to find town is watching townies hunt scum
The coalition fails, even if you don't believe point one, most do
All of your favorite town reads get mercked to the sky by NKs because everyone has gotten very public and confbiased about their strongest town reads
You make the entire setup divide and conquer but worse
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 6:46 am

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I like Tsawassen more
Umlaut is a coconut
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 6:55 am

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I'm mainly focusing on the coalition and how people are playing around it right now

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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:08 am

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In post 434, May wrote:
In post 432, Black wrote:
In post 430, Moros wrote: i think that tired person making the case that may is town while both of them are on the outskirts of being included in coalitions is more likely to be town behavior.
I don't really agree, and I think it makes a lot of sense if the solve is just TP/May
I want to hear your logic for this
Well if you and tp are scum then one of you has to make the coalition to avoid losing the game, so I think dropping a TR on you makes sense
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:08 am

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In post 436, Tsawwassen wrote:
In post 432, Black wrote:
In post 430, Moros wrote: i think that tired person making the case that may is town while both of them are on the outskirts of being included in coalitions is more likely to be town behavior.
I don't really agree, and I think it makes a lot of sense if the solve is just TP/May
Hmm idk... seems unnecessarily risky to force two unpopular candidates into the coalition
It's a risk they would have to take if they didn't want to lose the game though
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:19 am

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In post 441, Black wrote:
In post 434, May wrote:
In post 432, Black wrote:
In post 430, Moros wrote: i think that tired person making the case that may is town while both of them are on the outskirts of being included in coalitions is more likely to be town behavior.
I don't really agree, and I think it makes a lot of sense if the solve is just TP/May
I want to hear your logic for this
Well if you and tp are scum then one of you has to make the coalition to avoid losing the game, so I think dropping a TR on you makes sense
Does town reading a player but refusing to coalition them improve their odds of getting called at all? I'd expect the reverse effect but I guess it matters what to would expect and it's a secret alt with four posts so hard for me to know
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:19 am

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*coalled
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:19 am

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*what tp would expect
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:20 am

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Really would love to see more significant content from Umlaut. I don't really like having to de facto de-coalition my once- and maybe still-strongest townread for inactivity but I can't really complain.

Tsawwassen's recent slate of posting is very interesting, mulling around in my head right now
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:22 am

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In post 418, tired person wrote:
In post 411, Tsawwassen wrote: I think we are all converging on a coalition
In post 414, Tsawwassen wrote: Umlaut, implosion, Black, Moros, Aventurine

^ this one I think
In post 416, Tsawwassen wrote: Hmm, ok we are on the precipice of convergence
I originally thought that this sequence was scummy because i thought tas as town should oppose coalitions that don't include him (i know i would). but now i think tas is actually town because it does seem this coalition aligns with his reads and i think he might just be happy to have a coalition that aligns with his reads more or less... but this only makes me want to oppose this coalition even more because if tas and i are town, the chances of this coalition succeeding is very very low. an if he's scum then i was initially right that he is trying to push a coalition with his partner.
If you originally thought that the sequence was scummy, why didn't you mention in thread that you thought it was scummy at the time you were having those thoughts?
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:22 am

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In post 443, May wrote:
In post 441, Black wrote:
In post 434, May wrote:
In post 432, Black wrote:
In post 430, Moros wrote: i think that tired person making the case that may is town while both of them are on the outskirts of being included in coalitions is more likely to be town behavior.
I don't really agree, and I think it makes a lot of sense if the solve is just TP/May
I want to hear your logic for this
Well if you and tp are scum then one of you has to make the coalition to avoid losing the game, so I think dropping a TR on you makes sense
Does town reading a player but refusing to coalition them improve their odds of getting called at all? I'd expect the reverse effect but I guess it matters what to would expect and it's a secret alt with four posts so hard for me to know
I think it's scummy that he townreads you but didn't include you. We need to hear from him regarding why he did that
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu May 02, 2024 8:25 am

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In post 421, tired person wrote: tas how do you feel about the following, drastically different coalition?
tired person, black, tas, aventurine, may
Also what the hecking heck is this question? Is this a real serious question? Did you genuinely think there was any possibility that Tsawwassen would answer in the affirmative, if so why given the coalition that they'd just said they thought was good and if not then why ask it?

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