Newbie 2103 | Endgame

[Wayward Son]

VOTE: LutoTheController Everything they've said so far sounds scummy.

@ NorwegianboyEE This'll be my last game as a Newbie. I

think

I've learned a few things along the way.

BloodBot is the only one I've played with before.

Around this time of day is when you can usually count on catching me on Mafiascum, for those who like discussing in real time. I'll occasionally check the thread at other times.

I have no opinions on anything yet.

[Wayward Son]

After a quick reread through, BloodBot and NorwegienboyEE are my Town leans for now.

These are very weak (P2) reads. BloodBot because of a kind of comradery, NorwegienboyEE because I like his posts so far.

I feel so lonely in this Town.

[Wayward Son]

@ BloodBot There's really not a lot to work with, and not a lot to poke at. Where do you think the conversation should go?

[Wayward Son]

So i’ll interact relatively normally. But i’m also awaiting for the time where i feel there would be enough data to do an worthwhile analysis.

Overall, I've been 50% right on my scum reads,

and

50% of the scum team were in my Town reads. I've been limmed, NKed, and survived. All in all my win rate is 100%. (brag)

[Wayward Son]

@ BloodBot I caught this from Meg's ISO. In 32 BloodBot Town reads Norwegian, I agree. You then town read FP because he voted for you and vibes. You are unsure about me because I only had one post (in this game) but in a different game I was leading in posts?

Then there's this

VOTE: MegAzumarill I love wagons. MegAzumarill seems to be doing the most to steer the game without providing much of substance to actually help town. Therefor, sus. That puts them at E-2.

I have Meg's ISO up now, I disagree. I wouldn't say they're steering anything, but I'd almost say they were my second strongest Town read. Do I have this right as I've described?

32 and 23 are where my doubts are coming from!?
I'm sure this is just an easy mixup and we'll all laugh about this later. lol After your response!

And just to make it clear, You're Town reading both Norwegian and FP ATT?

[Wayward Son]

Luto's ISO is a little meh. a safe place for scum to hide. I'm not going to forget this slot.

I don't see Town in any of FP's posts. I feel that (at this moment) scums are feeling pretty safe. Unless it's BloodBot.

[Wayward Son]

@Everyone, don't make a post without stating your opinion on bloodbot for the record, I will notice if you fail to do this.

I don't want to vote him Today, I've rereread everything around him and I'm still leaning Town, despite my early tinfoil. Even if I'm wrong, there are other slots that need to speak up.

The way you feel about BloodBot is the way I'm starting to feel about Luto. I think I got lucky and caught scum Day 1. On a RVS no less.

I'll be around for a bit and welcome company.

[Wayward Son]

@ The Large Man I can't help but read your posts in Caramon's voice (a fantasy character). It really makes me want to Town read you. I hope I'm right and you help us to victory. Are you staying with your vote on BloodBot? What do you think about Luto? I know their ISO is only 5 posts but look at them.

VOTE: LutoTheController Everything they've said so far sounds scummy.

Just in case I'm right. lol

My list of who I'd vote off is shrinking.

[Wayward Son]

Luto, MC, and Space are where I'm willing to vote right now.

Luto's ISO is my only case against them but read it for yourselves.

MC for lurking.

Space for only leaving a post greeting the game. Yeah it's an ancient scum tell, but Space has 2 posts on Mafiascum so it could apply. Now watch them be a veteran. lol

I'm especially interested in my Town reads opinions of my view, but all are welcome.

[Wayward Son]

Why are you town leaning Wayward? Especially since he disagrees with you on your hardest mafia read.

I don't know anything about your experience level, and I mean this as SE advice (I know I haven't earned it yet) but disagreeing with your Town reads is a thing. I'm interested in the answer though.

[Wayward Son]

The last time I told someone that I thought their tinfoil was flimsier than mine, they ended up with tunnel vision. I don't want to compromise vote on any of those 3 slots.

[Wayward Son]

@ The Large Man Your scum read on FP comes from 72, right? You think BloodBot is scum and FP is bussing him for town cred? I'm scum because FP has a Town lean on me?

This is what I see.

[Wayward Son]

What do you even call this post? "Meh, just read that guy's ISO"

Before this post, your ISO was 5 posts long. Which of those 5 do you feel spews you Town? Can you sum up for me (us) what you think is our best direction?

69 is the most game relevant post you've made so far (in my opinion). 3 other posts are aimed at NorwegianBoyEE but none feel sincere. In 70 you say you Town read NorwegianboyEE, but in 84 you're throwing shade again.

My vote stays, for now.

[Wayward Son]

Interesting? I guess it started with 28 and 29. 30 is what it is. 70 you read NorwegianboyEE as Town for "chatting everyone up". Then 84 reads to me as a post meant to rile NorwegianboyEE up, and it doesn't look like hunting scum.

[Wayward Son]

EBWOP 30 should be 37

[Wayward Son]

Apologies to everyone. In hindsight I should have declared a V/LA. We had a birthday bash that lasted into the wee hours, and by the time I got home all I wanted to see was the insides of my eyelids.

@Wayward Can you explain what about the whole game made you read me as town before you posted 46 because at this point I'm feeling like it could be a pocket attempt, just cashing in on my initial friendliness towards you.

Wishful thinking? I look for Town a lot. Early reads and tinfoil theories (especially Day 1) help jumpstart discussion. I still lean Town on you.

My case on Luto looks solid from my house, what do you not like about it? I don't think asking people to look at a short ISO and give an opinion is forcing them to do homework.

[Wayward Son]

@Waywayrd, why is bloodbot town?

After writing my last post, I went and ISOed him, and I think there's a chance I'm wrong.

Gun to my head, if I had to form a mafia team, I guess Luto is a little suspicious, he's inactive mostly.

Hardly

made a sound or nothing. But I will give him a pass.

*Correction in bold.

Luto asked why BloodBot would give him a pass, but he never responded. Some of their questions and opinions seem very cog-dis. I don't see progression on some reads like I feel there should be, and it feels there's a blowing in the wind going on here. I understand reads change over time, but I'm really confused on BloodBot's reads and how (if) they got there.

Luto I'm not worried about. We can chalk it up to vibes. But I wish he was more active.

I don't understand this post coming when and where it did.

Norw still town. I can related to feeling the need to change to a more detached and unbiased style.

This made me feel we were both agreeing on NorwegianboyEE being town. For the same reason.

@FancyPants What do you find weird about Norw wanting to be detached and unbiased?

This also made me think we were on the same wavelength. After 128 I'm not sure of anything when it comes to BloodBot.

[Wayward Son]

Slightly game related

Spoiler:

I have a headache from hell, my nose won't quit running, and my throat feels like crap. And we don't have any cold medicine in the house atm.

@ furtive Welcome! When there are multiple replacements, do you get to pick which one you want, or does the mod decide who gets which slot?

[Wayward Son]

I won't vote TLM, Bloodbot, or furtive Today.

I don't want to vote Meg or NorwegianboyEE.

I'm willing to vote any of the rest.

Can anyone give me a reason not to vote the guy who said Luto was scummy despite the fact he didn't post yet?

VOTE: Wayward

VOTE: LutoTheController Everything they've said so far sounds scummy.

No mention of my extensive, well thought out tinfoil theory?

[Wayward Son]

@ mod May we have a prod on Space?

[Wayward Son]

I’ll consider changing my vote to Megazumarill for consensus reasons but like i said, they don’t feel partnered with anyone other than Wayward so it seems to me the slightly riskier choice.

I'm going to ISO Meg and me (and assorted rabbit trails) to see if I can see what you think you see. Hopefully I'll answer Bloodbot's question too. But on my last read through, I was(am) leaning them Town.

In my game with Bloodbot, I heavily Town read Greeting from Day 1 all the way up to my NK. I was wrong.

@ NorwegianboyEE What do you mean when you say voting Meg is "slightly riskier"?

I'll be back in a while with an updated opinion.

[Wayward Son]

In 207 and 208 Meg lists me and Bloodbot as a possible scum team.

In posts 225 through 229 I could see these as being a weak WK.

Basically I'm less sure of my Town reads on both Meg and Bloodbot.

In my last game Galron pretty much lurked, got Town read for it (somehow) and managed to be the last scum. Galron isn't a newbie. It might have to wait til Tomorrow, but I think pressure on our less talkative slots is still warranted.

[Wayward Son]

I will only vote Meg if it's to keep from no limming.

@ Meg If you come back please change your vote to Sterling. I feel confident this slot is scum.

Also @ Meg

Spoiler:

Last night I started reading Open 865. I made it to page 20. I know your role but tried not to spoil too much. It sounds like an interesting setup. I'll finish it up tonight.

Just fluff.

I'll be around for an hour or so tonight, and I'll be around an hour or so before deadline. I'm not happy with the lead wagon, but it's better than a no lim.

[Wayward Son]

@ Meg In 209 you have me, Luto and Space as (I'm assuming) nullish. But in 266 you say you think your wagon is mainly Town. Both the Luto and Space slots are voting for you, along with Bloodbot. I respectfully disagree and think at least one scum is voting you already.

To everyone else, if Meg does flip scum, I think there's a very good chance the other scum is already voting there.

[Wayward Son]

Ok that's interesting. I feel like this makes Sterling less likely to be mafia - their posts seem very lost for someone who has two people to ask questions to in day chat.

When you say two people, do you mean a partner and the Mod? I don't think the mods are allowed to give advice to scum, at least I hope not.

Do you know what a dumbtell is? Do you think Sterling has dumbtelled, and if so where?

[Wayward Son]

I really don't know what to do. I'm leaning Town on TLM and furtive the most right now, so I'll follow furtive and make a wagon.

VOTE: MightyCannon

[Wayward Son]

I wouldn't mind faster games. I'd do micros, etc. I like theme games too.

I have accidentally overloaded myself before, thinking I could "handle" all the games. That's why I stick to only one game these days.

[Wayward Son]

My reads weren’t bad at all.

That, and I thought you were a Mason with Bloodbot. In hindsight, I should have NKed Bloodbot.

I saw you as a threat! That's a compliment.